After watching that game, the Knicks should've pulled the trigger to get Brian Grant the minute it was proposed. Thomas was in foul trouble w/ what?, 5 minutes in the first quarter! Give me a break, Knight is decent, but the Knicks need all the help they can get and with him getting these stupid fouls, then arguing for some reason and getting Techincals, it just doesn't help. Why doesn't Harrington start? Can anyone tell me? And also, just watching those last fifteen shots or however many pathetic shots they attempted in those closing seconds, just absolutely pathetic.

The Journal has it best - the Knicks don't come to every game with the attitude that they have to win it. They come with the attitude that they think they deserve it. Strictly a non-professional outlook. The leadership is not there. On all the teams that had greatness tags, the Celtics, Lakers and Bulls - there was always a leader, and there was always someone who took up the slack. This Knicks team does not have either one. When LJ was there, there was some of it, but not enough to be great. Patrick certainly did not have it, and now the only one who gives a damn is Spree. Certainly the $100 million man is not giving it to them... I think there are UltimateKnick forum attendees that could go out and spark the team.

Posted by knicksbabyyeah:

Hmm, so you think me with my 6'7" and very bad knee could make the team?

Would be great

6'7"? Man, if the Knicks got an exception for LJ I am sure they would have offered you a chunck.

The reason why there is no apparent leader because the only qualified candidate has been foolishly overlooked. To me it seems like a slap in the face that Spree was not made team co captian. So it makes you wonder how close he and Van Gundy really was because he didn't find it necassary to give Spree the nod either. The real question is what do our team look for in the so called captian and leader because I am certain we are not getting it from Allan alone. My take on the other issue is still the same and will always be the same. Kurt Thomas is a decent reserve or backup ,which ever one of those terms you would like to use, and that is it nothing more. I know that Camby is hurt and I am certainly not questioning his toughness but anyone who is a genuine Knick fan knows that we need Marcus to finish stronger than he finished last night. I hate to see him lay up the ball he is already there so dunk it it is a higher percentage shot and you award yourself a better oppurtunity to draw the foul around the basket. Flaskback , you guys remember the way he abused Muttumbo and the Hawks on our run to the finals, that is the Camby that we need

Posted by martin:



6'7"? Man, if the Knicks got an exception for LJ I am sure they would have offered you a chunck.

Hence the reason why I started playing ball, it isn't such a big sport in the Netherlands but ever since I was 6 or 7 people asked me if I played basketball. So eventually I did. My knee is surgically repaired though but running back on forth on the court agitates some muscle below the knee cap so it's hard for me to play a full season here, let alone in the states. I just play some for fun now and play some summer tournaments.

[Edited by - knicksbabyyeah on 12/21/2001 11:02:19]

I still like what our big three are doing, but it's obvious there's something missing. I think we need to make a solid move and pick up Brian Grant. Ward, Thomas, and Knight for Grant and Carter works capwise and a deal like that would help us a lot. Sprewell will be an all-star, Camby will eventually be an all-star, and Houston will always be boarderline, but it's finally becoming quite clear we don't have much else. Grant would help fill the void for now, but we still need to make more moves.