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"Aren't looking at the future yet" is not true. Majority of Phils moves are for the present and future, especially this Rose trade.

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:When your star player is happy.....And other star players are now interested......It was a good trade.

"Aren't looking at the future yet" is not true. Majority of Phils moves are for the present and future, especially this Rose trade.

We will see who we get and what the team looks like. Its not a trade I would have made but I get it. If we can land another big fish, maybe not a monster fish like Durant, but a smaller one like Batum it looks even better.

Its a long offseason with plenty for Phil to execute one. Really hard to judge this move in a vacuum. It was done to set up or be a part of other moves. Lets see the big picture.

yup lets see. so far you said lets see what happens in the draft and nada ... I hope that he follows this up with some solid moves.

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:When your star player is happy.....And other star players are now interested......It was a good trade.

"Aren't looking at the future yet" is not true. Majority of Phils moves are for the present and future, especially this Rose trade.

We will see who we get and what the team looks like. Its not a trade I would have made but I get it. If we can land another big fish, maybe not a monster fish like Durant, but a smaller one like Batum it looks even better.

Its a long offseason with plenty for Phil to execute one. Really hard to judge this move in a vacuum. It was done to set up or be a part of other moves. Lets see the big picture.

yup lets see. so far you said lets see what happens in the draft and nada ... I hope that he follows this up with some solid moves.

This was not a draft I would have paid assets to get in to. It'd have been nice to buy a pick, but you have to assume they tried and couldn't get it done.

I think we know for a fact we'll get some pieces in FA. Just waiting to see who they might be.

We have heard that Noah and Jamal Crawford view the team more favorably with Rose. Could be others who feel the same.

I thought we would be more active in the draft. However I didn't see the kind of player movement or deals that suggested the Knicks should or could have been heavily involved in.

However the great value of Robin Lopez is something touted here by you mreinman and a couple others. If we saw anything from this draft (Thadeus Young trade) we learned Lopez's value is probably a late lottery mid #1, and there was not one player in this draft in that area I make that trade for.

Sure does look like Noah is coming...

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:When your star player is happy.....And other star players are now interested......It was a good trade.

"Aren't looking at the future yet" is not true. Majority of Phils moves are for the present and future, especially this Rose trade.

We will see who we get and what the team looks like. Its not a trade I would have made but I get it. If we can land another big fish, maybe not a monster fish like Durant, but a smaller one like Batum it looks even better.

Its a long offseason with plenty for Phil to execute one. Really hard to judge this move in a vacuum. It was done to set up or be a part of other moves. Lets see the big picture.

yup lets see. so far you said lets see what happens in the draft and nada ... I hope that he follows this up with some solid moves.

This was not a draft I would have paid assets to get in to. It'd have been nice to buy a pick, but you have to assume they tried and couldn't get it done.

I think we know for a fact we'll get some pieces in FA. Just waiting to see who they might be.

We have heard that Noah and Jamal Crawford view the team more favorably with Rose. Could be others who feel the same.

This.. and that.

I thought we would be more active in the draft. However I didn't see the kind of player movement or deals that suggested the Knicks should or could have been heavily involved in.

However the great value of Robin Lopez is something touted here by you mreinman and a couple others. If we saw anything from this draft (Thadeus Young trade) we learned Lopez's value is probably a late lottery mid #1, and there was not one player in this draft in that area I make that trade for.

Sure does look like Noah is coming...

I would say that is about right for what lopez was worth (in the draft). We could have also stashed the pick or traded for a better player.

Rose to me is a lose lose and we needed to bring back real value, not low pct hope that even if lightning strikes, we can't / shouldn't keep him since he will command crazy dangerous money.

So what is the gain? That he makes us more attractive to FA's who we are certain are pining to play with him? lets see ...

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:When your star player is happy.....And other star players are now interested......It was a good trade.

"Aren't looking at the future yet" is not true. Majority of Phils moves are for the present and future, especially this Rose trade.

We will see who we get and what the team looks like. Its not a trade I would have made but I get it. If we can land another big fish, maybe not a monster fish like Durant, but a smaller one like Batum it looks even better.

Its a long offseason with plenty for Phil to execute one. Really hard to judge this move in a vacuum. It was done to set up or be a part of other moves. Lets see the big picture.

yup lets see. so far you said lets see what happens in the draft and nada ... I hope that he follows this up with some solid moves.

This was not a draft I would have paid assets to get in to. It'd have been nice to buy a pick, but you have to assume they tried and couldn't get it done.

I think we know for a fact we'll get some pieces in FA. Just waiting to see who they might be.

We have heard that Noah and Jamal Crawford view the team more favorably with Rose. Could be others who feel the same.

This.. and that.

I thought we would be more active in the draft. However I didn't see the kind of player movement or deals that suggested the Knicks should or could have been heavily involved in.

However the great value of Robin Lopez is something touted here by you mreinman and a couple others. If we saw anything from this draft (Thadeus Young trade) we learned Lopez's value is probably a late lottery mid #1, and there was not one player in this draft in that area I make that trade for.

Sure does look like Noah is coming...

I would say that is about right for what lopez was worth (in the draft). We could have also stashed the pick or traded for a better player.

Rose to me is a lose lose and we needed to bring back real value, not low pct hope that even if lightning strikes, we can't / shouldn't keep him since he will command crazy dangerous money.

So what is the gain? That he makes us more attractive to FA's who we are certain are pining to play with him? lets see ...

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

mreinman wrote:

fishmike wrote:

blkexec wrote:When your star player is happy.....And other star players are now interested......It was a good trade.

