Boston Celtics-they are not a talented team except pierce and they made some terible trades in the ainge era(toine).
New Jersey Nets- they lost two starters(kittels and k-mart) and may lose kid in a mid season trade(we have much more talent- even now).
Philadelphia 76ers-they will be better next season but still not better than us.
Toronto Raptors-they have talent(vc,rose,marshal,bosh) and they may be better by a good trade for carter( i still belive we have more talent).

new york knicks - we have the most talented team in the atlantic devision, we have star PG(M3) we have a great shooter(H20) a tall tallented SF (GAZY5) a solid PF tendem(SWEET50+KT40) a young athletic center (NAZY13).
we had a good draft pick(ARIZA)
we are in a good position to add 1-2 talented players(JAMAL/DAMP/TOINE)
i also like our bench with penny,frank,sweet(KT),ariza.
if we add more talent to this group we will be in position to contend for the eastren conferece championship.

Maybe but we still have plenty of competition from just about every other conference. Remember the World Champion Pistons are right next door.

[Edited by - subzero0 on 08/02/2004 19:53:19]

Posted by timmyTtop:

i think we can finish top 5 in our conference, not bad at all.

If we win the atlantic we're guaranteed atleast a 3 seed.

Posted by timmyTtop:

who is in our division?

I think those five in the first post: Knicks, 76ers, Boston, Nets, and Raptors.

we *could* be the best team in the East, and I think we should be. What happens remains to be seen. Much of this depends on Lenny, who has some talented players. Much will depend on how he gets them to play together.

Raven... there will be 3 division winners. Those 3 are guarenteed to have the 1,2 and 3 seeds depending on record. HOWEVER they are not guarenteed home court. That is determined but overall record.

Posted by fishmike:

Raven... there will be 3 division winners. Those 3 are guarenteed to have the 1,2 and 3 seeds depending on record. HOWEVER they are not guarenteed home court. That is determined but overall record.

thanks fish.

fish, your lineup is a little more realistic, but, people seem to be giving the heat more credit than they deserve. remember, they lost ALOT in the trade. the heat now have:1)wade (trully a shooting guard w/no outside shot)2)jones (only true outside shooter on the team)3)r.butler (not ready to start period. also rebounds worse than AH AT 6'7.)4)haslem (undersized at the 4 and does'nt have the bulk to make up for it.)5)shaq (so!)in my eyes there not as good as people make them out to be. i have'em at the fourth or fifth best in the east IF they stand pat w/their roster. they'll definetly win their division, but who can't? they have the same money we have to spend, and NO trade assets.

MEdiocre ot not, they'll have a easier time than us as the south east division is pathetic.

I mean, look at that :
- Atlanta (lotery bound)
- Charlotte (lotery bound)
- Miami (lol)
- Orlando (duno, but playoffs is everything except guaranted)
- Golden state, uh, I meant washington

I honnestly don't know how they couldn't finish first of that division. And as they'll play more games (I assume) against teams of that division, they'll have a better record that they deserve.

2nd seed in the conference is really doable for them.