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DrAlphaeus
Posts: 23751 Alba Posts: 10 Joined: 12/19/2007 Member: #1781 |
9/2/2016 10:41 PM
Paris907 wrote:I am a Constitutional Conservative which is probably counter intuitive to most UWS Knicks Fans. I left the West Side long ago. Funny how Donald Trump wasn't a racist and so much more despite having a business all over NYC and Globally. I'm not a DT fan yet there are a number of his positions that I agree with. I don't think his thr madman he's portrayed. I think that those who believe that Obama aka Hillarys positions have favored Blacks are simply wrong. The unemployment rate among African Amerixan youth is dismal and beyond logic. It's nearly purposeful. When you consider that food stamps have had a 58 % increase under Obama and that the Clintons have amassed $230 million since parting the White House, there is more than a whiff of mendaxity in the air. The Clinton Foundation screwed Haitians among so many others. On moral grounds I cannot bring myself to vote for her. Thanks for the perspective. Do you have a source for the 58% increase in food stamps you cite? Baba Booey 2016 — "It's Silly Season"
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Papabear
Posts: 24363 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 3/31/2007 Member: #1414 |
9/2/2016 10:45 PM
Paris907 wrote:I am a Constitutional Conservative which is probably counter intuitive to most UWS Knicks Fans. I left the West Side long ago. Funny how Donald Trump wasn't a racist and so much more despite having a business all over NYC and Globally. I'm not a DT fan yet there are a number of his positions that I agree with. I don't think his thr madman he's portrayed. I think that those who believe that Obama aka Hillarys positions have favored Blacks are simply wrong. The unemployment rate among African Amerixan youth is dismal and beyond logic. It's nearly purposeful. When you consider that food stamps have had a 58 % increase under Obama and that the Clintons have amassed $230 million since parting the White House, there is more than a whiff of mendaxity in the air. The Clinton Foundation screwed Haitians among so many others. On moral grounds I cannot bring myself to vote for her. Papabear Says Yes thats right! This conversation dragged me in. As far as Trump is concern here is how I judge him. 1. The first Black President Trump say he is not an American and not born in the United States and it was proven that he was and Trump wont even apologize. 2. Take a look at all the people around him. (his advisors) All having race problems. 3. Look at his base and most of them are red necks. Klans man Duke support him and he wont dis-avow them. 4. Why did it take so long for him to come to the African community? Papabear
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blkexec
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9/2/2016 10:50 PM
http://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/opinion/2016/04/08/similarities-donald-trump-hitler-truly-striking/82806958/
Is Donald Trump the modern-day Adolf Hitler? It may seem like a stretch to compare the Republican presidential front-runner to the most evil person of the 20th century, but if you really think about it, it’s not really that far a stretch. Sure, Trump hasn’t really done anything truly evil yet. He hasn’t implemented another Holocaust or plunged us into a world war. Right now, he’s just a racist, xenophobic loudmouth. But if you were to stop and really look at the methods used by Hitler to gain power and the methods currently being used by Trump, you would see that they’re not all that different. Consider: •Both men have racism at the core of their ideology: For Hitler, it was the Jews. For Trump, it is Mexicans and Muslims. Hitler blamed the Jews for every ill that plagued Germany following World War I. Similarly, Trump has demonized Mexicans, calling them “rapists and murderers.” He has called for a ban on Muslims coming to the U.S. and proposed the creation of a Muslim registry. Hitler required all Jews to wear a Star of David. How is the proposed registry any different? •Both Hitler and Trump promised to make their countries “great again:” Now, it’s true there are some stark differences between post-World War I Germany and modern America. Our economy isn’t in shambles, for one thing, and our currency isn’t worthless, for another. But Hitler played off the anger of his electorate. He took advantage of the feeling among Germans that Germany had become weak and had lost the world’s respect. Trump is doing the same thing. And like Hitler, he has positioned himself as the “savior,” the only person capable of restoring his country to its former glory. •Both men believe in torture: The entire world knows about the atrocities committed by Hitler and the Nazis. But Trump has also said he supports the use of water boarding and other forms of torture, and has promised to bring them back if elected “because it works.” Enough said. •Hitler couldn’t stand criticism or any opposing voices. Neither can Trump: To deal with this problem, Hitler had Joseph Goebbels and his propaganda ministry, which controlled every bit of information fed to the German people. For his part, Trump has said that if he gets elected, he will seek to rewrite this nation’s libel laws, to make it easier for politicians to sue the media. This goes against decades of Supreme Court precedent, which has sought to protect the media. It also insults both the spirit and intent of the First Amendment, which guarantees a free press. A free and healthy press is essential to a thriving democracy, and there can be only one purpose for Trump’s promise to rewrite libel laws: to intimidate the media and silence opposition. That, more than any other, is the mark of a dictator. •Hitler had his soldiers swear an oath of loyalty to him. Trump is doing the same thing: Recent video has shown Trump asking his supporters to swear to turn out and vote for him. Granted, it’s not exactly the same thing as having soldiers swear undying loyalty to the point of death, but given everything else we’ve seen from Trump, it’s still a disturbing picture. Donald Trump is an egomaniacal windbag, a man with no moral center or core beliefs of his own. While it may seem a stretch to compare him to Hitler – especially before we see what he would do as president – I believe it would be foolish not to take note of the striking, and very real, similarities between the two men. Of course, we can continue to ignore what’s right in front of us, but we do so at our own peril. Peter Watson lives in Shreveport. Born in Brooklyn, Raised in Queens, Lives in Maryland.
