but id have reservations being that hes FROM here. my boys see him at clubs and parties all the time. he runs with a THICK THICK crew. id be nervous about him coming back home. this spells JR SMITH all over again

i wouldnt mind giving him a one yr contract though - so he can be on his best behavior. knicks need help off the bench

dk7th wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

dk7th wrote:one more thing: how can you be in "win now mode" when realistically this year the knicks *may* make the playoffs. "win-now" mode is a fantasy, or a bit of wishful thinking by naive and desperate fans spurred by jackson toying with the media.

the only way anybody can think of the knicks in win-now mode is if they are legitimate contenders, a top 5 team. does anyone in their right minds think the knicks are legitimate contenders?!?

kooky

That wiley old coot Phil signed two guys that are going to be 31 at the start of the season to four year deals. Was that part of his plan to toy with the media?

Pretty much. Star phuck city. You don't go from 32 wins to contender with these moves. The most you can hope for with perfect health and gel time permitting is a +10 to +12 game uptick, and that's if all the pieces come together and the rest of the east regresses.

Not terrible deals Phil doled out, but still doesn't put us anywhere near the top half of the east. Best case scenario for this 3 to 4 year window is KP gets alot of 1st and and maybe 2nd round playoff experience, and we get real impactful players as he enters his prime years.

i think lee is a solid pro, high character guy who will age well. noah i feel exactly the same. yes the contracts are too long but in terms of culture noah's presence and influence on kp6 is going to be fantastic, justifying the length of his contract. so far as the two knucklehead point guards on one-year contracts, well... i chalk that up to sunk costs. i don't like either of them in terms of character, so i see placeholders on a 3-4 year timeline. [rose will be in court on october 4th, first day of preseason-- this is really bad.] fans who think these moves are for "win-now" are delusional. if melo wins a title or gets to the finals in his last, opt-in year, then good for melo.

serious, dolan-like, mistakes could be made with this dangerous mindset of win-now. in fact, all you need to do is google "phil jackson win now" and all you get is berman and begley never actually quoting phil jackson using those words. the term itself is either put in quotes or in brackets, meaning it is the writer's inference and not actually from the horse's mouth, either jackson or mills.

seems like many fans who want to interpret the proceedings as win-now, are still addicted to a drunkard dolan's impulsivity and cluelessness.

EnySpree wrote:

klintorious wrote:Definitely worth the risk at the minimum. I'm new here. Can we say words like ****, ****, ****sucker and ****??

No but I think you might make the hall of fame for best first post ever

Assumably he is holding out for more than the minimum. That said, if he is willing to sign for the minimum, you have to take that risk. At that price, the contract is tradeable in December. The contract by itself creates value. He and Vujacic can compete for those extra minutes at 2.

NYKBocker wrote:No way Phil signs him. Too much of a head case.

Head case like D.Rodman or R.Artest?

mreinman wrote:why so much lance love/talk? Who cares about him? Is it because he is a local?

Probably because he is a young player who had success in the past that could've been got on the cheap. Plus he had a decent year last year. I would've taken Lance over Justin.