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BRIGGS
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7/1/2016  12:29 PM
Mostly in rd 2 or late 1. With these massive contracts you cannot afford anything less than a top notch minor league system. The nba needs to make 2 additional roster spots for teams that allow them to develop young players. I see a lot of avenues we could've traveled on draft day but we didn't go there nor did we increase the teams speed or athletic ability. You need to develop your own
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7/1/2016  12:32 PM
I definitely would like to see the d league/nba team made into more of a minor league system. Two extra roster spots would be a good start. Things like Bachynski going to camp and summer league with the Pistons but playing for two years on the W-Knicks is frustrating.
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7/1/2016  12:34 PM
Don't know why they've resisted making it much more of a real minor league system. It would lead to more teams buying their own DL team and much better integration between the DL and NBA.
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7/1/2016  12:35 PM
And get the players union to allow you to spread the money deeper. Its stupid that these NBDL players have to live on the kinds of deals they do when Mozgov is getting $64M for being tall. Basically.
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7/1/2016  12:36 PM
Considering the global reach of the game and that players can make a healthier living than they can in the D-League, getting players to commit to what's essentially a minor league commitment would be difficult.

Revenue isn't there to give D-League players a decent incentive to stay and commit.

If you want to make staying in the D-League and committing to a team financially attractive, salaries would have to be subsidized.

Which means it'd have to come from the pockets of the owners and players.

Good luck with that.

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7/1/2016  12:41 PM
Knickoftime wrote:Considering the global reach of the game and that players can make a healthier living than they can in the D-League, getting players to commit to what's essentially a minor league commitment would be difficult.

Revenue isn't there to give D-League players a decent incentive to stay and commit.

If you want to make staying in the D-League and committing to a team financially attractive, salaries would have to be subsidized.

Which means it'd have to come from the pockets of the owners and players.

Good luck with that.

The only thing in place now is guys get signed to a partially guaranteed deal to pad their pockets when they are cut and protected in the d league draft. Knicks did that with Thanasis, Trice, and Atkins last year.
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BRIGGS
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7/1/2016  12:42 PM
Knickoftime wrote:Considering the global reach of the game and that players can make a healthier living than they can in the D-League, getting players to commit to what's essentially a minor league commitment would be difficult.

Revenue isn't there to give D-League players a decent incentive to stay and commit.

If you want to make staying in the D-League and committing to a team financially attractive, salaries would have to be subsidized.

Which means it'd have to come from the pockets of the owners and players.

Good luck with that.

A young player has very little to zero leverage. The cost of a minor league system is pennies and smart for everyone

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7/1/2016  12:47 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:Considering the global reach of the game and that players can make a healthier living than they can in the D-League, getting players to commit to what's essentially a minor league commitment would be difficult.

Revenue isn't there to give D-League players a decent incentive to stay and commit.

If you want to make staying in the D-League and committing to a team financially attractive, salaries would have to be subsidized.

Which means it'd have to come from the pockets of the owners and players.

Good luck with that.

A young player has very little to zero leverage.

Sure he does. Professional ball is played around the world.

BRIGGS
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7/1/2016  1:23 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:Considering the global reach of the game and that players can make a healthier living than they can in the D-League, getting players to commit to what's essentially a minor league commitment would be difficult.

Revenue isn't there to give D-League players a decent incentive to stay and commit.

If you want to make staying in the D-League and committing to a team financially attractive, salaries would have to be subsidized.

Which means it'd have to come from the pockets of the owners and players.

Good luck with that.

A young player has very little to zero leverage.

Sure he does. Professional ball is played around the world.

Who cares there is the NBA and everyone else

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Knickoftime
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7/1/2016  1:29 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:Considering the global reach of the game and that players can make a healthier living than they can in the D-League, getting players to commit to what's essentially a minor league commitment would be difficult.

Revenue isn't there to give D-League players a decent incentive to stay and commit.

If you want to make staying in the D-League and committing to a team financially attractive, salaries would have to be subsidized.

Which means it'd have to come from the pockets of the owners and players.

Good luck with that.

A young player has very little to zero leverage.

Sure he does. Professional ball is played around the world.

Who cares there is the NBA and everyone else

People who want to earn a decent living.

WaltLongmire
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7/1/2016  1:34 PM
CrushAlot wrote:I definitely would like to see the d league/nba team made into more of a minor league system. Two extra roster spots would be a good start. Things like Bachynski going to camp and summer league with the Pistons but playing for two years on the W-Knicks is frustrating.

Yeah...we've talked about this a lot...a big issue for me.

MLB, NHL...plenty of established programs to look at, but the NFL and NBA have always seemed to consider the NCAA to be their "farm" system.

Not really working in basketball because the desired young players are 1 and done types.

A young player should be able to earn a living wage playing in the DL or other system in the U.S., and teams who want to spend the money developing young players should have a chance to do it.

You could even incorporate some kind of educational component to help young players grow up and learn how to do things on their own and not depend entirely on agents, financial handlers, and the leeches who usually hang around young player when they first become successful.

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7/1/2016  1:50 PM
WaltLongmire wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:I definitely would like to see the d league/nba team made into more of a minor league system. Two extra roster spots would be a good start. Things like Bachynski going to camp and summer league with the Pistons but playing for two years on the W-Knicks is frustrating.

Yeah...we've talked about this a lot...a big issue for me.

MLB, NHL...plenty of established programs to look at, but the NFL and NBA have always seemed to consider the NCAA to be their "farm" system.

Not really working in basketball because the desired young players are 1 and done types.

A young player should be able to earn a living wage playing in the DL or other system in the U.S., and teams who want to spend the money developing young players should have a chance to do it.

You could even incorporate some kind of educational component to help young players grow up and learn how to do things on their own and not depend entirely on agents, financial handlers, and the leeches who usually hang around young player when they first become successful.

Again, would have to be subsidized. Minor league baseball players don't make living wages, but they have no other realistic options.

Basketball players do.

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7/1/2016  3:30 PM
The problem with a minor league is that there just aren't enough good basketball players. Fringe NBA players dominate the D-league and even overseas leagues all the time. The best place to develop NBA players is the NBA.
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