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Kyle O'Quinn and a future pick
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EnySpree
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7/15/2016  7:15 PM
A few outlets are speculating the Knicks could trade Kyle Oquinn and a 2017 first rounder for Okafor. Would you do that?

Would you trade that package for anyone else?

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mreinman
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7/15/2016  7:16 PM
in a heartbeat ... why the heck would philly do that deal?
so here is what phil is thinking ....
Knickoftime
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7/15/2016  7:20 PM
EnySpree wrote:A few outlets are speculating the Knicks could trade Kyle Oquinn and a 2017 first rounder for Okafor. Would you do that?

Would you trade that package for anyone else?

A few outlets?

You mean the afternoon shift at a Sears Outlet?

Knickoftime
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7/15/2016  7:23 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2016  7:23 PM
Of course...


https://theringer.com/who-wants-jahlil-okafor-303e9d13169#.sqfuhz7ro

Purely speculative. One guy's made up scenario. No rumor actually attaching Okafor to the Knicks.

This is a sad state of affairs.

WaltLongmire
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7/15/2016  7:26 PM
Any sources??? Not fair if you don't let us know.


Intriguing. In essence, he would become a second rotation player, and he could be tutored by Noah. We have a mature high character team, IMO...he would be much better off here than with the Sixers.

Philly has a logjam of bigs, but it would be amazing if they gave him up for that package. Does it mean that there's something about him that we don't know about?

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7/15/2016  7:29 PM
Knickoftime wrote:Of course...


https://theringer.com/who-wants-jahlil-okafor-303e9d13169#.sqfuhz7ro

Purely speculative. One guy's made up scenario. No rumor actually attaching Okafor to the Knicks.

This is a sad state of affairs.


Guy is basically like us....

Hope this isn't the only "rumor."

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7/15/2016  7:37 PM
mreinman wrote:in a heartbeat ... why the heck would philly do that deal?

Okafor was pretty bad last year and knowing our organization this is going to be an unprotected pick.

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7/15/2016  7:43 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2016  7:43 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:Of course...


https://theringer.com/who-wants-jahlil-okafor-303e9d13169#.sqfuhz7ro

Purely speculative. One guy's made up scenario. No rumor actually attaching Okafor to the Knicks.

This is a sad state of affairs.


Guy is basically like us....

Hope this isn't the only "rumor."

This is the source. The only source.

This is how the content farm, internet telephone game works.

Knickoftime
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7/15/2016  7:45 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:in a heartbeat ... why the heck would philly do that deal?

Okafor was pretty bad last year and knowing our organization this is going to be an unprotected pick.

And there it is...

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7/15/2016  7:57 PM
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:in a heartbeat ... why the heck would philly do that deal?
Okafor was pretty bad last year and knowing our organization this is going to be an unprotected pick.
I doubt it. Phil does not overpay
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7/15/2016  8:02 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
Bonn1997 wrote:
mreinman wrote:in a heartbeat ... why the heck would philly do that deal?

Okafor was pretty bad last year and knowing our organization this is going to be an unprotected pick.

And there it is...

LOL. On cue.

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7/15/2016  8:15 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2016  8:17 PM
EnySpree wrote:A few outlets are speculating the Knicks could trade Kyle Oquinn and a 2017 first rounder for Okafor. Would you do that?

Would you trade that package for anyone else?

I doubt this is a real rumor and couldn't see it happening if it was but it isn't.

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7/15/2016  8:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2016  8:38 PM
Okafor has promise but I would rather have Noel becoming Noah's under study. I also would perfer it to be a 2018 pick. I can understand that the thinking maybe that They still have the two 2017 picks but if they traded a 2017 1st it needs to be protected because the season could go sour quickly due to health reasons. Also, the 2017 draft is so deep that the Knicks could theoretically come away with 3 players that would be equal to a top 15 player of the 2016 draft.
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7/15/2016  8:39 PM
we can't trade that draft pick.
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7/15/2016  8:45 PM
It would most likely be a low first round pick, so I would be ok with it. OK4 might benefit from a change of scenery, a team with more veterans on the roster, not to mention Phil.

Okafor is still on a very reasonable rookie deal so he wouldn't count that much against the cap, and it would give us added insurance in case Noah has any issues over the next 4 years. Pretty sure they would ask for more to send him to a division rival.

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7/15/2016  9:05 PM
Knicksfan wrote:we can't trade that draft pick.

Not so.

Coon:

The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years, or by giving one team the right to swap picks with the other.

As this applies to the Knicks, since business for the 2016-17 season has started, the Knicks can trade its 2017 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2016 pick, since their 2016 pick is no longer a future pick.

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7/15/2016  9:06 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/15/2016  9:06 PM
GustavBahler wrote:It would most likely be a low first round pick, so I would be ok with it. OK4 might benefit from a change of scenery, a team with more veterans on the roster, not to mention Phil.

Okafor is still on a very reasonable rookie deal so he wouldn't count that much against the cap, and it would give us added insurance in case Noah has any issues over the next 4 years. Pretty sure they would ask for more to send him to a division rival.

Again, some guy made the scenario up. There is no there there.

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7/15/2016  9:22 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:It would most likely be a low first round pick, so I would be ok with it. OK4 might benefit from a change of scenery, a team with more veterans on the roster, not to mention Phil.

Okafor is still on a very reasonable rookie deal so he wouldn't count that much against the cap, and it would give us added insurance in case Noah has any issues over the next 4 years. Pretty sure they would ask for more to send him to a division rival.

Again, some guy made the scenario up. There is no there there.

Will you stop acting like a GD Hall Monitor? Martin was right, you dont get how message boards work. Doesnt matter if its true or not. Posters throw out scenarios, we dont fing wait for some journalistic or legal standard of accuracy to talk about wether or not some trade idea is a good one. Just shooting the breeze.

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7/15/2016  9:29 PM
GustavBahler wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:It would most likely be a low first round pick, so I would be ok with it. OK4 might benefit from a change of scenery, a team with more veterans on the roster, not to mention Phil.

Okafor is still on a very reasonable rookie deal so he wouldn't count that much against the cap, and it would give us added insurance in case Noah has any issues over the next 4 years. Pretty sure they would ask for more to send him to a division rival.

Again, some guy made the scenario up. There is no there there.

Will you stop acting like a GD Hall Monitor? Martin was right, you dont get how message boards work. Doesnt matter if its true or not. Posters throw out scenarios, we dont fing wait for some journalistic or legal standard of accuracy to talk about wether or not some trade idea is a good one. Just shooting the breeze.

I understand how they work.

They shouldn't work that way.

This thread is based not on the premise of 'let'd discuss a made up scenario" it's based on the premise "A few outlets are speculating the Knicks could trade Kyle Oquinn and a 2017 first rounder for Okafor," neither of which is true.

This is how and why fictional speculation resurfaces as "rumors".

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7/15/2016  9:47 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
Knicksfan wrote:we can't trade that draft pick.

Not so.

Coon:

The Stepien rule applies only to future first round picks. For example, if this is the 2011-12 season, then a team can trade its 2012 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2011 pick, since their 2011 pick is no longer a future pick. But they can't trade away both their 2012 and 2013 picks, since both are future picks. Teams sometimes work around this rule by trading first round picks in alternate years, or by giving one team the right to swap picks with the other.

As this applies to the Knicks, since business for the 2016-17 season has started, the Knicks can trade its 2017 first round pick without regard to whether they had traded their 2016 pick, since their 2016 pick is no longer a future pick.

Damn

We shouldn't trade that pick. Even with a good season, I believe we will come out with s better player than troubled Okafor.

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