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RonRon
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7/1/2016  12:10 PM
Maybe this can be the Official vet min to vet min like kind of deals


This is the new NBA, we have to accept it

Ish Smith at 3years 6mill from DDDDD Troit? (I certainly would have interst in a player for Ish Smith, making 1/2 of Lin and is still young and quick/fast,
DJ Augstine 4year 28mill from Orlando


What will Jarret Jack be making after that crazy injury? I only have interest in him for a vet min deal because of his major injury/age


I would not be surprised to see me DeAndre Jordan like moves *without the drama* this year, I really like Ish Smith at that price and even Augustine is not bad (which might set the market for comparable talents like


Bayless just a solid combo guard that is a LEGIT PG, think he can be the backup that has the ability to start *if needed*
Sessions (older)
And quality backup PG's in the range of 6m+ to 8m per year

With Wroten getting cut *I think the Knicks already have a backup plan already as they did not need the roster spot and was a VET MIN DEAL that could have allowed us to have early bird rights with minimal risk*
This could be a player from Europe Ronnie Price who played for Jeff Horneck


Jeff Taylor

I liked Jeff Taylor a couple years now and think he can be Evan Turner like without the post ups but better shooter
We need to find quality younger talents that have the ability to finish inside and out, VET MINS
We have to realize that Dunleavey was very crucial to The Chicago team for his HIGH IQ, SMART CUTS, USING AND GIVING PICKS, WIDE OPEN SHOTS, VERSATILE SKILLS/SIZE/LENGTH etc


I believe Jeff Taylor could serve as a very solid player which played for Euro League...
Jeffrey Taylor played for the Bobcats a couple years ago and was suspended with domestic violence with his spouse
I think he is an under the radar player we could look to acquire
Maybe a 2year vet min deal?

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7/1/2016  12:39 PM
Al jefferson at 10M per year is a deal
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7/1/2016  12:42 PM
Marcus Thornton.
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7/1/2016  1:01 PM
would love thornton on this team, guy scores in bunches. Loved him in sacramento
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7/1/2016  1:43 PM
Damien Inglis

Christian Wood

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7/1/2016  1:47 PM
yellowboy90 wrote:Damien Inglis

Christian Wood

I think Inglis played some games with Westchester last year. I don't remember him standing out.
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7/1/2016  2:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/1/2016  2:14 PM
Have always liked Bayless and Augustine as low cost high percentage shooters. Augustine off the board. Would now be curious about Curry and Rivers.
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7/1/2016  4:44 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
yellowboy90 wrote:Damien Inglis

Christian Wood

I think Inglis played some games with Westchester last year. I don't remember him standing out.

He didn't.

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7/1/2016  4:51 PM
NYY1NYK2 wrote:Al jefferson at 10M per year is a deal

not the way the game is played these days.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/1/2016  4:52 PM
We need some veteran experience as well as role players. For vet minimums I like Steve Novak, Alan Anderson, even taking a flyer on Antony Bennett. I think Novak could be useful in a Jeff Hornacek offense. Between 10-15 min a game
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7/1/2016  4:52 PM
this is a good post ... I would love if phil finds us a couple of gems. Another LT.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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7/1/2016  5:08 PM
jeff taylor beats women - no thank you

but i understand and agree with your sentiment

Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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7/1/2016  5:09 PM
I don't know how friendly a deal he'll get but if you could get Thomas Robinson on a $3-4m w/team option it would be nice. There has to be a way to tap into his ability to keep his rebounding skills on the floor.
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7/3/2016  12:58 PM    LAST EDITED: 7/4/2016  1:29 PM
Jon Leur/Mirza Televic are 2 solid pick ups at about 10-11 million a year compared to the 20m that Ryan Anderson got on 4year deals
Ish Smith at 6m is a STEAL, some great moves my Van Gundy/Detroit


There are also some combo guards available


PG's
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Sessions

Ian Clark

Troy Daniels/Tyler Johnson RFA's

Donald Sloan

Jarrett Jack

trade for Shelvin Mack?