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WaltLongmire
Posts: 27623 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 6/28/2014 Member: #5843 |
9/2/2016 11:03 PM
holfresh wrote:Yawn.... You and I have argued a lot on BB...no arguing on this. You look at who he just hired as assistant campaign manager- Bosse, and along with Ailes and Bannon you now have at the top of your campaign the most thuggish group of advisors ever assembled, and Conway, a woman who stuck by a politician who said women could shut down their bodies and not get pregnant after a rape. And Briggs...trying to make any kind of case for Trump is like you making a case for Hasheem Thabeet as a player...the fundamentals are not there, and unless moderators allow Trump to be the bully he was in the GOP primaries, or he has a hidden earpiece with Ailes feeding him answers, he will be as unsuccessful in a debate as Thabeet was on the court. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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reub
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9/2/2016 11:14 PM LAST EDITED: 9/2/2016 11:16 PM
The FBI dumped Hillary's email investigation documents today, on the Friday before Labor Day weekend, so we now know that they're in the tank for her. They did this to cause the least amount of damage to her. In that document dump it was revealed that she claimed she couldn't remember 26 times during her FBI investigation (she's done the same exact thing in the past). She also, the documents show, clicked on a phishing scam and answered it, exposing her emails, thousands of which were government related and many of which were classified, to hackers. It also came out that she had 13 devices that she used to access her emails, most or all of which have been "lost" or destroyed, conveniently shielding any further evidence about whether or not she was hacked and what exactly she was really up to.
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
9/2/2016 11:26 PM
DrAlphaeus wrote:Paris907 wrote:I am a Constitutional Conservative which is probably counter intuitive to most UWS Knicks Fans. I left the West Side long ago. Funny how Donald Trump wasn't a racist and so much more despite having a business all over NYC and Globally. I'm not a DT fan yet there are a number of his positions that I agree with. I don't think his thr madman he's portrayed. I think that those who believe that Obama aka Hillarys positions have favored Blacks are simply wrong. The unemployment rate among African Amerixan youth is dismal and beyond logic. It's nearly purposeful. When you consider that food stamps have had a 58 % increase under Obama and that the Clintons have amassed $230 million since parting the White House, there is more than a whiff of mendaxity in the air. The Clinton Foundation screwed Haitians among so many others. On moral grounds I cannot bring myself to vote for her. Posts like Paris907 are why I take the historical perspective in these arguments. These guys act like time started when Obama got elected. They forget all the damage done by the F'n Republicans BEFORE Obama came in and all the obstruction after Obama was elected. The Republicans totally put their foot on the brakes while Obama was pushing the car up hill. They admitted that they NEVER intended to work with Obama to help improve the country and that is why things never fully took off with the economy. Under every other president following a recession there was infrastructure spending and increased government employment to boost the economy. The Republicans blocked that under Obama in order to cause disatisfaction with the American Public so they could win elections. The Republicans wanted total gridlock so the public would be angry and no longer trusting government or politicians. These Republcans don't believe in government so they seek to throw a monkey wrench in the machine at every opportunity. They do this even to the detriment of their own constituents. For example in the South they refused money for a High Speed Rail from Atlanta to Florida. Very much needed and would create tons of jobs and future commerce. Also refused Medicaid Expansion even when local Hospitals complained and eventually went out of business across the South. Even local Republican Mayors were begging for help to keep these Hospitals. Total BS! |
holfresh
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9/2/2016 11:30 PM LAST EDITED: 9/2/2016 11:43 PM
