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nixluva
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By Maxwell Ogden/FanSided via Daily Knicks There are photos and videos in the original article. |
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Malcolm
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By Maxwell Ogden/FanSided via Daily KnicksOMG -- somebody that finally gets it . . . (!) |
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Malcolm
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GustavBahler wrote:It was just as much about how long the Triangle takes to learn, as it was about its efficacy . . .OMG -- another somebody that finally gets it . . . (!) |
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Malcolm
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nixluva wrote:What I think Hornacek can do is use Triangle PRINCIPLES without having to spend all year working on all the technical stuff that often goes into the system.I'll admit this is CONCEIVABLE. Not likely, in my opinion . . . but conceivable. But you continue to ignore the difference between Triangle Xs and Os . . . and Triangle Culture. There's DEFINITELY no short cut to Triangle Culture. It takes lots of time and effort . . . |
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GustavBahler
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Malcolm wrote:By Maxwell Ogden/FanSided via Daily KnicksOMG -- somebody that finally gets it . . . (!) They ran the Triangle slow because they hadn't played together long enough to run it fast. Its not like you can snap your fingers and run the Triangle at triple time without any experience, not with any consistency. |
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Malcolm
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GustavBahler wrote:(1) They ran the Triangle slow because they hadn't played together long enough to run it fast. Its not like you can snap your fingers and run the Triangle at triple time without any experience, not with any consistency.I completely agree with you about (1) and (2), "of course". But with (3), I don't see that Hornacek is going to magically resolve (1) and (2). I agree (now . . .) that he appears to be a good hire. But the Triangle learning curve is still there. That's why I was so unhappy about losing the experience of Lopez and Williams. Just don't mess with the roster any more . . . and learn to play the Triangle |
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GustavBahler
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Malcolm wrote:GustavBahler wrote:(1) They ran the Triangle slow because they hadn't played together long enough to run it fast. Its not like you can snap your fingers and run the Triangle at triple time without any experience, not with any consistency.I completely agree with you about (1) and (2), "of course". No one is suggesting that Hornacek will magically do anything but Nix (J/K) Im not predicting anything. I can say I like the hire because Hornacek had success right off the bat in a very competitive conference, to say the least. I usually hold the coach responsible for the final record every season, but there was too much going on between players and mgmt for Jeff to be able to get the most out of his team the next season. Beefs between players, coaches, is one thing, between players and mgmt is another. Hornacek also seems to be looking from what Ive read to improve his game as a coach. You would be surprised how many coaches out there dont think that way. No guarantee of success, but I believe it s the right attitude. Its what makes players great, and its what makes coaches great as well IMO. |
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nixluva
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Malcolm wrote:nixluva wrote:What I think Hornacek can do is use Triangle PRINCIPLES without having to spend all year working on all the technical stuff that often goes into the system.I'll admit this is CONCEIVABLE. Not likely, in my opinion . . . but conceivable. BJ Armstrong said it best when he said: “Here is the triangle — I don’t like to waste my time,’’ Armstrong said. “I find it funny. Here’s the staple of a team that wants to win: They defend, they rebound and pass the ball. All of Phil’s teams have those three elements. That’s the triangle." Hornacek has Rambis and Phil to help if necessary but he is going to simplify things and make it easy for this team to come together and be effective. That's what he does. If you simply look at what he's done, he looks to maximize the talent he has and put them in position to succeed. He's not going to just sit there and watch the team struggle with remembering technical things and so I expect that he'll give them an offense they can run and play instinctively. That's Hornacek's gift. He can break things down for players so they actually GET IT. |