I'm torn between good and neutral, but I think Nazy and TT both have more upside and trade value than Doleac and TT; so I think it was a slightly good trade

I think it was a good trade. Isiah traded Keith when Keith had the most value he was ever going to have. Tim is a prototypical small forward. Keith is a forward who must swing between the small and power slots depending on matchups. To me, that game in Milwaukee will always be the referendum on the trade. First half: KVH 18pts, TT: 2pts. Second half: KVH 0 pts, TT 18pts. Knicks come back from 26 to win. TT's playoff 'fugazy' moment is much maligned, but did anyone notice KVH playoff numbers? They were ugly.

I would do the TT/KVH trade straight up. Getting the solid Nazr back was gravy.

There are some who would say that if KVH stayed during the season, the record would've been better and the Knicks could've gotten the 4 seed. I don't buy it. For one thing, KVH got injured in MIL. For another, Mutombo went down for two months with a stomach surgery (which may have been a big reason Zeke made the trade to get Nazr). Where would the Knicks have been with no KVH, Deke or Allan? Out of the playoffs and Isiah would've been branded a failure (unfairly, but still).

Tim Thomas saved the season when he laced up against Portland with an injury and put up 26 and when he outdueled Van Horn in Milwaukee. I'd do the trade over a thousand times. It will look even better at the one year mark. I do miss Doleac though.

I like it. We obviously got a new starting center out of the deal (who imo is a GREAT BACKUP center, if we hopefully get Damps).
After seeing both KVH and TT play, I'd give the nod to Timmy. As crzy already mentioned, the Milwaukee game basically summed the whole thing up. They had pretty similar stats, but TT came through when the Knicks needed it, and KVH choked (I know we're all surprised by that )

KVH didn't propel us to a championship. TT and nazr dan't do it either.

Only thing that counts is "who will that trade help us to get ?"

it was a wash as far as i'm concerned, unless Isiah can use TT or Nazr to trade for another piece to improve this team, in which case i'd have to say it was a good trade.

I dont think we will know how good the trade was until TT has a full season under his belt and has put the whole "fugazy" thing behind him although Im sure he is going to here that chant in a few arenas next season.Doleac and Nazr was a wash and we never saw KVH in the playoffs so its hard to tell right now.Not fair to use his playoff performance with the Bucks as an indicator because he wasnt there long enough.

Posted by Bonn1997:

Posted by Nalod:

The team was playing better with KVH and Doleac. They might have even gotten better thru the season.

Funny you say that because the team had a better record with TT than with Van Horn

I think that Marbury fella had somthing to do with it.

Don't you think?

Funny you would say that too!