reub wrote:The FBI dumped Hillary's email investigation documents today, on the Friday before Labor Day weekend, so we now know that they're in the tank for her. They did this to cause the least amount of damage to her. In that document dump it was revealed that she claimed she couldn't remember 26 times during her FBI investigation (she's done the same exact thing in the past). She also, the documents show, clicked on a phishing scam and answered it, exposing her emails, thousands of which were government related and many of which were classified, to hackers. It also came out that she had 13 devices that she used to access her emails, most or all of which have been "lost" or destroyed, conveniently shielding any further evidence about whether or not she was hacked and what exactly she was really up to. What the republican head of the FBI is doing is unprecedented..If you listen to the news, you will hear the newscaster say and "In a surprise more email related releases from the FBI.." I expect this slow methodical email related release will continue until the election..I think the head of the FBI is done if Hillary gets in there and he knows it.. |
nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
9/2/2016 11:41 PM
holfresh wrote:reub wrote:The FBI dumped Hillary's email investigation documents today, on the Friday before Labor Day weekend, so we now know that they're in the tank for her. They did this to cause the least amount of damage to her. In that document dump it was revealed that she claimed she couldn't remember 26 times during her FBI investigation (she's done the same exact thing in the past). She also, the documents show, clicked on a phishing scam and answered it, exposing her emails, thousands of which were government related and many of which were classified, to hackers. It also came out that she had 13 devices that she used to access her emails, most or all of which have been "lost" or destroyed, conveniently shielding any further evidence about whether or not she was hacked and what exactly she was really up to. Plus just to clarify that there have been MANY attacks against Americans abroad over the decades but Democrats never used them to go on witch hunts against Republican Administrations. This Benghazi and then Emails thing went on longer than Watergate! The 911 Commission was shorter and Bipartisan. No Democrat witch hunt in Congress. |
Paris907
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9/2/2016 11:47 PM
NixLuva I suspected was a reference to Richard Nixon. Thank you for your clarificAtion. I appreciate that the country is sharply divided between red and blue states but Moreso between urban lib enclaves and those beyond the major cities. Yet what many if not most Libs like Nix forget is that nearly 150 million people disagree with him. I no longer reside in the northeast. The South, the Midwest, parts of the west are red states with values far different than those in Boston, Phili, Baltimore, Chicago and New York. As far as Mr Holfesh is L concerned, Ms C sis not orchestrate, but watch Dniah film. Mrs Clinton was blatantly negligent and lied to the parents of those killed. The broadcasted cause was a video. That was a lie to all of us. If anyone other than Mrs Clinton was involved in this E mail scandal, they'd be indicted. Don't go further than Gen Petraeus. Yoube all short term memory lapse. Thats a Dem Brain freeze. Yet I hardly anticipate that anyone will alter their opinion. In fact these matters are deep set and emotional. They can rarely be altered. Mine was howrver altered I grew up a lib and switched in my Late 20s.
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
9/2/2016 11:48 PM LAST EDITED: 9/2/2016 11:56 PM
nixluva wrote:holfresh wrote:reub wrote:The FBI dumped Hillary's email investigation documents today, on the Friday before Labor Day weekend, so we now know that they're in the tank for her. They did this to cause the least amount of damage to her. In that document dump it was revealed that she claimed she couldn't remember 26 times during her FBI investigation (she's done the same exact thing in the past). She also, the documents show, clicked on a phishing scam and answered it, exposing her emails, thousands of which were government related and many of which were classified, to hackers. It also came out that she had 13 devices that she used to access her emails, most or all of which have been "lost" or destroyed, conveniently shielding any further evidence about whether or not she was hacked and what exactly she was really up to. The 1983 barracks bombing Lebanon killing 241 Americans..Reagan was the President at the time..Imagine if that occurred on Obama and Hillary's watch...Who was the Secretary of State at the time, James Baker??.. |
holfresh
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9/2/2016 11:52 PM LAST EDITED: 9/3/2016 12:01 AM
