ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

So humor me. If it happens to be 4 fully guaranteed years, what is your stance? Even at 3 guaranteed it's still a pure gamble.

Four years is probably too long. I don't mind the salary, but I also don't think Noah is an Amar'e-like contract where the Knicks are signing at guy that only relies on athleticism to a contract after major injuries and after medical experts basically came out and said he couldn't play. Noah isn't an 82 game per year player, but if he can provide the 65-70 games played at 25 minutes of plus defense, passing and rebounding that he did as little as two years ago and during most of his career for the first two of these years and then transition to the backup-4/5 role, this will be a good deal.

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

So humor me. If it happens to be 4 fully guaranteed years, what is your stance? Even at 3 guaranteed it's still a pure gamble.

I won't like that its 4 years.

It's a gamble at 1 year, I don't even need it to be 4 years to say that.

you won't like it or its a gamble is not really coming out and stating that you think we made a bad move, no?

I don't like it but I get it.

Its a gamble but thats part of the ...

mreinman wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

So humor me. If it happens to be 4 fully guaranteed years, what is your stance? Even at 3 guaranteed it's still a pure gamble.

I won't like that its 4 years.

It's a gamble at 1 year, I don't even need it to be 4 years to say that.

you won't like it or its a gamble is not really coming out and stating that you think we made a bad move, no?

I don't like it but I get it.

Its a gamble but thats part of the ...

Of course.

Following professional sports has taught me to reserve judgment until something plays out and not as first blush.

And that's been before my position, as stated here consistently, LONG before Rose and Noah ever occurred to any of us.

Believe I said the same about Derrick Williams at the time.

Knickoftime wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

So humor me. If it happens to be 4 fully guaranteed years, what is your stance? Even at 3 guaranteed it's still a pure gamble.

I won't like that its 4 years.

It's a gamble at 1 year, I don't even need it to be 4 years to say that.

you won't like it or its a gamble is not really coming out and stating that you think we made a bad move, no?

I don't like it but I get it.

Its a gamble but thats part of the ...

Of course.

Following professional sports has taught me to reserve judgment until something plays out and not as first blush.

And that's been before my position, as stated here consistently, LONG before Rose and Noah ever occurred to any of us.

Believe I said the same about Derrick Williams at the time.

well let me use this opp to say that I was very wrong about DWil ... I am sad that we had zero upside with that move though. Would have been great if phil had a team option on Dwil or lance or even galloway. No upside ... isn't this now the same issue with Rose? Only downside, no upside? Whats our upside that if he has a solid year, kp may get some playoff exp? Or that next your maybe the Evan Turners of the world will choose us for 30 million per?

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

So humor me. If it happens to be 4 fully guaranteed years, what is your stance? Even at 3 guaranteed it's still a pure gamble.

I won't like that its 4 years.

It's a gamble at 1 year, I don't even need it to be 4 years to say that.

you won't like it or its a gamble is not really coming out and stating that you think we made a bad move, no?

I don't like it but I get it.

Its a gamble but thats part of the ...

Knickoftime finally said "gamble"!

And gambling is...boys and girls BAD.

So by transitive property, it's a bad PHUCKING move by Phil.

It's ok to be wrong, you know.

What's NOT a gamble in the NBA?

Signing James, Durant, etc to the max?

Those aren't gambles.

What else isn't?

Gambling on the 2017 draft and 2017 free agent class.

It's like shoving into the pot with pocket Aces against pocket Kings on a rainbow flop. It's the right play.

Rose, Gordon, Melo, KP, Noah is like holding 7-2 off suit and hoping to catch runner runner against pocket Queens. It's a bad bet.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

So humor me. If it happens to be 4 fully guaranteed years, what is your stance? Even at 3 guaranteed it's still a pure gamble.

I won't like that its 4 years.

It's a gamble at 1 year, I don't even need it to be 4 years to say that.

you won't like it or its a gamble is not really coming out and stating that you think we made a bad move, no?

I don't like it but I get it.

Its a gamble but thats part of the ...

Of course.

Following professional sports has taught me to reserve judgment until something plays out and not as first blush.

And that's been before my position, as stated here consistently, LONG before Rose and Noah ever occurred to any of us.

Believe I said the same about Derrick Williams at the time.

Derrick Williams was a gamble by Phil as well. And that was basically a push.

This time Phil is gambling with about 50 mill of salary instead of 5 mill, 20 of which is house money (Rose). Let's see if he can win on all 3 hands. Odds are definitely against him.

Yup, but he was dealt 16 and he has to play the hand. The odds weren't in his favor to start.

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

So humor me. If it happens to be 4 fully guaranteed years, what is your stance? Even at 3 guaranteed it's still a pure gamble.

I won't like that its 4 years.

It's a gamble at 1 year, I don't even need it to be 4 years to say that.

you won't like it or its a gamble is not really coming out and stating that you think we made a bad move, no?

I don't like it but I get it.

Its a gamble but thats part of the ...

Knickoftime finally said "gamble"!

And gambling is...boys and girls BAD.

So by transitive property, it's a bad PHUCKING move by Phil.

It's ok to be wrong, you know.

What's NOT a gamble in the NBA?

Signing James, Durant, etc to the max?

Those aren't gambles.

What else isn't?

Gambling on the 2017 draft and 2017 free agent class.

It's like shoving into the pot with pocket Aces against pocket Kings on a rainbow flop. It's the right play.

Rose, Gordon, Melo, KP, Noah is like holding 7-2 off suit and hoping to catch runner runner against pocket Queens. It's a bad bet.

You're a fan of a aggressive player who likes to play hands and not sit out. You're never going to change that.

And the draft is as big if not more a gamble than Noah. Least we know he can play.

The draft is a gamble, but next year less so than 2016. The 2017 promises to be of equal caliber or greater than the 2015 draft. Do a quick Google research and you'll see I'm right.

There's no Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingrams in next year's draft.

ChuckBuck wrote:

mreinman wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knickoftime wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:This thread should be locked as it'll mislead all the Knicks fans.

The latest numbers are 4 years $72m. All years guaranteed. With Mozgov verbal with Lakers, Phil will be backed into corner and concede to Noah's reps.

Basically we're phucked for 4 years.

Try-olling too hard.

LOL Try-olling, hilarious stuff.

What specifically about 4 years guaranteed of declining Noah is a good thing for this franchise?

I'll comment when that's a real thing.

Ahh, the ole hedge against one's self. Never fails.

Nope, it appears Noah will sign. When he does and the terms are known, ask me if you're inclined.

i just said I would.

So humor me. If it happens to be 4 fully guaranteed years, what is your stance? Even at 3 guaranteed it's still a pure gamble.

I won't like that its 4 years.

It's a gamble at 1 year, I don't even need it to be 4 years to say that.

you won't like it or its a gamble is not really coming out and stating that you think we made a bad move, no?

I don't like it but I get it.

Its a gamble but thats part of the ...

Knickoftime finally said "gamble"!

And gambling is...boys and girls BAD.

So by transitive property, it's a bad PHUCKING move by Phil.

It's ok to be wrong, you know.

You're the worst