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earthmansurfer
Posts: 24005 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/26/2005 Member: #858 Germany |
9/29/2016 6:42 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Anyone saw 60 minutes???..The Cold War is on full bore..US B2 bombers making runs to Russia over the last year..Each B2 bomber capable of carrying 40,000 lbs of nuclear weapons..We wanted to send a message after Crimea and Ukraine..Crazy stuff, a bit shocking to be honest..Appearently Putin thinks he can use nuclear weapon on a small ex-society NATO state and we are showing him what's possible..One of our nuclear subs are carrying more nukes than some nuclear states.. Pretty well said. I do see what you mean about Trump and if he is elected I do fear more division at home. In a way, this is my point, I don't understand how anyone can really support either of these people. I can see favoring one, but when I said Holfresh was waiving the pom poms, I meant it, just from reading his posts. Man, we are between a rock and a hard place. And the public gets to hear 3 "debates" to decide... Ideal situation, Hillary can't continue, either health reasons or gets jailed for the email thing, and Bernie is the nominee and wins. Will create other problems but will buy the world time. The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift. Albert Einstein
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
9/29/2016 7:36 AM LAST EDITED: 9/29/2016 7:48 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Anyone saw 60 minutes???..The Cold War is on full bore..US B2 bombers making runs to Russia over the last year..Each B2 bomber capable of carrying 40,000 lbs of nuclear weapons..We wanted to send a message after Crimea and Ukraine..Crazy stuff, a bit shocking to be honest..Appearently Putin thinks he can use nuclear weapon on a small ex-society NATO state and we are showing him what's possible..One of our nuclear subs are carrying more nukes than some nuclear states.. You argument that Hillary is just serving others is nonsense...You have no proof of anything..You rely on obscure websites for your information...Hillary is more qualified to be President than any other candidate running for office today..She has done more to help poor people than any other candidate running for office today..She is more knowledgeable about foreign policy than any other candidate running for office today...He views and that of her husband, has been successful in running this country already..You are supporting a blowhard who brings absolutely nothing to the table in terms of governing..He can barely string a sentence together...The conspiracy right wing has had an irrational hard on for the Clintons for 30+ years and they have been able to prove nothing...Because they have nothing..They are an empty vessel... |
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Nalod
Posts: 68730 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/29/2016 7:55 AM
Pretty straight forward but its written at a higher 5th grade reading level and requires a bit of time commitment.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/?ex_cid=2016-forecast |
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Nalod
Posts: 68730 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/29/2016 7:59 AM
earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:earthmansurfer wrote:holfresh wrote:Anyone saw 60 minutes???..The Cold War is on full bore..US B2 bombers making runs to Russia over the last year..Each B2 bomber capable of carrying 40,000 lbs of nuclear weapons..We wanted to send a message after Crimea and Ukraine..Crazy stuff, a bit shocking to be honest..Appearently Putin thinks he can use nuclear weapon on a small ex-society NATO state and we are showing him what's possible..One of our nuclear subs are carrying more nukes than some nuclear states.. If you don't vote for Hillary, your voting for Trump. Its a tight race and its a two person race. At this moment in time, this is the choice. A vote for Johnson is a vote for Trump. I'd prefer we give Obama another year and start the process again and get it right. But that is a fantasy. Hillary and Trump. |
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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
9/29/2016 9:34 AM
JesseDark wrote:Newsweek is breaking a story tomorrow of Trump doing business with Cuba during the embargo. Wow, thanks for the heads up Jesse... it dropped this morning: Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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H1AND1
Posts: 21747 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 9/9/2013 Member: #5648 |
9/29/2016 11:50 AM
DrAlphaeus wrote:holfresh wrote:Gary Johnson being Gary Johnson...Polling at 9% folks... Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/29/2016 11:56 AM
Nalod wrote:Pretty straight forward but its written at a higher 5th grade reading level and requires a bit of time commitment. fire baaaaad!!!!! |
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TheGame
Posts: 26586 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/15/2006 Member: #1154 USA |
9/29/2016 3:23 PM
