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Yeah his approach seems much more conducive to guys getting a feel for each other. They are moving much quicker and moving at the pace he wants them to play at. Not a lot of standing around. It's of course just a scrimmage but the idea is right. I like what I saw from Willy too. He seems to move very well and he's crafty around the basket.

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Yeah that's what i'm talking about! NYK BASKETBALL.

LOL at J-Holliday's awesome D as Rose pounds dribble prior to his behind the back dribble/drive.

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Jennings looks out of control out there. He's gonna drive people here crazy!

DRose looks good. CLee with a nice block of Jennings and save to create offense the other way.

N'Dour with a nice dunk off a great Noah pocket pass. Noah's passing is gonna be fun.

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Quote from Hornacek on DRose -

Jeff Hornacek says he likes what he's seen from Derrick Rose: "I think he's getting he's legs back. Just watching him last year when we played them, it didn't look like he was as explosive as maybe he is now," the coach said Wednesday. Rose impressed coaches during today's scrimmage.

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Just imagine for a moment, for a second, what this season could be like if Derrick Rose's legs are the healthiest they've been since that crappy day in 2012. If Noah can stay healthy? With his passing and defense? If KP can have a little better shot selection and 3pt shooting and make some more progress? If Melo can be Dad Melo and facilitate and pick his spots to score and not have to carry the full load? If CLee just keeps being CLee aka exactly what we need at SG?

I think it has the potential to be a starting five where all the guys make each other better. I can't wait to see how they fit together.

Man, the potential of this team... it could be a very fun season. I'm usually somewhat optimistic about this team... but I honestly feel like if things break right, they're a second round playoffs team and with the right matchups could be an ECF team.

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crzymdups wrote:Just imagine for a moment, for a second, what this season could be like if Derrick Rose's legs are the healthiest they've been since that crappy day in 2012. If Noah can stay healthy? With his passing and defense? If KP can have a little better shot selection and 3pt shooting and make some more progress? If Melo can be Dad Melo and facilitate and pick his spots to score and not have to carry the full load? If CLee just keeps being CLee aka exactly what we need at SG?
I think it has the potential to be a starting five where all the guys make each other better. I can't wait to see how they fit together.
Man, the potential of this team... it could be a very fun season. I'm usually somewhat optimistic about this team... but I honestly feel like if things break right, they're a second round playoffs team and with the right matchups could be an ECF team.

This. There is a ton of potential with this team.

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crzymdups wrote:Just imagine for a moment, for a second, what this season could be like if Derrick Rose's legs are the healthiest they've been since that crappy day in 2012. If Noah can stay healthy? With his passing and defense? If KP can have a little better shot selection and 3pt shooting and make some more progress? If Melo can be Dad Melo and facilitate and pick his spots to score and not have to carry the full load? If CLee just keeps being CLee aka exactly what we need at SG?
I think it has the potential to be a starting five where all the guys make each other better. I can't wait to see how they fit together.
Man, the potential of this team... it could be a very fun season. I'm usually somewhat optimistic about this team... but I honestly feel like if things break right, they're a second round playoffs team and with the right matchups could be an ECF team.

Careful, the Happy NYK Fan Police will accuse you of Nixluva-itis!

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crzymdups wrote:Just imagine for a moment, for a second, what this season could be like if Derrick Rose's legs are the healthiest they've been since that crappy day in 2012. If Noah can stay healthy? With his passing and defense? If KP can have a little better shot selection and 3pt shooting and make some more progress? If Melo can be Dad Melo and facilitate and pick his spots to score and not have to carry the full load? If CLee just keeps being CLee aka exactly what we need at SG?
I think it has the potential to be a starting five where all the guys make each other better. I can't wait to see how they fit together.
Man, the potential of this team... it could be a very fun season. I'm usually somewhat optimistic about this team... but I honestly feel like if things break right, they're a second round playoffs team and with the right matchups could be an ECF team.

