http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/phil-jackson-talks-highly-kurt-rambis-suggests-back-article-1.2663784

SupremeCommander wrote:well fo rme it seems like a logical compromise... Phil knows damned well you need a post game in the playoffs. You also need a three point shot to be modern. These efficient stat humpers have ruined the game Phil loves. But in all seriousness, I think Horny gave Phil the language he needed to move past the triangle expiriment without having to admit failure. That's fine with me as each year he's here I grow more optimistic.

Why it is problem to admit that some stuff is not working any more or need major changes to work?
Live changes, the game evolved, so the systems need flexibility.
Being stubborn and being dumb are different things.
Phil does not looking dumb to me.

During his sitdown with O'Neal and panel host Hannah Storm, Jackson revealed for the first time that he plans to adapt the triangle to be more amenable to 3-point shots. The Knicks were 27th in the NBA in 3-pointers made last season. Hornacek was successful during his first season as coach of the Suns with a pace and space system that resulted in plenty of treys.

"What's happened is that the 3-point line has become our affection because it means more to make a 3-point shot so the spacing has changed dramatically. The triangle can still be part of that but it also has to adapt also to 3-point shooting," Jackson said. "And we were able to have success with 3-point shooters with many of our groups of teams but we didn't focus on getting 30 shots per game. Hornacek came to our team, he was announced as coach last week. Jeff was a 3-point shooter, a really good one."

WOw, some posters on here have been saying the same thing. About time Phil. About time.

yellowboy90 wrote:

During his sitdown with O'Neal and panel host Hannah Storm, Jackson revealed for the first time that he plans to adapt the triangle to be more amenable to 3-point shots. The Knicks were 27th in the NBA in 3-pointers made last season. Hornacek was successful during his first season as coach of the Suns with a pace and space system that resulted in plenty of treys.

"What's happened is that the 3-point line has become our affection because it means more to make a 3-point shot so the spacing has changed dramatically. The triangle can still be part of that but it also has to adapt also to 3-point shooting," Jackson said. "And we were able to have success with 3-point shooters with many of our groups of teams but we didn't focus on getting 30 shots per game. Hornacek came to our team, he was announced as coach last week. Jeff was a 3-point shooter, a really good one."

WOw, some posters on here have been saying the same thing. About time Phil. About time.

don't worry the police men who argue vigilantly against this will have no problem making a u-turn and defend the new party line aside from triangle malcolm of course.

I guess Phil is not going to use the Spurs as an argument to take fewer threes.

Chandler wrote:i actually liked the part where they stated Jackson declined interview requests with print media

No Phil has quietly put a ban on the daily news. He denied their questions at Hornacek presser. I think that's what we all should be doing. Frank Isola is an ass hole and that Bondy kid (son of the older Bondy) are disgusting on Twitter. I would not give them any respect either with their Lynch mob tactics to get the fan base riled up. I respect Phil for that. Now as you say they are trying to flip it like it's on all print media. No bruh... it's just the douchebag daily news writers.

EnySpree wrote:

Chandler wrote:i actually liked the part where they stated Jackson declined interview requests with print media

No Phil has quietly put a ban on the daily news. He denied their questions at Hornacek presser. I think that's what we all should be doing. Frank Isola is an ass hole and that Bondy kid (son of the older Bondy) are disgusting on Twitter. I would not give them any respect either with their Lynch mob tactics to get the fan base riled up. I respect Phil for that. Now as you say they are trying to flip it like it's on all print media. No bruh... it's just the douchebag daily news writers.

good point. I hope he keeps it up. I have no problem with a critical press, but there's a limit. YOu should be willing to say in person anything you're putting in press and a lot of these pieces were on the verge of saying Phil is an imbecile suffering from dementia.

Chandler wrote:i actually liked the part where they stated Jackson declined interview requests with print media

I missed that the first time around. LOVE IT.

nixluva wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

During his sitdown with O'Neal and panel host Hannah Storm, Jackson revealed for the first time that he plans to adapt the triangle to be more amenable to 3-point shots. The Knicks were 27th in the NBA in 3-pointers made last season. Hornacek was successful during his first season as coach of the Suns with a pace and space system that resulted in plenty of treys.

"What's happened is that the 3-point line has become our affection because it means more to make a 3-point shot so the spacing has changed dramatically. The triangle can still be part of that but it also has to adapt also to 3-point shooting," Jackson said. "And we were able to have success with 3-point shooters with many of our groups of teams but we didn't focus on getting 30 shots per game. Hornacek came to our team, he was announced as coach last week. Jeff was a 3-point shooter, a really good one."

