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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
7/23/2016 9:03 AM LAST EDITED: 7/23/2016 9:03 AM
Full box score
http://www.usab.com/news-events/live-stats/2016/07/box-score-2016-mnt-showcase-game-usa-vs-argentina.aspx Melo was mostly shooting 3s apparently but he shot well. Cousins had 15 rebounds in 16 minutes. LOL |
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
7/23/2016 9:11 AM
We have simply broken Argentina--once a great great team.
RIP Crushalot😞
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WaltLongmire
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7/23/2016 9:12 AM
HofstraBBall wrote: Are we thinking that the explosiveness issue is age, still getting in shape, or injury, related? His outside shooting might be more important for us this year, IMO. EnySpree: Can we agree to agree not to mention Phil Jackson and triangle for the rest of our lives?
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martin
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7/23/2016 9:17 AM
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EnySpree
Posts: 44917 Alba Posts: 138 Joined: 4/18/2003 Member: #397 |
7/23/2016 9:54 AM
HofstraBBall wrote: He got fouled on that dunk attempt. I also see a Melo that's trying to take the shots given to him. He's not the man on this team that's not his role so he's playing a team game. He looks awesome out there. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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Bonn1997
Posts: 58654 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 2/2/2004 Member: #581 USA |
7/23/2016 10:00 AM
EnySpree wrote:HofstraBBall wrote: Did he get fouled? With the video quality and angle shown, it was impossible for me to tell. |
EnySpree
Posts: 44917 Alba Posts: 138 Joined: 4/18/2003 Member: #397 |
7/23/2016 10:03 AM LAST EDITED: 7/23/2016 10:03 AM
Bonn1997 wrote:EnySpree wrote:HofstraBBall wrote: Looks like he was trying to avoid turning his ankle. Anyway whatever your eyeball see... he's 32 years old. He's not going to tear down the rim like he's 20 years old.... Dude is still an elite player and getting praised by his coaches and peers for his leadership. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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fishmike
Posts: 53132 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
7/23/2016 2:10 PM
read a stat that Melo shot 48% from 3 when uncontested. We know JH has mentioned getting him down court faster. He should be spotting up everytime down and forcing someone to stick him otherwise he's going to shoot 10 of those a game and kill you with it.
Really looking forward to a faster spread offense. Im a bit concerned about 3rd PG. Would be nice to see us get Randle. I think that spot gets some burn for sure this year, but I could also just see Sasha getting time there. Sasha is a good player to give a spot start to, and you keep Jennings in his 3rd guard, 6th man role. You KNOW JH is going to play small alot with Melo at the 4, KP/Noah/Willy/KOQ at the 5 and have 3 guards or Kuz at the 3 to spread it. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
7/23/2016 3:33 PM
fishmike wrote:read a stat that Melo shot 48% from 3 when uncontested. We know JH has mentioned getting him down court faster. He should be spotting up everytime down and forcing someone to stick him otherwise he's going to shoot 10 of those a game and kill you with it. Yeah I also expect to see a lot of Small ball from JH. He loves the pace and space you can get with that and we have the right bigs to play that way and still have rim protection. |
dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/23/2016 3:55 PM
he has a pretty stroke but lets be real: has almost no lift on that jump shot, less than ever.
knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
7/23/2016 4:04 PM
dk7th wrote:he has a pretty stroke but lets be real: has almost no lift on that jump shot, less than ever. WTF are you talking about? LIFT? Man this is a weak point to be trying to make IMO. I really don't get your negative attitude at all. |
dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/23/2016 4:17 PM
nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:he has a pretty stroke but lets be real: has almost no lift on that jump shot, less than ever. so my observation of his lift is wrong? if i am stating a fact that happens to upset you, that is not being negative. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/23/2016 4:19 PM
EnySpree wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:EnySpree wrote:HofstraBBall wrote: no he ended up too far underneath the basket and had to arch back a bit to dunk it. now maybe he was avoiding the block or maybe he needed to gather himself with a bigger step than he would otherwise be taking IF he had some lift.... knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
7/23/2016 4:37 PM
dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:he has a pretty stroke but lets be real: has almost no lift on that jump shot, less than ever. How is it a "fact" that Melo has "less than ever" lift? You will have to do a lot better than just your word to prove that kind of statement. Also it really isn't material if he's making shots. He's getting enough lift to make shots. You couldn't find anything else to bash Melo with so you go with LIFT? |
CrushAlot
Posts: 59764 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/25/2003 Member: #452 USA |
7/23/2016 5:24 PM
dk7th wrote:I think you guys are both right. He definitely landed gingerly and looked like he was trying to avoid something.EnySpree wrote:Bonn1997 wrote:EnySpree wrote:HofstraBBall wrote: I'm tired,I'm tired, I'm so tired right now......Kristaps Porzingis 1/3/18
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/23/2016 6:10 PM
nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:he has a pretty stroke but lets be real: has almost no lift on that jump shot, less than ever. dial it back a bit, nixluva. i have been effusive in my praise of him last season. he played 25 extraordinary games and should he continue to play that way this coming season that praise will continue, since athleticism was not required to play like that. but he's never been blessed with hops and all i am saying is your athleticism declines after age thirty. also you need to look at the trend of his 3-point shooting: it has been trending down. 34% from downtown is nothing to write home about. knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
7/23/2016 7:27 PM
dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:he has a pretty stroke but lets be real: has almost no lift on that jump shot, less than ever. That "trend" includes issues with his knee that needed to be fixed. I actually expect Melo to improve his 3pt shooting as he's had time to improve his leg strength and overall conditioning. It's not really expected that his jumper should drop significantly as long as he's healthy. Shooters tend to keep that skill even as they age! Melo started off slow and got better until he tripped over the ref. That set him back a bit but he ended strong with March being his best month, shooting 40.7% from 3. I don't believe in your take that Melo's 3pt shot is falling off due to age. |
EnySpree
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7/23/2016 9:55 PM LAST EDITED: 7/23/2016 10:59 PM
nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:he has a pretty stroke but lets be real: has almost no lift on that jump shot, less than ever. I gotta say that's annoying... "lift"?... the dude is stroking the 3 like a boss and we're talking about his lift? He's snapping the **** out of the net and we're going to complain that he doesn't jump high enough for your liking? Like who cares the guys jumper is wet. Subscribe to my Podcast https://youtube.com/c/DiehardknicksPodcast
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dk7th
Posts: 30006 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/14/2012 Member: #4228 USA |
7/23/2016 11:18 PM
EnySpree wrote:nixluva wrote:dk7th wrote:he has a pretty stroke but lets be real: has almost no lift on that jump shot, less than ever. he's stroking it like a boss but he's playing against the argentine national team... knicks win 38-43 games in 16-17. rose MUST shoot no more than 14 shots per game, defer to kp6 + melo, and have a usage rate of less than 25%
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