earthmansurfer wrote:

Welpee wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Welpee wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Here is a list of people with close ties to the Clintons, who were all killed, I mean died mysteriously, I mean met an early end.

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 men killed in Benghazi.

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

Didn't they create a similar game called the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon? Man it's a good sign when Trump supporters have to resort to this!

I'm not a Trump supporter, though I like him more than Hillary.

But more importantly, this is a real list, you can easily find out how many people connected with the Clintons died while with them or working for them.
I'm talking two gunshots to the head suicides. You think cause CNN or MSNBC don't talk about it that it didn't happen?

They tried to play this same game with Obama. Because Obama sat in Rev. Wright's church he's held accountable for everything he said. Because Obama had a fund raiser at Ayer's home he's accountable for his actions from 40 years ago. I have a project for you. Do this same game with Trump, though I know you won't because you're just cutting and pasting something an anti-Clinton person put together. We all know this isn't your own "research." Remember, Trump is alleged to have some mob connections. Lets play the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game with Trump and see where it leads.

And you know you're voting for Trump. Otherwise you wouldn't go to these lengths to search for this list on the internet and cut and paste it here. Get real.

I honestly don't vote. Again, I'm just afraid of a Clinton presidency.

Don't compare this to Obama. It isn't a game. Do a little research on some of those names, it is incredibly suspicious. Vince Foster, being at the top of the list.

holfresh wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Welpee wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Welpee wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:Here is a list of people with close ties to the Clintons, who were all killed, I mean died mysteriously, I mean met an early end.

And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.

Not Included in this list are the 4 men killed in Benghazi.

1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.

2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.

7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.

34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
39 – Major General William Robertson
40 – Col. William Densberger
41 – Col. Robert Kelly
42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
43 – Steve Willis
44 – Robert Williams
45 – Conway LeBleu
46 – Todd McKeehan

Didn't they create a similar game called the 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon? Man it's a good sign when Trump supporters have to resort to this!

I'm not a Trump supporter, though I like him more than Hillary.

But more importantly, this is a real list, you can easily find out how many people connected with the Clintons died while with them or working for them.
I'm talking two gunshots to the head suicides. You think cause CNN or MSNBC don't talk about it that it didn't happen?

They tried to play this same game with Obama. Because Obama sat in Rev. Wright's church he's held accountable for everything he said. Because Obama had a fund raiser at Ayer's home he's accountable for his actions from 40 years ago. I have a project for you. Do this same game with Trump, though I know you won't because you're just cutting and pasting something an anti-Clinton person put together. We all know this isn't your own "research." Remember, Trump is alleged to have some mob connections. Lets play the "Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon" game with Trump and see where it leads.

And you know you're voting for Trump. Otherwise you wouldn't go to these lengths to search for this list on the internet and cut and paste it here. Get real.

I honestly don't vote. Again, I'm just afraid of a Clinton presidency.

Don't compare this to Obama. It isn't a game. Do a little research on some of those names, it is incredibly suspicious. Vince Foster, being at the top of the list.

There was already a Clinton presidency and how did that work out for the country??

Conservative tactic #65: when something bad happens on a democratic president's watch, blame him. If something good happens, either credit the republican president before him for setting it up or the congress (if there was a republican majority).

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earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:This woman is just plain sick.

Anyone can look real bad in brief videos. Trump could be made to look like a cocaine addict with all that sniffling. Hillary actually looked healthier and like she had more stamina than he does at the debate!
As far as sickness goes, I'd be more concerned about trump having narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders than any of this.

No bro, Hillary is sick. Quite a few doctors have made videos as well. She has had seizures and has a known head injury.
People don't have seizure like movements like that. Nor marks on their tongue like that. Nor overreact to baloons in front many people like that.

I have already said, I'm not a Trump supporter, I see both sides of the issue. But you guys can watch these videos and end up sounding like the police during the Rodney King beating. And by that I mean, you try to analyze something that needs to analysis. Plain as day, the woman is sick.

Now, that is just physically. Don't get me started on her actual crimes...

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:This woman is just plain sick.

Anyone can look real bad in brief videos. Trump could be made to look like a cocaine addict with all that sniffling. Hillary actually looked healthier and like she had more stamina than he does at the debate!
As far as sickness goes, I'd be more concerned about trump having narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders than any of this.

No bro, Hillary is sick. Quite a few doctors have made videos as well. She has had seizures and has a known head injury.
People don't have seizure like movements like that. Nor marks on their tongue like that. Nor overreact to baloons in front many people like that.

I have already said, I'm not a Trump supporter, I see both sides of the issue. But you guys can watch these videos and end up sounding like the police during the Rodney King beating. And by that I mean, you try to analyze something that needs to analysis. Plain as day, the woman is sick.

Now, that is just physically. Don't get me started on her actual crimes...

I don't know if she is or not but I'm saying Donald Trump's sickness is more of a threat to our country.

This is not so much a question of their nature, it is rather who they work for.
Trump actually seems to want to turn things around. Hillary is a cog in the wheel of elites. Just look at her friends. Maybe her and Kissinger can one day compare sick notes.
If Trump is president, he is sort of a stumbling block as he is not in the club. At least he doesn't appear to be. But clear as day, Hillary
is. I just think Trump slows down this apparent sick plan we see unfolding around us. Clinton is in on it. And if it isn't a plan we see unfolding, things are worse than I thought, lol.

Welpee wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:This woman is just plain sick.

Anyone can look real bad in brief videos. Trump could be made to look like a cocaine addict with all that sniffling. Hillary actually looked healthier and like she had more stamina than he does at the debate!
As far as sickness goes, I'd be more concerned about trump having narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders than any of this.

