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BRIGGS
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6/25/2016  11:18 AM
Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard
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6/25/2016  11:20 AM
even i would be on board with that!
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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6/25/2016  11:22 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

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6/25/2016  11:23 AM
callmened wrote:even i would be on board with that!

The Knicks are intent on scooping up as many 24 year old 5 yr seniors as they can -- 19 is to young no time to develop

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6/25/2016  11:28 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

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6/25/2016  11:29 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

I dont believe that is true at all... there is some time period a team has rights. Thanasis wasnt on the 15 man and he was still a player only we had rights to, at least the first year
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6/25/2016  11:37 AM
I'm trying to figure out why Philly or the Lakers won't pick him up.... I wonder if anyone in Milwaukee is crying themselves to sleep over undrafted free agents?
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6/25/2016  11:42 AM
EnySpree wrote:I'm trying to figure out why Philly or the Lakers won't pick him up.... I wonder if anyone in Milwaukee is crying themselves to sleep over undrafted free agents?

They have allotments of 20 year old players. We have none. Of course you can tell by our record over the last 17 years that we are the superior thinkers of the nba

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6/25/2016  11:45 AM
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

I dont believe that is true at all... there is some time period a team has rights. Thanasis wasnt on the 15 man and he was still a player only we had rights to, at least the first year

He was drafted by the Knicks.

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6/25/2016  11:47 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

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6/25/2016  11:50 AM
fishmike wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

I dont believe that is true at all... there is some time period a team has rights. Thanasis wasnt on the 15 man and he was still a player only we had rights to, at least the first year

Clarence Gaines drafted him we had his rights like early thansis laberdyie. Jones we'd have to ideas a roster spot but given the fact that we have zero in the pipeline and the reality that we only need 14 slots it would be a savvy move for the future

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6/25/2016  11:53 AM
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BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

You're right because we only have a bunch of 25 year old players who were only pretty good in college. I haven't seen any 19 yo 6-7 McDonald all Americans who made sports center several times on their roster have you?

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6/25/2016  11:55 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

You're right because we only have a bunch of 25 year old players who were only pretty good in college. I haven't seen any 19 yo 6-7 McDonald all Americans who made sports center several times on their roster have you?

Well no.

The vast majority of those gets drafted, of course.

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6/25/2016  11:57 AM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

You're right because we only have a bunch of 25 year old players who were only pretty good in college. I haven't seen any 19 yo 6-7 McDonald all Americans who made sports center several times on their roster have you?

Well no.

The vast majority of those gets drafted, of course.

You got it. So take advantage that he didnt

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6/25/2016  11:57 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/25/2016  11:58 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
EnySpree wrote:I'm trying to figure out why Philly or the Lakers won't pick him up.... I wonder if anyone in Milwaukee is crying themselves to sleep over undrafted free agents?

They have allotments of 20 year old players. We have none. Of course you can tell by our record over the last 17 years that we are the superior thinkers of the nba

Are you dissing the Knicks or the fanbase?

The only history that matters for us is what happened the last 2 years under Phil Jackson. So far the guy has been doing a fine job. If you want 20 year olds, park your car across the street from the Hofstra dormitory... there's a spot next to my car. Hurry before Someone takes the spot

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6/25/2016  12:07 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

You're right because we only have a bunch of 25 year old players who were only pretty good in college. I haven't seen any 19 yo 6-7 McDonald all Americans who made sports center several times on their roster have you?

Well no.

The vast majority of those gets drafted, of course.

You got it. So take advantage that he didnt

Maybe there is a reason the other 29 teams aren't either.

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6/25/2016  12:08 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

You're right because we only have a bunch of 25 year old players who were only pretty good in college. I haven't seen any 19 yo 6-7 McDonald all Americans who made sports center several times on their roster have you?

Well no.

The vast majority of those gets drafted, of course.

You got it. So take advantage that he didnt

Maybe there is a reason the other 29 teams aren't either.

That's the thought process of a follower not a leader

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6/25/2016  12:15 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

You're right because we only have a bunch of 25 year old players who were only pretty good in college. I haven't seen any 19 yo 6-7 McDonald all Americans who made sports center several times on their roster have you?

Well no.

The vast majority of those gets drafted, of course.

You got it. So take advantage that he didnt

Maybe there is a reason the other 29 teams aren't either.

That's the thought process of a follower not a leader

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6/25/2016  12:26 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

You're right because we only have a bunch of 25 year old players who were only pretty good in college. I haven't seen any 19 yo 6-7 McDonald all Americans who made sports center several times on their roster have you?

Well no.

The vast majority of those gets drafted, of course.

You got it. So take advantage that he didnt

Maybe there is a reason the other 29 teams aren't either.

That's the thought process of a follower not a leader

Sure, that defines Phil Jackson to a 't.'

He takes his direction from others.

Let's go with that.

Of course Jones didn't hire an agent (on purpose), so he clearly is leaving his options open to return to UNLV if he was not drafted, assuming his eligibility is cleared up.

So perhaps instead of couching the fact the Knicks haven't signed him to a contract less than 48 hours since draft as an indictment, maybe consider there are thing we don't know.

No team regarded him worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.

Maybe because of that fact, he plans to try to return to school.

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6/25/2016  12:42 PM
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Knickoftime wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:Why wouldn't they want to groom. A 19 year old 6-7 g-f who was a top 3 athlete in the draft? You put him in Westchester for the year and develop him. The Knicks now have very little in the cupboard

As you know unless he's on your 15 man roster, you aren't really grooming anyone. You're grooming them for everyone.

We had only 14 men on roster last year. Wasted a spot. Not 1 player in the world worth developing

Of their Westchester Knicks roster, who has stuck with the team?

If there was some gem from Westchester who never got added to the Knicks 15 man roster and was snatched away by another team, you'd have an argument.

You're right because we only have a bunch of 25 year old players who were only pretty good in college. I haven't seen any 19 yo 6-7 McDonald all Americans who made sports center several times on their roster have you?

Well no.

The vast majority of those gets drafted, of course.

You got it. So take advantage that he didnt

Maybe there is a reason the other 29 teams aren't either.

That's the thought process of a follower not a leader

Sure, that defines Phil Jackson to a 't.'

He takes his direction from others.

Let's go with that.

Of course Jones didn't hire an agent (on purpose), so he clearly is leaving his options open to return to UNLV if he was not drafted, assuming his eligibility is cleared up.

So perhaps instead of couching the fact the Knicks haven't signed him to a contract less than 48 hours since draft as an indictment, maybe consider there are thing we don't know.

No team regarded him worth a 1st or 2nd round pick.

Maybe because of that fact, he plans to try to return to school.

You clearly just read up on him in the last 5 minutes so let me help you. He CANNOT go back to school he opted to stay in the draft and once you opt to stay in you are in regardless of hiring an agent or not. For the record Jones DID hire an agent anyway. His college entrance exams came into question and he was forced to the sidelines just at a point that he was taking off as a player on both sides of the floor. I watched several UNLV games and you could see he was really turning a corner to another level of play and then bang he's out. When he went down that's when McCaw really started taking off as well. McCaw was good all season and more well rounded than Jones ( I wrote all year I liked them both) Just my opinion but it would be like a free first rd draft pick next year if we have him a 1 yr run. What's the downside ? Having Lou admins son as player 15?

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