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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/26/2016 3:44 PM
I found a very insightful article on how Rose showed improvement this year. It's got so many charts and videos that you really should read the original article.
http://www.chicagonow.com/chicago-bulls-confidential/2016/02/derrick-rose-attack-mode/ Here is a snippet from the article. Not only is he attempting more-or-less, the same amount of shots close to the basket, he's attempting more shots in the mid-range area (11-14 ft) in January than his season average. Per NBA.com SportVU data, Rose averages 9.3 drives per game, but over the month of January, that number has dipped slightly to 9.0. His average speed on offense over the course of the season is 4.62 miles per hour, but only 4.51 mph in January. Rose isn't attacking with more aggression or speed or explosiveness. He's just started making his shots. |
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EwingsGlass
Posts: 26117 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 4/29/2005 Member: #893 USA |
6/26/2016 4:59 PM
I'm fond of his back story and quote clips. I think this will work out for us.
This is the Randle.
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VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
6/26/2016 6:01 PM
If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January:
February: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201565/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Month=5 50% within 5ft of the basekt; 52% in the restricted area March: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201565/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Month=6 48% within 5ft of the basekt; 46% in the restricted area April: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201565/stats/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&Month=7 30% within 5ft; 25% in the restricted area Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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NardDogNation
Posts: 27313 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 5/7/2013 Member: #5555 |
6/26/2016 6:16 PM
VCoug wrote:If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January: Serious question, is that encouraging? Not trying to be a smart ass but I'm just curious. Maybe I'm being a little jaded but this improvement (from God awful) seemed to only occur over 28-36 games. I don't find this to be terribly encouraging when you consider the market at PG, what we gave up and where we want this team to be. |
nixluva
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6/26/2016 6:23 PM
NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January: What Market at PG??? Pretty much the "market" is Conley. A lot of the other PG's are OK but not what you'd call high upside guys. We gave up RoLo! As good as he was he is replaceable. We needed a PG more than we needed RoLo. Rose fits where this team wants to go as long as he's healthy. Right now he's healthy and hopefully he remains so. |
NardDogNation
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6/26/2016 6:36 PM LAST EDITED: 6/26/2016 6:36 PM
nixluva wrote:NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January:
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nixluva
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6/26/2016 6:44 PM
NardDogNation wrote:nixluva wrote:NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January: I would expect that ALL Knick fans are rooting for Rose to have a great season!!! So yeah we can check back at the end of the season. Hopefully it's a long playoff run. I can understand having doubts but for me you don't lose your skill due to simply to having ACL or Meniscus surgery. You lose it due to not having proper time to prepare and work on your conditioning, skills and timing. Rose is trying to get his skills back to an acceptable level. If he's not having knee pain and can play then he's gonna be able to work on and refine his skills. That's what he's doing this summer. So IMO it's not about talent as much as it is building up his conditioning and working on his skills. |
VCoug
Posts: 24935 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 3/28/2007 Member: #1406 |
6/26/2016 7:01 PM
NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January: Fuck no, it's terrible. I'll have to try and find it again but I believe a league average player shoots 60%+ when shooting at the rim. Rose has been awful for 4 years now and nothing he did last year suggests he's getting better. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/26/2016 8:03 PM LAST EDITED: 6/26/2016 8:06 PM
VCoug wrote:NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January: I really want to help everyone get the clearest idea of what Rose was doing offensively and the NBA.com Stats are EXTREMELY detailed. So here we have the 3 months where Rose showed improvement and just so we're clear i'm suggesting that he can be better than this after a full summer of work and no surgery. He has to improve no doubt but he was not as bad as many are trying to make it out to be. Only when you add in the rough 2 months at the start does it really skew the numbers badly. Note that the Jump Shots include 3's so it looks worse than it is. Just check his 3pt % separately. He's not a great shooter but he was better from 3 in March.
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VCoug
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6/26/2016 8:19 PM
nixluva wrote:VCoug wrote:NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January: He shot under 50% at the rim in February and March. Average is 60%, elite is 70%. Under 50% is awful. Here, http://stats.nba.com/league/player/#!/shooting/?Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&DistanceRange=By%20Zone&sort=Restricted%20Area%20FG%20PCT&dir=1&PlayerPosition=G&SeasonSegment=Post%20All-Star, post-AllStar break he's ranked 167th amongs guards it FG% in the restricted area in that timeframe. Now the joy of my world is in Zion
How beautiful if nothing more
Than to wait at Zion's door
I've never been in love like this before
Now let me pray to keep you from
The perils that will surely come
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
6/26/2016 9:35 PM
VCoug wrote:nixluva wrote:VCoug wrote:NardDogNation wrote:VCoug wrote:If only there was someway to look at what Rose's FG% was at the rim for the rest of the year after January: Yes he shot 48% at the rim but that is only one aspect of his game close to the rim. There's also scoring in the paint outside the Restricted area. Rose is one of the Top guards in the league at getting to the rim! He's also one of the most efficient in the Paint outside the Restricted Area. After the All Star Break These are the top Penetrators for 2015-16 Entire Season Restricted In The Paint I Believe that Rose can improve on these full season numbers. Being fully healthy and in better condition will really help him in this area. |