Noah, all NBA first team 2014, NBA All Defensive Player of the Year 2014
KP, Unicorn
DadMelo, Olympic Melo
Lee, solid 2way SG
Rose, former MVP

Solid group with a ton of potential

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crzymdups wrote:Just imagine for a moment, for a second, what this season could be like if Derrick Rose's legs are the healthiest they've been since that crappy day in 2012. If Noah can stay healthy? With his passing and defense? If KP can have a little better shot selection and 3pt shooting and make some more progress? If Melo can be Dad Melo and facilitate and pick his spots to score and not have to carry the full load? If CLee just keeps being CLee aka exactly what we need at SG?
I think it has the potential to be a starting five where all the guys make each other better. I can't wait to see how they fit together.
Man, the potential of this team... it could be a very fun season. I'm usually somewhat optimistic about this team... but I honestly feel like if things break right, they're a second round playoffs team and with the right matchups could be an ECF team.
Noah, all NBA first team 2014, NBA All Defensive Player of the Year 2014
KP, Unicorn
DadMelo, Olympic Melo
Lee, solid 2way SG
Rose, former MVP
Solid group with a ton of potential

Plus Hornacek who was runner up for COY

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crzymdups wrote:Just imagine for a moment, for a second, what this season could be like if Derrick Rose's legs are the healthiest they've been since that crappy day in 2012. If Noah can stay healthy? With his passing and defense? If KP can have a little better shot selection and 3pt shooting and make some more progress? If Melo can be Dad Melo and facilitate and pick his spots to score and not have to carry the full load? If CLee just keeps being CLee aka exactly what we need at SG?
I think it has the potential to be a starting five where all the guys make each other better. I can't wait to see how they fit together.
Man, the potential of this team... it could be a very fun season. I'm usually somewhat optimistic about this team... but I honestly feel like if things break right, they're a second round playoffs team and with the right matchups could be an ECF team.

their predicted record of around 38 to 40 wins is based on the injury factor. without injury they could be a 46-50 win team. with decent chemistry they could make it past the first round. a lot of "ifs" surrounding injury and chemistry though....

knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%

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They are smarter and more talented than any team in the Eastern Conference.

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crzymdups wrote:Just imagine for a moment, for a second, what this season could be like if Derrick Rose's legs are the healthiest they've been since that crappy day in 2012. If Noah can stay healthy? With his passing and defense? If KP can have a little better shot selection and 3pt shooting and make some more progress? If Melo can be Dad Melo and facilitate and pick his spots to score and not have to carry the full load? If CLee just keeps being CLee aka exactly what we need at SG?
I think it has the potential to be a starting five where all the guys make each other better. I can't wait to see how they fit together.
Man, the potential of this team... it could be a very fun season. I'm usually somewhat optimistic about this team... but I honestly feel like if things break right, they're a second round playoffs team and with the right matchups could be an ECF team.
their predicted record of around 38 to 40 wins is based on the injury factor. without injury they could be a 46-50 win team. with decent chemistry they could make it past the first round. a lot of "ifs" surrounding injury and chemistry though....

Just look at the actual ability of these players! That's what we need to focus on. No one will have to overdo it on this team. There's more than enough talent for the bench to play and provide rest for the starters. The chemistry thing will take care of itself. What's helping is that Phil did a great job of putting the parts together. These players games make sense next to each other and in the style that Hornacek wants them to play. It's the best Phil could realistically do. IMO the only real "IF" is health. There aren't really a lot of things to question about this team IMO.

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I like Brandon Jennings intensity. Definitely out of control but we need that. There will be days he will sit and days he's going to look like pistol pete. Rose looks to be coasting. I think that's the most awesome observation. He looks in control and strong. Very scary how both players will effect this team.

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Right away I think we're missing a slasher. We still have time to analyze with this being the first basketball meal of the season....

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crzymdups wrote:Just imagine for a moment, for a second, what this season could be like if Derrick Rose's legs are the healthiest they've been since that crappy day in 2012. If Noah can stay healthy? With his passing and defense? If KP can have a little better shot selection and 3pt shooting and make some more progress? If Melo can be Dad Melo and facilitate and pick his spots to score and not have to carry the full load? If CLee just keeps being CLee aka exactly what we need at SG?
I think it has the potential to be a starting five where all the guys make each other better. I can't wait to see how they fit together.
Man, the potential of this team... it could be a very fun season. I'm usually somewhat optimistic about this team... but I honestly feel like if things break right, they're a second round playoffs team and with the right matchups could be an ECF team.

Huge if but that would definitely be cool. One side benefit of these practices, we may have some more teeth in our transition D

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EnySpree wrote:I like Brandon Jennings intensity. Definitely out of control but we need that. There will be days he will sit and days he's going to look like pistol pete. Rose looks to be coasting. I think that's the most awesome observation. He looks in control and strong. Very scary how both players will effect this team.

First time in several years that Rose has been healthy enough to work out during the off-season. Many may be worried about his knees but they are overlooking the fact his legs were fine last year and were gaining more strength towards the end of the season. Excited to seem him this healthy.

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