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Nalod
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7/10/2016  8:27 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/10/2016  12:46 PM
Millennials don't think as individually as players did back in the day.
Lebron is very communal in his thinking. Jordan will hit a teammate, Lebron will work with you.

Think about how these guys grew up, they go to different high schools, not just the one in their neighborhood. They are recruited to play with others. AAU teams are super teams. Some of these guys grew up together and know each other most of their lives.
Then they are recruited to college with the best going one and done.

Durant is drawn to the team concept on and off the court. He wants to experience what many players want is after financial security the experience of beautiful symmetry of ball movement on the court where 5 players are unified. I can respect that desire. Its the kind of basketball I enjoy watching. Durant has everything in place. His endorsement deals are solid and his wealth is substantial. Its the right time for him to move on.

Some of you think in terms of villains or heroes with no middle ground. My blind hate for Jordan for most of my career blinded me to
not enjoy the feats of his greatness as much as I should. Lebron, while no perfect person has earned my respect for what he has been able to do on the court which is still lost on so many of us. Off the court Jordan was very private and rumored to be not so nice person where Lebron has been nothing close to him except a bit obnoxious. Jordan threatened to not play on the dream team if Isiah played. Jordan was about himself. Isiah the player and his detroit team was a fierce rival to the Bulls. Fans wanted to see Isiah play and he deserved his spot on the dream team. I don't like Isiah because of his time with the knicks but that does not preclude me to wipe away his history as a player in his era and appreciate his playing career. Isiah was amazing in his time!!

Jordan did leave the Bulls. Lets not forget that either. He "retired", or quit on his team in his prime. He also had little to do with the bulls in his retirement. His HOF speech pretty much told his story of his personality. This has nothing to do with his on court performance mind you but he is a arse off it.

The subject of Durant being a Bytch is subjective. In a league that the players now have some power there are many that don't like this and think they should not ruin a franchise by leaving. I can't support being critical of a man who wants to move from one place to another an choose where to be employed. That is his right.

My take is todays ball player has a different take than players of the past. Millennials want "experiences", and Durant is seeking his. Joakim Noah is doing the same thing by picking the knicks. He is not at the same level of course, but he wants to be in NY. DWade wants the experience of being wanted in Chicago by the fans and his owner. Its not to "Win". Look at the roster, it makes no sense. He choose that over loyalty and history. The money was not the issue.

Heroe or villain? We are manipulated to pick one or the other in todays world where media paints public figures one or the other.
I'll choose for myself and try to take the middle ground. I won't root for GSW, but I won't paint them as the bad guys either. Really, its going to be who they are playing. I rooted for the Cav's this past year, and I rooted for Lebron to step up and take his place in history. I rooted for the Thunder and their testicles to overcome the juggernaut that was the warriors.

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Nalod
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7/11/2016  8:41 AM
Cowerd bought up a point I'm not sure I agree with......

Lebron beat a team that won 73 games. Jordan never had a "super team" to beat. Jordan was a top scorer but had to wait until Detroit got old. Yes, Knicks and Indy were tough, but not super team tough. Had to beat the Jazz, Portland, Sonics Old Lakers, old Detroit (neither in their primes.....but never a great great team. Ok, they were the great team.

Lebron is 1-1 against the super team. Might even give him a pass for not having Love/kyrie the first go around.
Media has set the benchmark of jordan/bulls 6-0 as the benchmark. Its a worthy one, but are we not fully appreciating Lebrons full basketball talent because of it?

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7/11/2016  11:34 AM
I very much like your take, Nalod. I think you are on to something with the stereotype of the communally-minded Millenial versus the mindset of "Me Generation" players.

Maybe a part of this is also Millenials grew up in a post-Dream Team era. Before Barcelona '92, the Olympic basketball team was fielded by amateurs. I remember being both excited to see all of these players on one team, yet also picking up a "cheat mode" vibe of a two-month long, flag-draped NBA commercial. But then that became part of the New Normal. It's a national disgrace to get the Bronze now. So maybe that also has influenced the mindset of the new jacks.

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7/11/2016  11:48 AM
I also contend the rise of fantasy sports has also influenced the acceptance of the superteam.

Fantasy sports players have now introduced the dynamic where you root for your favorite team, but still also root for individual players, even if they're competing against you favorite team (which I have no use for).

The "hot stove" has always been a part of sports, but now fans are in a way participants. Roster building is now the primary focus for some fans, with actual play merely a mathematical byproduct of the building of the roster.

The offseason is when the real work is put in and achievement happens. The actual season is the corronation of who had the best offseason.

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7/11/2016  12:22 PM
Knickoftime wrote:I also contend the rise of fantasy sports has also influenced the acceptance of the superteam.

Fantasy sports players have now introduced the dynamic where you root for your favorite team, but still also root for individual players, even if they're competing against you favorite team (which I have no use for).

The "hot stove" has always been a part of sports, but now fans are in a way participants. Roster building is now the primary focus for some fans, with actual play merely a mathematical byproduct of the building of the roster.

The offseason is when the real work is put in and achievement happens. The actual season is the corronation of who had the best offseason.

Interesting. I would also add video games which allow players to build superteams. Lots of NBA players have a playstation, xbox. I could see Durant seeing if it worked on 2k.

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7/11/2016  1:11 PM
Knickoftime wrote:I also contend the rise of fantasy sports has also influenced the acceptance of the superteam.

Fantasy sports players have now introduced the dynamic where you root for your favorite team, but still also root for individual players, even if they're competing against you favorite team (which I have no use for).

The "hot stove" has always been a part of sports, but now fans are in a way participants. Roster building is now the primary focus for some fans, with actual play merely a mathematical byproduct of the building of the roster.

The offseason is when the real work is put in and achievement happens. The actual season is the corronation of who had the best offseason.

Good point, Jordan slayed knicks. Lebron has too, but so has most of the NBA. Knicks have been in so few meaningful games that we have really no villains.
MSG cheering Kobe or Lebron is not cool!!!!

I grew up HATING sports teams from Boston. Great NY rivalries!!!! I went to boston years a go and had a great time. Great city!!!
Now, we have no rivalry. Yanks and Sawx play too many games and few are important, Patriots-Jets has little left to it, and Celtics have no villians currently.
I disliked the "Heatles" but grew to really appreciate what Lebron was doing. Im also a grown up now. I think.

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