http://sports.yahoo.com/news/the-vertical-guide-to-free-agency--small-forwards-161627550.html

http://hoopshype.com/2016/05/03/nba-free-agency-2016-shooting-guards/Here are the realistic options:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2643515-the-most-undervalued-2016-nba-free-agent-at-every-position

Courtney Lee:

Numbers have dropped off since last season. Versatile veteran who still is above average on defense and a complementary player on offense. Best bet going forward would be as a sixth man for a playoff team.

Lance Stephenson:

Lance Stephenson remains to the NBA what Russia was to Winston Churchill: a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.

In some ways, Stephenson isn't quite as mysterious and enigmatic today as he once was. After failed stints with the Charlotte Hornets and Los Angeles Clippers, it seems clear that the man known around Brooklyn as "Born Ready" wasn't, well, ready for sustainable NBA stardom.

Stephenson was, at one point this season, on the brink of washing out of the league.

His future as a pro shouldn't be quite so precarious now, after a strong stint with the Memphis Grizzlies. Under Dave Joerger's watch—and amid a roster ravaged by the injury bug—Stephenson averaged 14.2 points after the trade deadline, with two 20-point games and a 30-pointer sprinkled in. He acquitted himself well during Memphis' brief playoff appearance, dropping 14 points in Game 1 and a game-high 26 during Game 4 of the San Antonio Spurs' sweep of the Grizzlies.

Those performances might not convince the Grizzlies to pick up Stephenson's $9.4 million team option for 2016-17. They should, however, remind prospective employers that the Lance of Indiana Pacers vintage isn't entirely a figure of the past. Teams like the New Orleans Pelicans, Nets and Utah Jazz—all with playmaking holes to fill—could do worse than take a $5-7 million flyer on him.

Kent Bazemore (may be more of a SF):

Has picked up the slack after the Hawks lost DeMarre Carroll in free agency. Can play multiple positions. Has found a home in Atlanta and carved out a nice role. Early Bird rights will force Atlanta to use cap space if it wants to bring him back.

Evan Turner:

Finally has found his role with the Celtics. Does that change in another team’s system? Versatile and can play three positions, but best suited coming off the bench.

Seth Curry:

prospect or fluke?

Then there are guys like Gerald Henderson and Kevin Martin. Ha, there aren't even 10 realistic targets! And hardly any are good shooters.

Not great. Again, I still think our only hope is to trade Lopez (not because I hate him, I actually like him a lot, but because he's the only asset we have) for a PG, and then use our money on a SG and a part time C (aiming to move KP to C over the next year or two).

So do people want us to blow most of the money on a PG, mostly on a SG (which would mean Bazemore or Turner), or split the money between the two and go for the smaller names (Curry, Stephenson or Lee)?

I wouldn't be surprised if our starting backcourt was something like

PG Tony Wroten
SG Evan Turner

with Grant, Galloway, Calderon and one more shooter coming in off the bench.

Both Wroten and Turner are long, tall, both have PG skills, but also SG skills.

I'm not sure it's the way I'd go, but I can see that being a place Hornacek's and Phil's philosophies overlap.

Edit: I think Batum would fill that Evan Turner slot even better, but I keep hearing he's a lock to stay in charlotte.

crzymdups wrote:I really could see both Hornacek and Phil being on board with Evan Turner and running a sort of two guard front the way JH did in Phoenix, Phil has done in Chicago, and JH did as a player in Utah.

I wouldn't be surprised if our starting backcourt was something like

PG Tony Wroten
SG Evan Turner

with Grant, Galloway, Calderon and one more shooter coming in off the bench.

Both Wroten and Turner are long, tall, both have PG skills, but also SG skills.

I'm not sure it's the way I'd go, but I can see that being a place Hornacek's and Phil's philosophies overlap.

Edit: I think Batum would fill that Evan Turner slot even better, but I keep hearing he's a lock to stay in charlotte.

Crx two guards who csnt shoot you want to win 30 games?

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I really could see both Hornacek and Phil being on board with Evan Turner and running a sort of two guard front the way JH did in Phoenix, Phil has done in Chicago, and JH did as a player in Utah.

I wouldn't be surprised if our starting backcourt was something like

PG Tony Wroten
SG Evan Turner

with Grant, Galloway, Calderon and one more shooter coming in off the bench.

Both Wroten and Turner are long, tall, both have PG skills, but also SG skills.

I'm not sure it's the way I'd go, but I can see that being a place Hornacek's and Phil's philosophies overlap.

Edit: I think Batum would fill that Evan Turner slot even better, but I keep hearing he's a lock to stay in charlotte.

Crx two guards who csnt shoot you want to win 30 games?

Yeah, that's my problem with Wroten and Turner- no shooting, and shooting is something Hornacek has emphasized in interviews (which is odd as he had Bledsoe and Tragic, who weren't great shooters)

Vmart wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I really could see both Hornacek and Phil being on board with Evan Turner and running a sort of two guard front the way JH did in Phoenix, Phil has done in Chicago, and JH did as a player in Utah.

I wouldn't be surprised if our starting backcourt was something like

PG Tony Wroten
SG Evan Turner

with Grant, Galloway, Calderon and one more shooter coming in off the bench.

Both Wroten and Turner are long, tall, both have PG skills, but also SG skills.