BRIGGS wrote:As reported in the Charlotte Observer (but buried at the very bottom of a lengthy post), Scott also has a criminal history in North Carolina and South Carolina, dating back to 1992. A public records search shows Scott was convicted in April 2004 of a misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon charge in Mecklenburg County. Other charges stemming from that date were dismissed: felony assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, and the misdemeanors assault on a child under 12, assault on a female, and communicating threats. I fail to see how past criminal records really matter. Nothing I read said the police had this information, so it is not like they based their decision on it. The only thing that matters is whether the person threatens the officers, which Scott did not do. This is the same non-sense as with Trayvon Martin. I had a co-worker talking about Trayvon got expelled for weed, as if that is some justification for him being killed by Zimmerman. Now everyone sees how much of an unstable person Zimmerman is and how he essentially murdered Trayvon Martin. THe police shot Scott when he did not make any threatening move towards them. That is clear from the video. The other problem I have is these police shootings often occur over minor traffic activities. I mean if the only thing you have on a person is a minor traffic offense, i would think it would be better for the police the leave the person alone rather than shoot them. If you are going to have a country in which people have a right to carry a gun, then you cannot have police just shooting people because they have a gun unless the person actually raises the gun to use it against the police. Trust the Process
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
9/29/2016 3:40 PM LAST EDITED: 9/29/2016 3:41 PM
This is how I want to be arrested after committing mass murder...Dylan was worked up after this and was feeling a little hungry so they took him to Burger King after all the commotion.. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
9/29/2016 4:01 PM
this is going to be beautiful to watch being a long short over the next 2 years. Just watch. Whoever is President it won't matter
RIP Crushalot😞
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smackeddog
Posts: 38386 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/30/2005 Member: #883 |
9/29/2016 4:02 PM
H1AND1 wrote:DrAlphaeus wrote:holfresh wrote:Gary Johnson being Gary Johnson...Polling at 9% folks... Ha ha, what a pair of fools |
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Nalod
Posts: 68730 Alba Posts: 154 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
9/29/2016 5:32 PM
BRIGGS wrote:this is going to be beautiful to watch being a long short over the next 2 years. Just watch. Whoever is President it won't matter Another pump and dump your working today? |
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GustavBahler
Posts: 41138 Alba Posts: 15 Joined: 7/12/2010 Member: #3186 |
9/29/2016 5:51 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Nalod wrote:BRIGGS wrote:Welpee wrote:BRIGGS wrote:As reported in the Charlotte Observer (but buried at the very bottom of a lengthy post), Scott also has a criminal history in North Carolina and South Carolina, dating back to 1992. A public records search shows Scott was convicted in April 2004 of a misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon charge in Mecklenburg County. Other charges stemming from that date were dismissed: felony assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, and the misdemeanors assault on a child under 12, assault on a female, and communicating threats.So he deserved to be killed? Lived for 3 years in Trayvon Martin's neighborhood, left before it happened. There were tons of of crazy ass "Zimmermans" of all types back then. Its fla unfortunately, its amazing how many people there just look for trouble. |
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Welpee
Posts: 23162 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/22/2016 Member: #6239 |
9/29/2016 7:54 PM
BRIGGS wrote:So he deserved to be killed?Welpee wrote:BRIGGS wrote:As reported in the Charlotte Observer (but buried at the very bottom of a lengthy post), Scott also has a criminal history in North Carolina and South Carolina, dating back to 1992. A public records search shows Scott was convicted in April 2004 of a misdemeanor assault with a deadly weapon charge in Mecklenburg County. Other charges stemming from that date were dismissed: felony assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, and the misdemeanors assault on a child under 12, assault on a female, and communicating threats.So he deserved to be killed? |
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
9/29/2016 8:15 PM
Fear, Anxiety, and Depression in the Age of Trump
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2016/09/trump_induced_anxiety_is_a_real_thing.html  Carol Wachs, a psychologist in private practice in Manhattan, recently started seeing an old patient again. The client had first sought treatment for anxiety following the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11. Now she was worried about a new menace: Donald Trump and his zealous supporters. The patient, Wachs says, comes from a family of Holocaust survivors, and “it feels to her like all the stories she heard from her grandparents about how things feel normal and then all of the sudden, oh my God, here we are.”