Ronnie Price (or trades with Sun's, like PJ Tucker and Goodwin/Jenkins? maybe Brandon Knight or Bledsoe next year when the cap goes up again)

Combo Guards


Garreat Temple
Norris Cole
Seth Curry
Foye

Jabari Brown

Lance Stephenson *played in a somewhat Triangle before and was the #2man, sometimes as even the #1 option and was a triple double threat, though and was ball dominant but had to learn to mix it up the past couple of seasons, bring him home for the money we have left if we can sign him for the cheap on a 1 and 1 deal assuming Derrick Williams is gone

David West/Roy Hibbert on contract friendly deals, possibly vet mins if they have a good relationship with Lance Stephenson
Stealing Ish Smith (Detroit 3year 6m per year) and Matt Barnes (6m per year with player/team option for 2nd and not fully guaranteed) at their deals are STEALS

SG's
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Jeff Taylor (like I have been saying, he has some of similar skills/size/athleticism with better much 3pt shooting, he has been out of the league for a couple years since his domestic violence case which he admitted wrong and did not try to appeal, we were highly interested in Evan Turner and was signed by Portland for a reason, his game fits in with today's NBA if you have many shooters or very good shootes to spread the floor with, along with his ability to defend/post up, would have liked to try to MAX out or if there was a SUPER POISON PILL for Allen Crabbe but with the Turner signing, I think its a sign that they are serious about willing to go all in on this team that they have rather than thinking that they already have that much money committed along with Lilliard and CJ, think about it with Crabbe, they have 3 very good shooters (great shooter in Lilliard now can conserve more energy by playing off the ball more and defend the weak links... if


Gereld Henderson
Marcus Thortan/Kevin Martin

Brandon Rush (loved him before his injury, would he cost more than the vet min now?)


G/F
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Isiah Cannon

Alonzo Gee with suitors for Lance Thomas we may need a replacement but could use him regardless


other players
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Not sure what David Lee/Josh Smith would be making but I would love but of them if they are cheap for different reasons

Dewayne Dedmon(RFA) with Biyombo added to their team with Ibaka/Vucevic and the NBA Draft rookie Zimmerman
Kris Humphries
Hickson/Mo Speights

Thomas Robinson *a YOUNG player that likes to play in the POST and I think has developed/improves his game to become a solid contributer off the bench for the cheap and FIT in with TEAM BASKETBALL with Noah's ability to pass

Matt Barnes? think he could get 10m for a year with the market now though... *signed a 2year deal with The Kings for 6m per year, player option, I think we should certainly try to steal Barnes and Ish smith like DeAndre Jordan last year

Jakarr Sampson
Kosutas Pap


Shooters
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Luke Babbit
Chase Budinger
Novak

Anthony Morrow if they release him as his contract is not fully guaranteed
Damjan Rudez

D League
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Eric Green (briggs favorite also Nate Walters)

Thanasis, Dewuan Summers, JP TOKOTO
Backniski/Kuzmic/Plumlee

Mike James *young athletic one*/Alan Williams

Somewhat Gambles
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Larry Sanders - he wants back in the NBA, who blames him, I think those TE's that played Basketball should consider training back to playing basketball
He screwed the Bucks up, using the contracts against them
It should cost him 2years at a cap friendly deal to get show if he is serious or not, or looking for another multiyear handout

Jeremy Tyler

Andray Blatche

Bynum (could also be a development coach)

Jarrett Jack

RonRon aka Panda aka METTAWORLD PEACE

Jermaine Oneil/Stephenson

Kobe Bryant/Tracy Mcgrady


Euro and International
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Nando De Colo/Shved

Trades, Needs and Wants
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We simply could use multi skilled ball handlers *we were rumored to have interest in Turner for a reason*
Along with players that have the ability to penetrate/finish through contact/facilitate


We need solid BACKUPS at PG and Center for obvious reasons


Dunleavey was crucial for the Bulls, because of his HIGH IQ/SMART CUTS, GOOD SHOTS, VERSATILE DEF with his length
To maximize Noah's abilities we will need shooters and HIGH IQ talents as well, and if they can defend too it would be great
Not sure if we would be able to keep Lance Thomas with only his early bird rights and I am doubtful that we can keep Derrick Williams, unless they take less on 1 and 1 deals...

