Knickoftime wrote:Sure, sure.

D-League team is having a nice game and not a single comment. That's how we roll.

I see you Ultimateknicks fans.

Can't see the game. Can you provide details?

Knickoftime wrote:Sure, sure.

D-League team is having a nice game and not a single comment. That's how we roll.

I see you Ultimateknicks fans.

I was disappointed in the level of play the last 2 games. I taped it but was considering skipping it. Now that you say they are having a good game I will watch.

Baker does not look like an NBA player to me at all.

WaltLongmire wrote:Randle making a case for himself...looks loose and confident.

You guys are missing the boat on Baker though. The Knicks know whether or not he can shoot from their practices, but he is a heady player who is a tough defender and team player.

He will make training camp...believe me.

Baker has been scrappy and got a couple key steals at the end of regulation to send game to OT. Another steal in the OT. Feisty defender with good hands. Like that.

WaltLongmire wrote:Randle making a case for himself...looks loose and confident.

You guys are missing the boat on Baker though. The Knicks know whether or not he can shoot from their practices, but he is a heady player who is a tough defender and team player.

He will make training camp...believe me.

Until the last minute the guy was shooting 17% from the field through 3 games with 1-13 from 3 a lot of sloppy ballhandling and poor passing. He got bipped twice today and looks nothing like an NBA athlete. The only luck the Knicks had there was the Clippers had no guards--although they have two big time big men they drafted--They must be ecstatic.

BRIGGS wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Randle making a case for himself...looks loose and confident.

You guys are missing the boat on Baker though. The Knicks know whether or not he can shoot from their practices, but he is a heady player who is a tough defender and team player.

He will make training camp...believe me.

Until the last minute the guy was shooting 17% from the field through 3 games with 1-13 from 3 a lot of sloppy ballhandling and poor passing. He got bipped twice today and looks nothing like an NBA athlete. The only luck the Knicks had there was the Clippers had no guards--although they have two big time big men they drafted--They must be ecstatic.

Briggs- if the guy doesn't hit his shots he's not going to make it...I know that.

He's a better passer than you think, but again, these guys are trying to play system ball, and it sometimes looks like they are forcing things. I've seen the same with Galloway, before.

This is the issue I have with forcing rookies to play the Triangle...a new offense for most players- it puts them at a disadvantage against teams playing traditional offenses.

You saw him make some good passes today- I expect to see him invited to training camp and we will see what happens then.

Also happy and intrigued with Randle- will be interesting to see how he progresses the next few games.

BRIGGS wrote:Forbes another 3 guys has 8 3s in 2 games and missed only 4 times. I begged to get him and we took Baker??

Briggs...you do know that a UFA and his agent also have a say in where they go. For all you know he chose SA for this or that reason over the Knicks or other teams. Maybe he feared the wrath of UK posters...who knows?

We are not privy to what is going on behind the scenes...or at least I'm not.

BRIGGS wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Forbes another 3 guys has 8 3s in 2 games and missed only 4 times. I begged to get him and we took Baker??

Briggs...you do know that a UFA and his agent also have a say in where they go. For all you know he chose SA for this or that reason over the Knicks or other teams. Maybe he feared the wrath of UK posters...who knows?

We are not privy to what is going on behind the scenes...or at least I'm not.

$$$ thats the language that speaks to the agent. Bryn said that he had guaranteed money from Philly and SA for the full year. Right now I guarantee that a few teams who need shooting are probably scratching their heads. Just looking at Baker--he looks like it will take time in development leagues to adjust to the longer 3. It was a natural shot for Bryn who has has seamlessly transitioned. The thing that you like watching bryn was the defense use of the floater and step in mid range .

Ill say this about Christian Wood--hes as good as what we saw with Brice Johnson today if not better because he seems to be better in the low block. Yet he also has range out to 3. He lifted weights and put on 20 pounds--he looked much bigger. The guy is a steal from the PF position and he can help in every area rebounding interior offense and dfense stretching the floor--he has oodles of talent and he is playing much harder than last year.

When I see a guy come out to early and I can see what he is I say this is a lottery pick next year. Just in the last two years I think I pegged Grayson Allen and Christian Wood. I also think Derrick Jones wouldve been a lottery pick and I had Diamond Stone 17th in my mock. If you want to try to make something out of a Ronny Baker--good luck--but the 14-15 slots should be for a higher plain. The older guys I picked Bryn Forbes Georges Niang--how have they fared so far? Pretty good. Im on the hook for Malcolm Brogdon well see what he can do.

6'3 with shoes, not a great vertical, small wingspan...His stats say that he is a limited rebounder, not a great passer, rarely makes steals, but a darn good shooter.

He is not a PG from what I know, and his wingspan will not compensate for his lack of size at the 2.

He is basically a miniature version of Steve Novak, more or less...no?

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Forbes another 3 guys has 8 3s in 2 games and missed only 4 times. I begged to get him and we took Baker??

Briggs...you do know that a UFA and his agent also have a say in where they go. For all you know he chose SA for this or that reason over the Knicks or other teams. Maybe he feared the wrath of UK posters...who knows?

We are not privy to what is going on behind the scenes...or at least I'm not.

$$$ thats the language that speaks to the agent. Bryn said that he had guaranteed money from Philly and SA for the full year. Right now I guarantee that a few teams who need shooting are probably scratching their heads. Just looking at Baker--he looks like it will take time in development leagues to adjust to the longer 3. It was a natural shot for Bryn who has has seamlessly transitioned. The thing that you like watching bryn was the defense use of the floater and step in mid range .

Ill say this about Christian Wood--hes as good as what we saw with Brice Johnson today if not better because he seems to be better in the low block. Yet he also has range out to 3. He lifted weights and put on 20 pounds--he looked much bigger. The guy is a steal from the PF position and he can help in every area rebounding interior offense and dfense stretching the floor--he has oodles of talent and he is playing much harder than last year.

When I see a guy come out to early and I can see what he is I say this is a lottery pick next year. Just in the last two years I think I pegged Grayson Allen and Christian Wood. I also think Derrick Jones wouldve been a lottery pick and I had Diamond Stone 17th in my mock. If you want to try to make something out of a Ronny Baker--good luck--but the 14-15 slots should be for a higher plain. The older guys I picked Bryn Forbes Georges Niang--how have they fared so far? Pretty good. Im on the hook for Malcolm Brogdon well see what he can do.

What is Forbes' position, Briggs.

6'3 with shoes, not a great vertical, small wingspan...His stats say that he is a limited rebounder, not a great passer, rarely makes steals, but a darn good shooter.

He is not a PG from what I know, and his wingspan will not compensate for his lack of size at the 2.

He is basically a miniature version of Steve Novak, more or less...no?

He's an elite type 3 point shooter who understands the nuances of the game. He's explosive accurate and plays with great passion. Over time he can transition into a combo guard but right now he's doing what he's good at making shots

If you honestly watched Baker and Forbes all year and walked away thinking Baker was superior this is not your niche