"Aren't looking at the future yet" is not true. Majority of Phils moves are for the present and future, especially this Rose trade.

We will see who we get and what the team looks like. Its not a trade I would have made but I get it. If we can land another big fish, maybe not a monster fish like Durant, but a smaller one like Batum it looks even better.

Its a long offseason with plenty for Phil to execute one. Really hard to judge this move in a vacuum. It was done to set up or be a part of other moves. Lets see the big picture.

yup lets see. so far you said lets see what happens in the draft and nada ... I hope that he follows this up with some solid moves.

This was not a draft I would have paid assets to get in to. It'd have been nice to buy a pick, but you have to assume they tried and couldn't get it done.

I think we know for a fact we'll get some pieces in FA. Just waiting to see who they might be.

We have heard that Noah and Jamal Crawford view the team more favorably with Rose. Could be others who feel the same.

This.. and that.

I thought we would be more active in the draft. However I didn't see the kind of player movement or deals that suggested the Knicks should or could have been heavily involved in.

However the great value of Robin Lopez is something touted here by you mreinman and a couple others. If we saw anything from this draft (Thadeus Young trade) we learned Lopez's value is probably a late lottery mid #1, and there was not one player in this draft in that area I make that trade for.

Sure does look like Noah is coming...

I would say that is about right for what lopez was worth (in the draft). We could have also stashed the pick or traded for a better player.

Rose to me is a lose lose and we needed to bring back real value, not low pct hope that even if lightning strikes, we can't / shouldn't keep him since he will command crazy dangerous money.

So what is the gain? That he makes us more attractive to FA's who we are certain are pining to play with him? lets see ...

the gain is we got the best guard we could. We didn't need a center but those seem more attainable, at the very least there are more to choose from. For guards we were looking at Conley. After that its Jennings, Rondo, it gets bad fast... Knicks gained plenty. You cant see it now so I will spare you the nixluva charts and graphs and say you will just have to disagree with Phil on this one and see how it pans out.

yes ... we will wait and see which way we lose in the lose lose

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Player	        Team GP W  L  MIN  DRIVES  FGM  FGA  FG%  FTM  FTA  FT%  PTS  PTS%  PASS  PASS%  AST  AST%  TO  TO%  PF  PF%
Eric Bledsoe    PHX  31	12 19 34.2 11.7    2.3	4.9  46.4 1.6  1.9  86.4 6.2  53.2  4.5   38.0   1.1  9.4   1.1 9.1  1.3 11.3
Isaiah Thomas   BOS  81	47 34 32.2 11.7    2.6  5.8  45.4 2.4  2.9  83.7 7.6  65.2  3.8   32.7   1.0  8.9   0.7 5.9  1.9 15.8
DeMar DeRozan   TOR  77	52 25 35.9 11.6    2.9  5.8  50.6 2.8  3.4  83.0 8.7  74.4  3.7   31.4   0.9  8.1   0.5 4.0  2.2 18.5
Jeff Teague     ATL  79	47 32 28.5 11.1    2.4	5.2  45.7 1.7  2.0  82.9 6.4  57.5  4.0   36.3   0.9  8.3   0.8 7.0  1.2 11.1
Ish Smith       PHI  77	16 61 29.1 11.1    2.2  5.0  44.6 0.6  1.0  63.5 5.1  45.6  5.1   45.6   1.4  12.6  0.6 5.1  0.7 6.3
Reggie Jackson  DET  79	43 36 30.7 10.6    3.0  6.1  49.0 1.5  1.7  86.9 7.5  70.0  2.9   27.3   0.9  8.2   0.7 6.9  1.1 10.5
Tyreke Evans    NOP  25	11 14 30.6 10.4    2.3	5.2  43.8 1.9  2.2  85.5 6.4  61.7  3.2   30.3   0.8  8.0   0.9 8.8  1.2 11.9
Russ Westbrook  OKC  80	55 25 34.4 10.1    2.4	4.8  50.7 2.3  2.8  82.1 7.1  70.7  3.2   31.5   1.1  11.0  0.8 7.6  1.7 17.1
Rajon Rondo     SAC  71	29 42 35.4 9.9     2.1	4.1  50.7 0.4  0.7  54.2 4.5  45.7  4.3   43.0   1.4  14.1  1.0 10.1 0.5 4.8
Jrue Holiday    NOP  65	27 38 28.2 9.8     2.7	5.3  50.4 1.6  1.9  86.1 6.9  71.0  3.0   30.7   0.8  8.7   0.5	4.9  1.2 12.3
Damian Lillard  POR  75	40 35 35.7 9.8     2.7	5.5  48.2 2.5  2.7  91.1 7.8  79.4  2.4   24.3   0.8  7.9   0.5	5.4  1.6 16.4
Kyle Lowry      TOR  76	53 23 36.9 9.5     1.9  4.4  44.3 1.5  1.8  84.2 5.4  56.4  3.4   35.3   1.1  11.5  0.6	6.8  1.2 12.3
Goran Dragic    MIA  72	44 28 32.8 9.4     1.8  3.4  52.8 0.7  1.0  70.4 4.4  46.2  4.6   48.8   1.3  14.1  0.8	8.1  0.6 6.8
James Harden    HOU  82	41 41 38.1 9.4     2.1	4.3  49.6 2.9  3.4  86.0 7.2  76.6  2.5   26.5   0.9  9.2   0.9	9.4  2.1 22.2
Derrick Rose    CHI  66	32 34 31.8 8.9     2.8	5.5  51.0 1.3  1.7  76.1 6.9  76.9  2.1   23.3   0.6  6.5   0.6	7.1  1.0 11.5