No bro, Hillary is sick. Quite a few doctors have made videos as well. She has had seizures and has a known head injury.
People don't have seizure like movements like that. Nor marks on their tongue like that. Nor overreact to baloons in front many people like that.

I have already said, I'm not a Trump supporter, I see both sides of the issue. But you guys can watch these videos and end up sounding like the police during the Rodney King beating. And by that I mean, you try to analyze something that needs to analysis. Plain as day, the woman is sick.

Now, that is just physically. Don't get me started on her actual crimes...

Yeah, and let me guess, the "doctors" are all conservatives, right? Funny how only conservative doctors came to this conclusion. And if you're going to accept that, then I assume you're also accepting Dr. Howard Dean's assertion that Trump is a cocaine abuser, right?

Watch videos of her. No doctor, just your eyes are needed.
The woman is sick, neurologically speaking. Something is wrong with her.
Not sure how anyone can watch some of her scary reactions and thing it is even remotely normal.
The coughing thing isn't a big deal to me, it is the Parkinson like reactions she has shown one more than a few occasions.

earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:This woman is just plain sick.

Anyone can look real bad in brief videos. Trump could be made to look like a cocaine addict with all that sniffling. Hillary actually looked healthier and like she had more stamina than he does at the debate!
As far as sickness goes, I'd be more concerned about trump having narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders than any of this.

No bro, Hillary is sick. Quite a few doctors have made videos as well. She has had seizures and has a known head injury.
People don't have seizure like movements like that. Nor marks on their tongue like that. Nor overreact to baloons in front many people like that.

I have already said, I'm not a Trump supporter, I see both sides of the issue. But you guys can watch these videos and end up sounding like the police during the Rodney King beating. And by that I mean, you try to analyze something that needs to analysis. Plain as day, the woman is sick.

Now, that is just physically. Don't get me started on her actual crimes...

I don't know if she is or not but I'm saying Donald Trump's sickness is more of a threat to our country.

This is not so much a question of their nature, it is rather who they work for.
Trump actually seems to want to turn things around. Hillary is a cog in the wheel of elites. Just look at her friends. Maybe her and Kissinger can one day compare sick notes.
If Trump is president, he is sort of a stumbling block as he is not in the club. At least he doesn't appear to be. But clear as day, Hillary
is. I just think Trump slows down this apparent sick plan we see unfolding around us. Clinton is in on it. And if it isn't a plan we see unfolding, things are worse than I thought, lol.

I hate elites and all that jazz, because they lie, they're corrupt and they screw people over for self interests and to get rich. These are all the things Trump does and will do. He is not the anti elite candidate because he will do all the stuff you hate about elites except he'll be a loud mouth dick too, while throw in racism and misogyny. I don't see how that's an improvement. Mark my words, if Trump wins he'll spend the presidency getting rich.

earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Bonn1997 wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:This woman is just plain sick.

Anyone can look real bad in brief videos. Trump could be made to look like a cocaine addict with all that sniffling. Hillary actually looked healthier and like she had more stamina than he does at the debate!
As far as sickness goes, I'd be more concerned about trump having narcissistic and antisocial personality disorders than any of this.

No bro, Hillary is sick. Quite a few doctors have made videos as well. She has had seizures and has a known head injury.
People don't have seizure like movements like that. Nor marks on their tongue like that. Nor overreact to baloons in front many people like that.

I have already said, I'm not a Trump supporter, I see both sides of the issue. But you guys can watch these videos and end up sounding like the police during the Rodney King beating. And by that I mean, you try to analyze something that needs to analysis. Plain as day, the woman is sick.

Now, that is just physically. Don't get me started on her actual crimes...

I don't know if she is or not but I'm saying Donald Trump's sickness is more of a threat to our country.

This is not so much a question of their nature, it is rather who they work for.
Trump actually seems to want to turn things around. Hillary is a cog in the wheel of elites. Just look at her friends. Maybe her and Kissinger can one day compare sick notes.
If Trump is president, he is sort of a stumbling block as he is not in the club. At least he doesn't appear to be. But clear as day, Hillary
is. I just think Trump slows down this apparent sick plan we see unfolding around us. Clinton is in on it. And if it isn't a plan we see unfolding, things are worse than I thought, lol.

earthmansurfer wrote:

Watch videos of her. No doctor, just your eyes are needed.
The woman is sick, neurologically speaking. Something is wrong with her.
Not sure how anyone can watch some of her scary reactions and thing it is even remotely normal.
The coughing thing isn't a big deal to me, it is the Parkinson like reactions she has shown one more than a few occasions.

I mean this is really lame. I guess we should all ignore what we see in live TV and favor hacked youtube videos..

Again... how about we just judge them by what comes out of their mouths? Or even their history (that can be verified)????

fishmike wrote:

earthmansurfer wrote:

Watch videos of her. No doctor, just your eyes are needed.
The woman is sick, neurologically speaking. Something is wrong with her.
Not sure how anyone can watch some of her scary reactions and thing it is even remotely normal.
The coughing thing isn't a big deal to me, it is the Parkinson like reactions she has shown one more than a few occasions.

Did you watch the debate? The lady was what? 2-3 weeks removed from pneumonia? Did she shiver? Convulse? Show odd behavior? Or was that just the liberal media hacking the signal?

I mean this is really lame. I guess we should all ignore what we see in live TV and favor hacked youtube videos..

Again... how about we just judge them by what comes out of their mouths? Or even their history (that can be verified)????