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Knickoftime
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8/25/2016  5:49 PM
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Knickoftime wrote:
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Understand your dilemma and you sound reasonable, but you or I are not entitled to games. Theft is theft. And if you use a service that pirates games for what you consider your reasonable needs, it encourages more theft.

There is no justification for stealing.

I also suspect people (thought perhaps not you) versed in use bit torrent sites are not limiting themselves to content solely based on criteria such as yours.

calm down man- the people watching technically aren't stealing - the people who own and distribute the torrents sites whilst making money would be the ones liable so think about that before you start calling people thieves. im sorry i dont have enough money to buy league pass every year and I'm sorry i live in London that do not have any access to NBA apart from online

You don't justify it by saying you got it from someone else you stole it. If someone steals a Xbox from someone else's house and sells it to you and you know he stole it, you're arguing that's okay then?

And "I don't have enough money" is NOT a justification for theft. If you can't afford something you go without something, just like everyone else.

If you can't afford a car, stealing one from a dealer lot that has hundreds just sitting around is cool?

thats cool man - you got your theory and I got mine. theres no point of continuing this discussion. good luck in trying to stop the online 'stealing'

Your "theory" is theft is okay and my theory is that is it not.

This has been agreed upon from the star. I was just curious how you justified it.

Apparently it's simply because you want something so stealing it is okay.

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8/25/2016  5:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 8/25/2016  5:57 PM
thats cool man - you got your theory and I got mine. theres no point of continuing this discussion. good luck in trying to stop the online 'stealing'


Your "theory" is theft is okay and my theory is that is it not.

This has been agreed upon from the star. I was just curious how you justified it.

Apparently it's simply because you want something so stealing it is okay.


hey watch out make sure you lock your door tonight as i might come and steal your phone and computer so i can watch legal NBA lol

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8/25/2016  5:59 PM
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smackeddog wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:So stealing broadcasts is cool, then?

Quick teacher! Someone is depriving billionnares of money!

So theft if okay, so long as it's from the right person?

If I'm walking by the estate of a billionaire, I can just help myself to whatever I can find on their grounds?

I agree with you. We're nothing without our morals.

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8/25/2016  6:14 PM
If I steal your bicycle, you no longer have it. If I download a video someone else is sharing, I have it, they have it, others have it. Not "stealing". If you want to argue it's wrong, fine, but stealing is not the right word.
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8/25/2016  6:45 PM
nychamp wrote:If I steal your bicycle, you no longer have it. If I download a video someone else is sharing, I have it, they have it, others have it. Not "stealing". If you want to argue it's wrong, fine, but stealing is not the right word.

excellent point there!!! my dilemma a few days ago was that I couldnt find the Olympics final game to watch since i missed the original broadcasting. the only option is to download it from a torrent- how else would I be able to watch it???? theres literally no other sources here in London

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8/25/2016  9:42 PM
Pavvy wrote:
nychamp wrote:If I steal your bicycle, you no longer have it. If I download a video someone else is sharing, I have it, they have it, others have it. Not "stealing". If you want to argue it's wrong, fine, but stealing is not the right word.

excellent point there!!! my dilemma a few days ago was that I couldnt find the Olympics final game to watch since i missed the original broadcasting. the only option is to download it from a torrent- how else would I be able to watch it???? theres literally no other sources here in London

The answer is you don't.

You can't have everything that you want.

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8/25/2016  9:54 PM
nychamp wrote:If I steal your bicycle, you no longer have it. If I download a video someone else is sharing, I have it, they have it, others have it. Not "stealing". If you want to argue it's wrong, fine, but stealing is not the right word.

Intellectual property theft is considered stealing under any legal or common definition.

The broadcasts we're talking about are produced and broadcast for commercial purposes. It is the reason why you hear the ubiquitous disclaimer about 'unauthorized use is strictly prohibited' during every sports broadcast.

The sites we're referring to do not pay for the rights like the other commercial broadcasters do.

Intellectual property like books, movies, music, games, despite not being physical objects like a bicycle, are recognized by the law as property, no different than a bike, a loaf of bread or a $10 dollar bill.

That fact it can be easily reproduced is not recognized by the law as disqualifying it as being property.

Possessing property without permission IS stealing, and nobody is unclear about this. It is why there are no above-board, commercial sites providing this service.

It is wrong.

It is stealing.

Knowingly doing it and justifying it is really weak.

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8/26/2016  3:29 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
nychamp wrote:If I steal your bicycle, you no longer have it. If I download a video someone else is sharing, I have it, they have it, others have it. Not "stealing". If you want to argue it's wrong, fine, but stealing is not the right word.

Intellectual property theft is considered stealing under any legal or common definition.

The broadcasts we're talking about are produced and broadcast for commercial purposes. It is the reason why you hear the ubiquitous disclaimer about 'unauthorized use is strictly prohibited' during every sports broadcast.

The sites we're referring to do not pay for the rights like the other commercial broadcasters do.

Intellectual property like books, movies, music, games, despite not being physical objects like a bicycle, are recognized by the law as property, no different than a bike, a loaf of bread or a $10 dollar bill.

That fact it can be easily reproduced is not recognized by the law as disqualifying it as being property.

Possessing property without permission IS stealing, and nobody is unclear about this. It is why there are no above-board, commercial sites providing this service.

It is wrong.

It is stealing.

Knowingly doing it and justifying it is really weak.

thats nice man just dont be calling people you dont know thieves. thank you for the lecture though....lets get back to knicks talk

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8/26/2016  9:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 8/26/2016  9:50 AM
Pavvy wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
nychamp wrote:If I steal your bicycle, you no longer have it. If I download a video someone else is sharing, I have it, they have it, others have it. Not "stealing". If you want to argue it's wrong, fine, but stealing is not the right word.

Intellectual property theft is considered stealing under any legal or common definition.

The broadcasts we're talking about are produced and broadcast for commercial purposes. It is the reason why you hear the ubiquitous disclaimer about 'unauthorized use is strictly prohibited' during every sports broadcast.

The sites we're referring to do not pay for the rights like the other commercial broadcasters do.

Intellectual property like books, movies, music, games, despite not being physical objects like a bicycle, are recognized by the law as property, no different than a bike, a loaf of bread or a $10 dollar bill.

That fact it can be easily reproduced is not recognized by the law as disqualifying it as being property.

Possessing property without permission IS stealing, and nobody is unclear about this. It is why there are no above-board, commercial sites providing this service.

It is wrong.

It is stealing.

Knowingly doing it and justifying it is really weak.

thats nice man just dont be calling people you dont know thieves. thank you for the lecture though....lets get back to knicks talk

You've described what you are doing and why perfectly clearly. You want something, do not have legal means to get it, so you think that justifies taking it by non-legal means. Not sure what knowing you has to do with it.

And the subject of THIS thread is not the knicks, it's how to obtain unauthorized NBA broadcasts.

My posts are entirely on topic for the OP you started.

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8/26/2016  2:06 PM
You've described what you are doing and why perfectly clearly. You want something, do not have legal means to get it, so you think that justifies taking it by non-legal means. Not sure what knowing you has to do with it.

And the subject of THIS thread is not the knicks, it's how to obtain unauthorized NBA broadcasts.

My posts are entirely on topic for the OP you started.

thats cool man

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