With the presidential race staggering into its final stretch, the once inconceivable prospect of a Trump victory is becoming, if not likely, then definitely possible. (As of this writing, FiveThirtyEight gives Trump a 42.4 percent chance of prevailing, though that might change by the time you read this.) As that reality sets in, a hallucinatory sense of slow-motion doom is descending on many liberals. (Though not only on liberals.) Victims of Trump-induced anxiety describe nightmares, insomnia, digestive problems, and headaches. Therapists find themselves helping their patients through a process that feels less like an election than a national nervous breakdown. “People are scared,” says Fiachra “Figs” O’Sullivan, a psychotherapist in San Francisco who specializes in relationships. “People are distressed, and it’s affecting their level of presence in their relationships with their significant others.” Dorie Chamberlain, a 54-year-old stay-at-home mom in Los Angeles who says she talks about Trump every time she goes to therapy, says watching the election “is like living in a house where everybody screams.” There is, of course, no way to quantify the scope of mental anguish caused by Trump’s campaign; these stories are entirely anecdotal. There are, however, a lot of anecdotes, as I discovered when I started speaking to both therapists and panicking voters. I’ve covered four elections as a journalist, but this is the first one to regularly poison my dreams; at least once a week I wake up in the middle of the night in clammy, agitated horror. I was curious if other people were suffering in similar ways, so I reached out to a therapist I know. She queried two email lists of mostly New York–based colleagues, asking them to contact me if they’d seen Trump-related distress in their practices. Responses quickly started pouring in; soon I had almost a dozen. Some of the therapists told me they are talking their patients through their Trump terror while trying not to succumb to it themselves. “The therapists that I know are pretty overwhelmed by managing their personal feelings, which we have to do and we’re doing, but it’s a lot,” says psychologist Heather Silvestri. She belongs to a meditation group for therapists and says the election comes up in every session. Of course, not everyone beset by Trumpian maladies is in therapy. About two weeks ago, Liz, a 45-year-old photographer in suburban Minneapolis who asked to be identified only by her first name, started noticing alarming symptoms: headaches, jitteriness, tightness in her chest, sometimes even difficulty breathing. She went to her physician, who said it sounded like she was suffering from anxiety. “I thought, huh, I don’t even have a stressful job. I don’t know what that can be,” she says. Then she went home and turned on the news, “and all the sudden the symptoms came back with a fury.” She realized that thinking about Trump was affecting her health. Liz hasn’t agreed with past Republican candidates, she says, but she didn’t think they would “ruin my country, or cause civil war, or cause World War III.” But her fear also stems from her incredulous realization that so many of her fellow citizens inhabit a reality that barely intersects with her own. “I can no longer see where they’re coming from,” she says of Trump supporters. “I feel like I’m in The Twilight Zone.” Even if Clinton wins, she’s terrified of Trump’s followers responding with violence. “We’re getting closer and closer and closer to something that seems so insane,” she says, “The thought of him winning, or even the thought of her winning and parts of the country imploding in chaos as a result—it all just seems like a nightmare.” Some therapists talk their patients through their Trump terror while trying not to succumb to it themselves. The anxiety is encroaching on her relationships, Liz says. Sometimes she’ll delay putting her 9-year-old daughter to bed because she’s so caught up in the news. Socially, she can’t always focus. “I’m strained in my conversation because of something I may have just heard” about the campaign, she says. She’s making an effort to cut back on her news consumption and is thinking of taking up meditation. “There’s a true need here to figure out ways to cope, because as the next 50 days count down, I don’t anticipate it’s going to get any better,” she says. “Probably far worse.” But meditation, for all its benefits, is not a panacea. Sharon Salzberg, the renowned Buddhist meditation instructor, was teaching this past Sept. 11. “During the lunch break I checked my email or Twitter or something, and it just said, ‘Hillary Clinton fainted,’ ” she tells me. “And I almost fainted. Oh my God!” Salzberg certainly finds profound comfort and stability in her meditation training, but she’s on edge like other liberals. “When I see my mind starting to trip out, I remind myself, just come back, deal with what’s now,” she says. Fear of a Trump presidency is a normal human reaction, of course, not a clinical condition. A vertiginous sense of unreality is a symptom of an anxiety attack, but it is also a symptom of being a thinking person in America in the fall of 2016. People with anxiety disorders tend to imagine that catastrophe is imminent, but in this case they may not be wrong. “You can’t pathologize this anxiety,” says Andrea Gitter, a New York psychotherapist and member of the faculty at the Women’s Therapy Centre Institute. “People who are marginalized to begin with know that they are targets because of the hatred that’s been unearthed.” Gitter says the election comes up daily in her practice. Still, therapists have to help their clients manage their feelings and live their lives, however astonishing it might seem that normal life is going on while the republic teeters on the edge of