rmears718 wrote:I know that this is the Knick forum...But the Cavaliers are being exposed for the upcoming season...Please all note that the Warriors have brought a bit of the '90's basketball back to the game. Please all note that Draymond & Igondola are playing "real" defense on LeBron- now he wants to pick a fight with Curry. There is hope yet - for Knicks fans. The fake King - is no more !!!!!!! Mic drop !!!!!

6 finals in a row. Yeah he's terrible and of course the Knicks are great.

Besides Kyrie, the Cavs other players have not helped consistently in this series. The Warriors have taken away all those open 3's the Cavs were killing teams with. JR, Kyrie, Love and Frye were KILLIN it from 3 against the East teams.

Frye, however, has provided a huge spark. As you can see in the visualization above, the veteran has made nearly 70% of his treys above the break—a truly absurd hot streak even in a small sample size.

He’s been a menace for opposing teams in pick-and-pop scenarios, flashing out above the three-point arc after setting screens for Kyrie Irving and others on the perimeter. Give Cleveland’s front office a lot of credit for going out and trading for his shooting and playoff experience earlier this year, because it’s paying big dividends.

Hot Hands Galore

Frye isn’t the only Cavalier raining down from beyond the arc. Irving, Love and J.R. Smith have all been virtually automatic from downtown, which has been the biggest reason why Cleveland remains undefeated in the playoffs through nine games.

All three guys are lighting it up like the rim is the size of a hula hoop. Even Smith, who cashed in on 40% of his three-point attempts during the regular season (tied for No. 21 in the league among qualified shooters), is somehow making them count at an even more efficient clip.

Even though Cleveland had a modest showing from three-point territory in Game 1, the hot shooting in the playoffs overall is a terrible omen for Toronto. During the regular season, only the lowly Phoenix Suns surrendered a worse opponent three-point percentage (37.7%) than the Raptors (37.3%).
Now, part of that equation is obviously poor luck; but perimeter defense plays a part, too. The Cavs didn’t need a barrage of threes to bury the Raptors by more than 30 points to start this series. So, what happens if they once they fire on all cylinders from deep? It’s safe to say Toronto doesn’t want to find out the answer to that question.

rmears718 wrote:To : Nixluva... You point regarding Draymond & Igoudola- hits the nail on the head...It's not to take away from LeBron's greatness...It's about gravity & the "chickens coming home to roost"- Great team vs. an a NBA manufactured Superstar.

I actually like the way the Knicks are being constructed with some post scoring mixed in with what I hope are some 3pt shooters they can add this summer and after. We have more versatile players in Melo and KP. They can score from anywhere on the floor and once we build up the rest of the squad it should make the Knicks a much tougher team to defend than Cleveland. Of course that's the goal that Phil is trying to achieve and they have a LOT of work to do in order to realize that goal, but you can see the basis for how this Knicks team could be built.

Panos wrote:Lebron may not even be the greatest player of his own time (Curry?) , nevermind of all time. Time will tell, but 2 rings cannot justify the GOAT crown.

Lebron is at minimal one level above Curry on defense. Curry isn't a level above Lebron on offense. Lebron has elevated average put together teams to be 50+ win teams. Curry has yet to be in that type of situation.

There are way to many elements that go into winning a championship to rate players by how many chips they won.

BRIGGS wrote:

rmears718 wrote:I know that this is the Knick forum...But the Cavaliers are being exposed for the upcoming season...Please all note that the Warriors have brought a bit of the '90's basketball back to the game. Please all note that Draymond & Igondola are playing "real" defense on LeBron- now he wants to pick a fight with Curry. There is hope yet - for Knicks fans. The fake King - is no more !!!!!!! Mic drop !!!!!

6 finals in a row. Yeah he's terrible and of course the Knicks are great.

Always choosing his destinations. Six finals in a row if in the West he reaches 2 finals as those are his, Wade and Bosh's victories. Honestly the east is so damn weak it's pathetic he can't help not win it because he chooses his stacked team to join.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Panos wrote:Lebron may not even be the greatest player of his own time (Curry?) , nevermind of all time. Time will tell, but 2 rings cannot justify the GOAT crown.

Lebron is at minimal one level above Curry on defense. Curry isn't a level above Lebron on offense. Lebron has elevated average put together teams to be 50+ win teams. Curry has yet to be in that type of situation.

There are way to many elements that go into winning a championship to rate players by how many chips they won.

Average put together teams?! He played with 2 all stars in Miami, and 2 all stars now on the Cavs. Veteran players take minimal deals to play in on his stacked teams. he has more influence than anyone in the NBA who plays on his teams. How on earth are you going to give him a pass on average put together teams?! What a joke!

Panos wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Panos wrote:Lebron may not even be the greatest player of his own time (Curry?) , nevermind of all time. Time will tell, but 2 rings cannot justify the GOAT crown.

Lebron is at minimal one level above Curry on defense. Curry isn't a level above Lebron on offense. Lebron has elevated average put together teams to be 50+ win teams. Curry has yet to be in that type of situation.

There are way to many elements that go into winning a championship to rate players by how many chips they won.

Average put together teams?! He played with 2 all stars in Miami, and 2 all stars now on the Cavs. Veteran players take minimal deals to play in on his stacked teams. he has more influence than anyone in the NBA who plays on his teams. How on earth are you going to give him a pass on average put together teams?! What a joke!

Before that, when he left to Miami the Cavs won 19 games. They won 61 games the season prior with Lebron. He went to his first finals with Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Ilgouskas, Eric Snow, Sasha Pavlavic, Damon Jones, Donney Marshall, Daniel Gibson.

Panos wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Panos wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Panos wrote:Lebron may not even be the greatest player of his own time (Curry?) , nevermind of all time. Time will tell, but 2 rings cannot justify the GOAT crown.

Lebron is at minimal one level above Curry on defense. Curry isn't a level above Lebron on offense. Lebron has elevated average put together teams to be 50+ win teams. Curry has yet to be in that type of situation.

There are way to many elements that go into winning a championship to rate players by how many chips they won.

Average put together teams?! He played with 2 all stars in Miami, and 2 all stars now on the Cavs. Veteran players take minimal deals to play in on his stacked teams. he has more influence than anyone in the NBA who plays on his teams. How on earth are you going to give him a pass on average put together teams?! What a joke!

Before that, when he left to Miami the Cavs won 19 games. They won 61 games the season prior with Lebron. He went to his first finals with Larry Hughes, Drew Gooden, Ilgouskas, Eric Snow, Sasha Pavlavic, Damon Jones, Donney Marshall, Daniel Gibson.

That was 7 years ago. He's been on stacked teams the last 6 years.

When I stated that he has elevated average put together teams. I don't remember a timeline being attached to it. Every team that has won a chip has been stacked, including all the greats from the past.

Warriors teams have been more stacked then Cavs teams. Him losing to the Warriors is not underachievement.