Malcolm wrote:

dacash wrote:i think Anthony Bennett could replace dwill
we need shooting guards/ combo guards

(1) "we need shooting guards/ combo guards" -- Yes, we all agree.

(2) "i think Anthony Bennett could replace dwill" -- Huh (?) When
did Bennett get a year's experience in the Triangle (?) Did I miss
when that happened (?)

EnySpree wrote:

Malcolm wrote:

dacash wrote:i think Anthony Bennett could replace dwill
we need shooting guards/ combo guards

(1) "we need shooting guards/ combo guards" -- Yes, we all agree.

(2) "i think Anthony Bennett could replace dwill" -- Huh (?) When
did Bennett get a year's experience in the Triangle (?) Did I miss
when that happened (?)

So we can only sign players that played in the triangle before? If that's your logic than Matt Barnes even at his age would be a great replacement for Derrick Williams. Unless you got a plan to trade for Trevor Ariza, complaining about getting a player with Triangle experience sounds flat out ignorant. Besides we got Jeff Hornacek coaching the team next year.

Before we added Hornacek, the past two years have basically proven either we've had bad teacher's of the triangle or you needed time in the system. Or we had low IQ players. I think it was a combo of the three.

Regardless, I'm relieved to have a real coach, because we can better understand any failures as on our players and talent, and less on the coach and system.

Unless of course Phil is tampering behind the scenes with Hornacek and forcing him to run something out of character

EwingsGlass wrote:Opting out doesn't mean leaving. DWill may still resign. Will want more than a 1 year commitment. Probably more money. Afflalo wants a starting role. He should be able to find that somewhere.

He made 4 million last year... we can't afford a guy making more than that if he isn't going to start for us.... 6 million maybe. When it starts to get to the 8-10 million we just have to tip our hat to the guy.

I mentioned Jared Dudley. He seems like a dude that would come in and do whatever you need him to do. He made 4 million last year too. At 30 years old and zero upside, he's not getting more than that.

EnySpree wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:Opting out doesn't mean leaving. DWill may still resign. Will want more than a 1 year commitment. Probably more money. Afflalo wants a starting role. He should be able to find that somewhere.

He made 4 million last year... we can't afford a guy making more than that if he isn't going to start for us.... 6 million maybe. When it starts to get to the 8-10 million we just have to tip our hat to the guy.

I mentioned Jared Dudley. He seems like a dude that would come in and do whatever you need him to do. He made 4 million last year too. At 30 years old and zero upside, he's not getting more than that.

If I were Derrick, I would ask for another 1 and 1 contract. Probably closer to 8mm. That said, he should stick with the Knicks even for a couple dollars less. I don't want to sound like a kool aid machine, but he could be a 6th man of the year. Walking into next year's cap situation, it's not a bad place to get his minutes.

I think of Bennett in the same sense as DWill. A reclamation project. Give Bennett a 1 and 1 contract also.

Gallo/Bennett/DWill/ has the potential for a good high energy second unit.

BRIGGS wrote:Is going to put pressure on the Knicks. We can say whatever we want but that's nearly 25 points on a a bad offensive team. We do have 30 mm to spend but we have no tru staring 2 g no true starting pg we lost a double digit scorer off the bench. If anything this will put pressure on the Knicks it will be difficult to find a replacement that easy

$30 million is more than enough to replace 25 points and then some. I think we all wouldn't mind having DW back and think Phil will at least throw him a 3/4 year offer around $7/$8 mil per or maybe even less so we'll see if he wants to play with us and go through this retool with us which is close to being done and having him would be a good piece.

in terms of depth: wroten/jose, gallo, lance,oquinn and willie g are justfine off the bench

starters: grant, (insert must get SG), melo, kp and rolo

BRIGGS wrote:So if we give Conley 21 mm ( which I'm totally against) and D will the Mle that's the team

Knicks have $33M in cap space.

The MLE is $12M now?

Also, Conley would absolutely make this team a playoffs team.

And we can still stretch Jose or he comes off the cap in 2017 when the cap also rises another $20M to $110M. So we'd have $12M this summer to either re-sign DWill or add a shooting guard.

$12M more in FA money
Conley / Grant / Wroten
Galloway
Melo / Lance
KP
Rolo / Hernangomez

Then next summer we have a 2017 first rounder + $25M in cap room next season to add to that.

It may not be the best plan in the world, but it's not terrible either.

And, yes, the Blazers will match Crabbe.

I find it hilarious that you advocate giving Crabbe $17M and Seth Curry $11M for a total of $28M, neither are proven, signing both would mean we lose DWill.

But when it comes to signing proven near all-star two-way PG Mike Conley 28 years old to $21M which would allow us to re-sign DWill and add a SG as well... then it's too much money.