Paris907 wrote:NixLuva I suspected was a reference to Richard Nixon. Thank you for your clarificAtion. I appreciate that the country is sharply divided between red and blue states but Moreso between urban lib enclaves and those beyond the major cities. Yet what many if not most Libs like Nix forget is that nearly 150 million people disagree with him. I no longer reside in the northeast. The South, the Midwest, parts of the west are red states with values far different than those in Boston, Phili, Baltimore, Chicago and New York. As far as Mr Holfesh is L concerned, Ms C sis not orchestrate, but watch Dniah film. Mrs Clinton was blatantly negligent and lied to the parents of those killed. The broadcasted cause was a video. That was a lie to all of us. If anyone other than Mrs Clinton was involved in this E mail scandal, they'd be indicted. Don't go further than Gen Petraeus. Yoube all short term memory lapse. Thats a Dem Brain freeze. Yet I hardly anticipate that anyone will alter their opinion. In fact these matters are deep set and emotional. They can rarely be altered. Mine was howrver altered I grew up a lib and switched in my Late 20s. Petraeus was intentionally passing classified information to a civilian, his lover...That is against the law in case you forgot..Republicans are worried about Hillary's lie..How about Reagns's and Bush's lie about trading arms for hostages during Iran/Contra hearings??..Can we talk about which lies merit jail time?? |
Paris907
Posts: 21146 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/4/2015 Member: #6099 USA |
9/2/2016 11:52 PM
NixLuva I suspected was a reference to Richard Nixon. Thank you for your clarificAtion. I appreciate that the country is sharply divided between red and blue states but Moreso between urban lib enclaves and those beyond the major cities. Yet what many if not most Libs like Nix forget is that nearly 150 million people disagree with him. I no longer reside in the northeast. The South, the Midwest, parts of the west are red states with values far different than those in Boston, Phili, Baltimore, Chicago and New York. As far as Mr Holfesh is L concerned, Ms C sis not orchestrate, but watch Dniah film. Mrs Clinton was blatantly negligent and lied to the parents of those killed. The broadcasted cause was a video. That was a lie to all of us. If anyone other than Mrs Clinton was involved in this E mail scandal, they'd be indicted. Don't go further than Gen Petraeus. Yoube all short term memory lapse. Thats a Dem Brain freeze. Yet I hardly anticipate that anyone will alter their opinion. In fact these matters are deep set and emotional. They can rarely be altered. Mine was howrver altered I grew up a lib and switched in my Late 20s.
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Paris907
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9/3/2016 12:01 AM
Nix: one other thought for your consideration. Obama never reached Congress. He had both houses and spent more than all prior Presidents. He leaves with a 20 trillion deficit, a anemic economy (1.1% growth)and Obamacare cratering. This is hardly legacy. He had Pelosi and Dirty Harry or did you conveniently forget that. As a first Black President, history will undoubtedly be forgiving and providing him ans rosy legacy but the facts are the facts. The inner cities have more violence than since the 60s, foreign policy is at an unprecedented low (thanks to Obama and Kerry and Clinton), nearly 100 hundred Amerixans are unemployed and the deep desire for $15 wage is a formula for more unemployment - that Econ 101. He shot down the keystone pipeline. Congress Deferred its power of the purse, and Obama took the low road with a "pen and a phone". How easy the left forgets the facts. They are indeed stubborn.
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holfresh
Posts: 38679 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/14/2006 Member: #1081 |
9/3/2016 12:05 AM LAST EDITED: 9/3/2016 12:11 AM
Paris907 wrote:Nix: one other thought for your consideration. Obama never reached Congress. He had both houses and spent more than all prior Presidents. He leaves with a 20 trillion deficit, a anemic economy (1.1% growth)and Obamacare cratering. This is hardly legacy. He had Pelosi and Dirty Harry or did you conveniently forget that. As a first Black President, history will undoubtedly be forgiving and providing him ans rosy legacy but the facts are the facts. The inner cities have more violence than since the 60s, foreign policy is at an unprecedented low (thanks to Obama and Kerry and Clinton), nearly 100 hundred Amerixans are unemployed and the deep desire for $15 wage is a formula for more unemployment - that Econ 101. He shot down the keystone pipeline. Congress Deferred its power of the purse, and Obama took the low road with a "pen and a phone". How easy the left forgets the facts. They are indeed stubborn. One fact in that paragraph, Keystone pipeline...Reagan, Bush 1 and 2 spent more money than Obama..Fact..The recession was the cause of the massive deficit..Bush 2 met a surplus before leaving an 11 trillion dollar debt bill...I'm tired doing fact check for you guys, look it up yourselves..No one spent more than Reagan..He was a prolific spender but "conservatives" loves him, go figure.. |
matt
Posts: 22259 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 11/5/2003 Member: #487 USA |
9/3/2016 12:31 AM
Admittedly, I joined this thread late and have not read a single post. But she is straight up hiding her issues while letting all the attention fall on trump sabotaging himself.
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