number of posters who blithely assume that rose is here to be option 1a or 1b

I think this statement is grossly exaggerated. I haven't seen one poster on this site with this kind of thinking.....But I have seen too much attention put on what other posters say, instead of what the players, coaches and GM has to say.

We have a motivated team from top to bottom. Everybody has something to prove. Rose said he would like to be more of a PG, since we have so many offensive options. Jennings has always been labeled a scoring PG, so I'm sure he wants to also show he can run a team as a PG.

When you have a complete team like we have, you don't need your PG to take all the shots. And Rose and Jennings understands this, because they are not rookies anymore trying to prove themselves in the NBA by scoring. Now they have to prove that they are actual PG's.....Because we already have a scoring SG, SF and PF.

I'm really looking forward to this season and how the offense will look under Hornacek. I think he will attract more PG's going forward, which is a great combination to have with a GM, who has an eye for bigs.

Only 27 years old. Now has the man had quite a few injuries? You bet (and that's how we were able to get him so cheap btw). Do I think his career's over though? Hell no. How can anyone definitively say that?!? I don't believe that--I think he's got a lot of game left in fact just like I would think about any other 27-year-old player. Just needs to get healthy and stay healthy. Who knows, that might be a tough proposition but I wouldn't go into this saying it's impossible. Look at a guy like Mark Teixeria for the Yankees -- injury after injury where the guy finally is pulling the plug and calling it quits. Difference is he's played a full career basically--Tex is 36 years old. Rose is 27--big difference.

All I can go on is what I see and last year I saw a player that made significant strides toward regaining top form by about mid-March or so where he looked much better. Now he's had a full offseason to continue recuperating/mending PLUS he's coming to a new city where excitement will be sky high. That should push him, re-energize him, galvanize him...The team too. How can any Knick fan not want to see that?? And how on Earth does Rose hinder KP's development as a playmaker? Anyone get that?? Is that what we want to see anyway, KP as a playmaker?? Or do we want him set up properly for scoring opportunities and crashing the offensive glass for putback dunks?? I know that's what I wanna see from the big fella and Rose can only help him there. Jose Calderon certainly wasn't penetrating deep into the teeth of the defense getting KP open looks like Rose should be able to do AT WILL, that's for sure.. And deprive Melo and Noah of shot opportunities?? Huh? I don't understand that either. First off, Rose is the best thing that's happened to all 3 of these guys, Noah would be the first one to stand up and profess this having already played with Rose for years (plus Noah's not a guy who needs to get shots up anyway -- he's your frontcourt playmaker looking for guys cutting etc., not KP). Let Rose attack and get KP good open looks, either in the post/mid range/P&R or pick and pop or out high on kick outs. He'll get Melo opportunities in his office as well. We don't need Melo taking 20+ shots a game anymore, pounding the ball in ISO situations which, ironically, I didn't think anyone wanted to see anymore anyway.

I'm not ready to close the book on D. Rose yet. Bottom line is we have 1 year before being faced with a big decision of whether or not to resign him. In order to make the most informed decision possible I think the Knicks need to see him perform at a high level with no restrictions. I mean WTF--if there are restrictions imposed, how are we gonna be able to determine if he's really worth keeping or not?? I think they need to let him go and let him do his thing. Let him attack and make plays, both for himself and others. The man's a game-changer for us, bottom line. Above all else, he's the one guy who will lead to more wins with a real chance to change this whole thing around in a hurry -- again, if we let him be him. I don't want to see one game wasted with him. Now if he's not healthy at any point or if he can't handle it, then of course it's a completely different conversation and you make the necessary adjustments but no way do I think we go in with the idea of suppressing his aggressiveness in any way. Now no one's advocating running him into the ground either. I certainly am not (Jennings is here remember and he should get plenty of PT thus sparing Rose some wear and tear along the way--I'd hope that's the plan) OR wanting to see him play selfish and reckless out there. Not saying that at all...But when the man is out there, let him be him, mistakes and all. Only way we can truly find out if he's worth keeping or not and if he's really the game-changer I think he could be. Again, like I mentioned on the other thread discussing this same subject -- the last thing I wanna see is the Knicks playing this overly cautious with Rose for 20 games, 30 games or whatever by going out of their way to tell Rose not to play his game, only to then realize they should've cut him loose all along. Season could be over by then. Rose is too special a player to suppress like that. You cut his minutes down somewhat if you want to help keep him fresh and healthy, not suppress his game while he's on the court. Two completely different things entirely...Wind him up and let him go--we'll get our answer either way.

We'll have a new point guard for the Knicks in 2017-2018.

Moonangie wrote:

blkexec wrote:The bigger issue is what happens if Rose is close to his MVP form? Now what? That's a better thread discussion. I agree with finestrg..,Let rose be himself. If he can't figure out when to be selfish and how to make his team better, then you let him go. The problem is some posters don't believe rose will be healthy again. And there's nothing you can do to change their minds until the season begins. So its really a waste of time.

Glad to see there are a few out there with an open mind. True knick fans should be jumping for joy right now, instead of nick picking. This is a new chapter fellas....enjoy the ride.

I really appreciate this perspective. Writing off Rose as a "has been" or a dominating "me first" type of player is foolish. He's more mature, not only from his years in the league, but also from what he has endured. He will recognize this opportunity for what it is: A chance to show the player he has become, not the player he was five years ago. It's his chance to establish a new paradigm in NYC and (hopefully) earn the deal that will let him become an all star PG who leads a team with talent. New York is the perfect place for him to do that.

I am super excited for this season, even though (like all of us) I still suffer from our long history of enduring NYK hell. This just feels different, and in a few short weeks we'll know.

Agreed. This is how I feel as well.

"I'm just happy to be here, I'm happy to be playing alongside somebody [Anthony] that I believe is a dog just like I am and is willing to do whatever it takes to win," he said. "I'm grateful, I'm appreciative and I can't wait."

Rose said he spoke to Anthony after the trade and expects they will "link up" again this summer. Rose is training in Los Angeles and planned to head back to the West Coast after his press conference.

As for Porzingis, he sounded thrilled to be teaming up with the 7-foot-3 Latvian who will be entering his second year in the league.

"He's so good knocking down shots," Rose said of Porzingis. "That's somebody I would die to play with and now I got two of those guys."