kakistocracy. Kimberly Grocher, a psychotherapist in New York, says she talks to patients about their Trump-induced political distress several times a week. “It’s really pervasive, and it’s really come into the treatment room,” she says. “Usually it’s combined with other anxiety triggers that they may be having, and it can cause sleeplessness, restlessness, feeling powerless. It can lead to feelings of depression.” Grocher is black, and many of her clients are people of color. For several of them, she says, anxiety about the election is linked to worries about the physical safety of their communities. They wonder what the outcome will mean for police violence; Trump has said urban police should be “much tougher” and recently called for the nationwide adoption of stop-and-frisk. “For the minorities who I see, and even the Caucasians who I see, that issue has been very closely tied to the election,” Grocher says. “Usually the two come up in conversation together. It’s about, What’s going to happen in my community if this person is in office?” Sometimes the election’s psychic fallout takes less obvious forms. Silvestri, for example, has noticed a curious phenomenon among some of the millennial women in her practice: The rise of Trump has made them wonder how much they can reasonably expect from romantic relationships. Trump embodies some of the worst aspects of their ex-boyfriends, men who were “self-aggrandizing, self-important, not amenable to collaboration, cooperation, etc.,” Silvestri says. “When you break up with someone you need space, and they’re feeling like they can’t get space because their ex is sort of incarnate all over the news.” Instead of feeling excited about the possibility of the first female president, some women feel ground down. It’s not just that Trump reminds them of their exes. It’s that Trump’s success seems to validate the men’s behavior. “They had gotten themselves to a place of, This is not what I deserve, I deserve better, I can do better,” Silvestri says. But watching dutiful, responsible Clinton struggle to best Trump, “people are really backtracking and saying, ‘I made this move to be more empowered and be who I am based on my values, but now I see my ex writ large on the national stage, and everyone’s following him,’ ” Silvestri says. They start thinking that, for a woman, maybe being beautiful really is more important than being smart, assertive, and authentic. “What happens in microcosm on a Friday night,” she says, is now playing out on the national stage. “The men have the power, and [the women] are trying to be a better version of themselves, but it doesn’t play well.” Part of what Silvestri is describing is a sad and fretful confusion over which traits our culture admires in women and which it disdains. For older women who identify with Clinton, there is less confusion and more anguished realization of the degree to which aging women are held in contempt. “For a year, I’ve been hearing in very hushed tones all this sadness,” Wachs says. “Women who thought that women have more stature in the world hear how young men and older men are talking about this female candidate—the misogyny, the focus on her appearance, the focus on the cool factor.” Instead of feeling excited about the possibility of the first female president, these women feel ground down. “Some people are terrified of Trump because he’s a fascist demagogue, and some people are just incredibly demoralized that Bernie, who we all love, is your cool, funky, uncle, and Hillary is Nurse Ratched,” Wachs says. This demoralization could help explain why more people are not channeling their anti-Trump anxiety into action to prevent his election. “I think people are paralyzed by it,” Silvestri says. “I see it in myself, too. In Obama’s previous campaigns, I was out there campaigning in Pennsylvania from July or August on. I have not ventured to Pennsylvania yet. I’m too overwhelmed. Nor have any of my friends mentioned anything so far in terms of actually being out there, involved.” Silvestri can’t quite put her finger on what’s kept her aloof from the campaign. “It’s hard to be passionate about her, and I feel bad saying that, but I don’t feel passionate about her,” she says. “How much of that is endemic sexism? I don’t know.” Naturally, a Clinton critic would attribute the lack of passion to Clinton’s weaknesses as a candidate. That’s surely some of it. But Wachs sees deeper, more elemental drives at work. She notes that for some people, fear of Trump translates into fury at Clinton. “There’s a lot of blame on Hillary, the way you would blame your mother for something going wrong in the world,” Wachs says. “People blame Hillary for not being a better candidate. How can it be that he’s able to be a good candidate?” Perhaps it’s inevitable that therapists would trace all this anxiety back to people’s relationships with their parents. But one needn’t be a psychoanalyst to appreciate the way the election can serve as a fun house mirror of old family trauma. “There’s overall a preoccupation with parental failure,” Michael Mance, a clinical psychologist in New York, says of his patients. “One might hypothesize that Trump represents a particular kind of very difficult father—an untrustworthy, persecutory, and frightening father—and Hillary represents a kind of toxic, unloving, and secretive mother.” There’s a sense, he says, that “somebody’s going to fail us. I think that presents people with a lot of discomfort, which is hard to manage.” There’s no authority that can protect us from the calamity on the horizon. It’s like a child’s bad dream. It’s also our reality. |
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
9/29/2016 10:02 PM
Trump foundation lacks certification to solicit donations..
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