WOw, some posters on here have been saying the same thing. About time Phil. About time.

don't worry the police men who argue vigilantly against this will have no problem making a u-turn and defend the new party line aside from triangle malcolm of course.

I guess Phil is not going to use the Spurs as an argument to take fewer threes.

Believe it or not I'm gonna miss Cobol, Fortran, Pascal.....I mean Triangle.

Jose throwing the ball into RoLo only to have RoLo hand the ball back a few seconds later to Jose then just giving it to Melo with a few seconds in the shot clock to get the phuck out the way.....Ahhh Triangle, we hardly knew ya!

Can't wait to see Jerian and Wroten take 10 threes a game each minimum in this new pace and space offense!

People blame the Triangle but they miss the point about the talent on the floor being a big part of the problem. Just remember that the Triangle wasn't really at fault for the way things looked. Players do matter. You didn't see any of that when Phil was winning in LA and Chicago. Still it's a good thing that Phil has moved the team in this new direction with the hiring of Hornacek.

I've been saying for the last 2 years that it was possible to keep the Triangle System but modernize it. This wouldn't be the 1st time the system had to be tweaked!!! This is a very old system that was created way back before WW2!!! It's evolved over time and now it will be tweaked again.

I made that argument to you and you told me that we just didn't use permutations other than the side triangle. Don't make me spend all night looking for that thread.

EwingsGlass wrote:

nixluva wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

mreinman wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

During his sitdown with O'Neal and panel host Hannah Storm, Jackson revealed for the first time that he plans to adapt the triangle to be more amenable to 3-point shots. The Knicks were 27th in the NBA in 3-pointers made last season. Hornacek was successful during his first season as coach of the Suns with a pace and space system that resulted in plenty of treys.

"What's happened is that the 3-point line has become our affection because it means more to make a 3-point shot so the spacing has changed dramatically. The triangle can still be part of that but it also has to adapt also to 3-point shooting," Jackson said. "And we were able to have success with 3-point shooters with many of our groups of teams but we didn't focus on getting 30 shots per game. Hornacek came to our team, he was announced as coach last week. Jeff was a 3-point shooter, a really good one."

WOw, some posters on here have been saying the same thing. About time Phil. About time.

don't worry the police men who argue vigilantly against this will have no problem making a u-turn and defend the new party line aside from triangle malcolm of course.

I guess Phil is not going to use the Spurs as an argument to take fewer threes.

Believe it or not I'm gonna miss Cobol, Fortran, Pascal.....I mean Triangle.

Jose throwing the ball into RoLo only to have RoLo hand the ball back a few seconds later to Jose then just giving it to Melo with a few seconds in the shot clock to get the phuck out the way.....Ahhh Triangle, we hardly knew ya!

Can't wait to see Jerian and Wroten take 10 threes a game each minimum in this new pace and space offense!

People blame the Triangle but they miss the point about the talent on the floor being a big part of the problem. Just remember that the Triangle wasn't really at fault for the way things looked. Players do matter. You didn't see any of that when Phil was winning in LA and Chicago. Still it's a good thing that Phil has moved the team in this new direction with the hiring of Hornacek.

I've been saying for the last 2 years that it was possible to keep the Triangle System but modernize it. This wouldn't be the 1st time the system had to be tweaked!!! This is a very old system that was created way back before WW2!!! It's evolved over time and now it will be tweaked again.

I made that argument to you and you told me that we just didn't use permutations other than the side triangle. Don't make me spend all night looking for that thread.

Don't know what you're talking about but I've been saying the same things the last 2 years. I can prove what I've been saying. There's nothing stopping a team running Triangle from taking 3's!!! It's up to the coach and players what part of the offense you focus on. The same with pushing the ball and looking for early offense.

I'm well versed in the Triangle and for the most part the system doesn't dictate what shots you take as much as what the coach tells his players and the skills your players have. There was nothing about the Triangle stopping Jose, AA, Melo, KP ETC from shooting a 3. IF Fish or Rambis wanted more 3's it would be very simple to focus on taking more but you still need confident 3pt shooters which we didn't have a lot of.

Now that Phil and Hornacek intend to focus on not only taking more 3's but adding more shooters that will make all the difference in this team's approach. The same goes for PnR and pushing the tempo. They could ALWAYS have done this but now it's coming from Phil at the top and his Head Coach. Blaming the system is stupid. The system is what you decide it is.