David Lee FITS in, maybe Kris Humprhies

Will Barton/Jeff Lauv or others on Denver *BARTON at about 3m is a complete steal and provides us insurance/young leggs, Lauv can be developed to be Noah's future successor*
Maybe just a trade for Will Barton and his low cap hold, cash and a couple of 2nd rounders?


Shelvin Mack

Shabazz


Coaching/Development Coaches/Trainers
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I think we NEED TO IMPROVE our development coaches and Trainers DIFFERENT TRAINER's some for the body in the gym and some for basketball drills
Chris Paul and Steph Curry have the same basketball trainer and are one of the better ball handlers in the league

Some former players that have the credibility/respect could also provide leadership/mentorship

Billups/Rashaeed Wallace
Ron Harper

Former Triangle Desciples
Robert Horry/Rick Fox

Jermaine Oneil

Lamar Odom *unguaranteed and on if he is serious about getting off the drugs*
Bynum, maybe a chance to get back in the gym to get back in shape while also developing in the Triangle as well....

Trainers both in the workout gyms/basketball court to get young players to where they want to be to fit in the system/schemes/philosophies to go with on the court drills/skills along with development coaches

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7/3/2016  1:10 PM
I wonder if Martell webster can over come his injuries.
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7/4/2016  7:14 AM
You've gotta think that they need a real good PG backup because of rose.
They need a playoff experienced Vet who can contribute.
All the above won't do. Think Playoff experience and someone running the team
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7/4/2016  11:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/4/2016  11:18 AM
Reading this article about the Wizards bringing over a pick they stashed in 2012. Can the Knicks buy one or more of these stash picks from other teams? Maybe Gaines can find another winner.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--european-guard-182412032.html

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7/4/2016  11:25 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/4/2016  12:09 PM
Here's my short list of players to round out the roster with:

Point Guards
Cat Barber
Seth Curry - Not sure how 'cap friendly' he'd be but we're nuts if we don't at least check in with him and see if we can fit him in here.
Yogi Ferrell
Corey Walden - Better version of Langston Galloway. Quicker, tighter handle, better drive/finish game, also a good shooter.
Bryce Cotton - Where is he now? He was good for Utah a couple of years ago and was great in the DL. I like him a little better than Frazier.
Tim Frazier

Shooting Guards
Terrico White
Jabari Brown

Forwards
Lance Thomas
Justin Harper - Very similar to Chris Copeland. 6'10" 230, can really stretch the floor with his very good jumper.
Jerrelle Benimon - Unusual 6'8" 245 PF who does a lot of good things: scores, rebounds, handles the ball very well, great passer.
Khem Birch - Does he have an opt out with Olympiacos? I'd love an Amir Johnson-type defensive 4 like this. This dude's underrated. Better than Amir Johnson.
Octavius Ellis - Similar to Birch.

Centers
Willy Hernangomez - What's the deal with him?
Jordan Bachynski - I'd have to make sure he's in shape though. He looked heavy to me the other day in the SL game against DET.

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7/5/2016  12:42 PM
How to fill out our roster??
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7/5/2016  12:47 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Reading this article about the Wizards bringing over a pick they stashed in 2012. Can the Knicks buy one or more of these stash picks from other teams? Maybe Gaines can find another winner.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--european-guard-182412032.html

Bulls pick next year is a slot to get a guy like that
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