It also has some concerns about Melo,s play, now and going FWD.

The best thing about this breakdown is the potential the knicks Will have under JH. This could really be a very successful season

The knicks have made some of the most head scratching moves, turning the franchise into a laughing stock over the last 11 years (with the exception of maybe 2 solid season over that period), but they finally may have met there match in the suns, talk about bone head move after bone headed move

Look at the break down of Channing Frye, and replace him with KP, and you can see all star this season.

You almost wanna say "poor Hornacek"

Bottom line is we should already be on the next level of conversation not just discovering things we talked about in June. Its September... the juices should be flowing leading up to training camp.

GustavBahler wrote:Wont watch anything that has nothing but ads for the first minute. Hornacek had personel problems that had nothing to do with him, that was directed at mgmt, which contributed to the losing. I expect Hornacek to do a better job than the season that got him fired.

As for how they play? Time will tell. I am very positive despite the usual trolls. Its a talented team with upside and parts that fit. Now they have to prove it on the court.

knicks1248 wrote:

fishmike wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Wont watch anything that has nothing but ads for the first minute. Hornacek had personel problems that had nothing to do with him, that was directed at mgmt, which contributed to the losing. I expect Hornacek to do a better job than the season that got him fired.

This... and we know he has already reached out and worked with Melo and other Knicks. This is guy focused on understanding what he has and how best to use it (hears angels).

As for how they play? Time will tell. I am very positive despite the usual trolls. Its a talented team with upside and parts that fit. Now they have to prove it on the court.

This has to be the most balance starting 5 I have ever seen the knick's put together (since the late 80's)

A Top 10 PG

An actual SG who can shoot, and plays D

A Top 5 SF

A Potential Franchise PF who can do just about everything on the floor

A Center who who can pass, score, and defend and has a pretty high IQ

If healthy, this team is right up there with the best of them

Also a quality 6th and 7th man off the bench. We just need some of the bench guys to workout. There's at least some interesting talent on the bench. It's pretty exciting.

1- Who will BALL-HOG the most Melo or Rose
2- Melo and Rose long history of poor defense
3- KP cluelessness to defend inside the paint area
4- KP cluelessness to post-up in the paint area
5- The ball-stoppers who shoot-first instead of passing the ball
6- Who will be our defensive PF when Noah has to defend the perimeter
7- What position does Lance Thomas defend and score on the most, SG or SF
8- Will PF O'Quinn get all his playing-time minute as our center again
9- Will SG Lee play better tandem with Rose or Jennings
10- Will Noah get the chance to call offense and defense plays

Kemet wrote:The Big worries are will coach JH do the same as Fisher/Rambis to the rotation, plus what will coach JH do about certain players style?

1- Who will BALL-HOG the most Melo or Rose
2- Melo and Rose long history of poor defense
3- KP cluelessness to defend inside the paint area
4- KP cluelessness to post-up in the paint area
5- The ball-stoppers who shoot-first instead of passing the ball
6- Who will be our defensive PF when Noah has to defend the perimeter
7- What position does Lance Thomas defend and score on the most, SG or SF
8- Will PF O'Quinn get all his playing-time minute as our center again
9- Will SG Lee play better tandem with Rose or Jennings
10- Will Noah get the chance to call offense and defense plays

I don't foresee a repeat of Fish/Rambo with Hornacek. For one thing he's already expressed a better set of ideas on how he wants to run the team.

The Knicks coach claims not to be concerned they will have too weak a bench because of the way he plans to use his three big guns — Rose, Porzingis and Anthony.

“I’m hoping with the three guys, hopefully have two of those guys on the court,” Hornacek said. “It will take pressure off the bench guys to make an open shot. They’re not going to be a real focus necessarily. That always makes it easier for the guys to be comfortable out there. If you’re trying to sub five guys in as a group, it would be more difficult.”

“Look at our roster, between Carmelo, Kristaps, Derrick, three guys who can put the ball in the hole,” Hornacek said. “We have to have role guys. If they want to stop one of those guys with a double-team, we have a guy who can knock a shot in. That [shooting-guard] spot is important for a guy who can knock down shots, create the space.”

http://nypost.com/2016/07/03/next-up-for-cap-strapped-knicks-sifting-through-backup-pgs/

These statements were made before they solidified the roster. There is more talent now on the bench and I suspect Hornacek will use that talent pretty well.

With regard to your comments about defense, I think there will be enough defensive minded players to make it all come together. Noah will help KP and Lee will help Rose. Thomas and Holiday have very good length and defensive mentality. Melo is not as bad on D as some want to keep believing.

regarding your comments about KP not being able to post up I think you're going to be eating those words this season. He's not expected to spend all day trying to post up but when he does I think he'll be more effective this year.