I'm not sure it's the way I'd go, but I can see that being a place Hornacek's and Phil's philosophies overlap.

Edit: I think Batum would fill that Evan Turner slot even better, but I keep hearing he's a lock to stay in charlotte.

Crx two guards who csnt shoot you want to win 30 games?

I don't know what the fuss about Tony Wroten is the guy really is a terrible shooter and in today's NBA where PF have become outside shooters his poor shooting stands out even more. Turner isn't a three point threat but his mid range game is not that bad. If the Knicks are to run and uptempo ball movement offense that a guy like Turner make a lot of sense. If you caught Hornacek's interview he talked about getting the ball up fast and getting good looks can you say SSOL.

Outside shooting wasn't really a problem for the Knicks last season. Calderon, Affalo, Melo, KP, Gallo, Williams can all hit 3s. We lacked penitration and playmaking. Until Grants breakout for the last couple of games in the season. We had nobody that was getting deep into the paint causing havoc. Carmelo almost lead the team in assist doing his work mostly from the high post finding shooters as the defense rotated to cover him. We didn't have anyone though getting in the lane at will and creating getting Melo, KP, Rolo easy buckets on the regular.

Wroten was signed before Grant had his breakout so I'm sure the idea when Wroten was signed was to fill that specific role.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Vmart wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I really could see both Hornacek and Phil being on board with Evan Turner and running a sort of two guard front the way JH did in Phoenix, Phil has done in Chicago, and JH did as a player in Utah.

I wouldn't be surprised if our starting backcourt was something like

PG Tony Wroten
SG Evan Turner

with Grant, Galloway, Calderon and one more shooter coming in off the bench.

Both Wroten and Turner are long, tall, both have PG skills, but also SG skills.

I'm not sure it's the way I'd go, but I can see that being a place Hornacek's and Phil's philosophies overlap.

Edit: I think Batum would fill that Evan Turner slot even better, but I keep hearing he's a lock to stay in charlotte.

Crx two guards who csnt shoot you want to win 30 games?

I don't know what the fuss about Tony Wroten is the guy really is a terrible shooter and in today's NBA where PF have become outside shooters his poor shooting stands out even more. Turner isn't a three point threat but his mid range game is not that bad. If the Knicks are to run and uptempo ball movement offense that a guy like Turner make a lot of sense. If you caught Hornacek's interview he talked about getting the ball up fast and getting good looks can you say SSOL.

Outside shooting wasn't really a problem for the Knicks last season. Calderon, Affalo, Melo, KP, Gallo, Williams can all hit 3s. We lacked penitration and playmaking. Until Grants breakout for the last couple of games in the season. We had nobody that was getting deep into the paint causing havoc. Carmelo almost lead the team in assist doing his work mostly from the high post finding shooters as the defense rotated to cover him. We didn't have anyone though getting in the lane at will and creating getting Melo, KP, Rolo easy buckets on the regular.

Wroten was signed before Grant had his breakout so I'm sure the idea when Wroten was signed was to fill that specific role.

It was a huge problem they weren't very good. The Knicks best shooter from outside was Afflalo. Calderon had a great percentage but he rarely shoots. lance Thomas was the other who shot a high percentage and he rarely shot the three pointer. After that Williams shot a paltry 29% from three. KP only shot 33% and Carmelo 34%. Grant shot 22% from three.

I want to keep Afflalo only for the reason he shot 38% from three on a fair level of attempts.

newyorknewyork wrote:

Vmart wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:

Vmart wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I really could see both Hornacek and Phil being on board with Evan Turner and running a sort of two guard front the way JH did in Phoenix, Phil has done in Chicago, and JH did as a player in Utah.

I wouldn't be surprised if our starting backcourt was something like

PG Tony Wroten
SG Evan Turner

with Grant, Galloway, Calderon and one more shooter coming in off the bench.

Both Wroten and Turner are long, tall, both have PG skills, but also SG skills.

I'm not sure it's the way I'd go, but I can see that being a place Hornacek's and Phil's philosophies overlap.

Edit: I think Batum would fill that Evan Turner slot even better, but I keep hearing he's a lock to stay in charlotte.

Crx two guards who csnt shoot you want to win 30 games?

I don't know what the fuss about Tony Wroten is the guy really is a terrible shooter and in today's NBA where PF have become outside shooters his poor shooting stands out even more. Turner isn't a three point threat but his mid range game is not that bad. If the Knicks are to run and uptempo ball movement offense that a guy like Turner make a lot of sense. If you caught Hornacek's interview he talked about getting the ball up fast and getting good looks can you say SSOL.

Outside shooting wasn't really a problem for the Knicks last season. Calderon, Affalo, Melo, KP, Gallo, Williams can all hit 3s. We lacked penitration and playmaking. Until Grants breakout for the last couple of games in the season. We had nobody that was getting deep into the paint causing havoc. Carmelo almost lead the team in assist doing his work mostly from the high post finding shooters as the defense rotated to cover him. We didn't have anyone though getting in the lane at will and creating getting Melo, KP, Rolo easy buckets on the regular.

Wroten was signed before Grant had his breakout so I'm sure the idea when Wroten was signed was to fill that specific role.

It was a huge problem they weren't very good. The Knicks best shooter from outside was Afflalo. Calderon had a great percentage but he rarely shoots. lance Thomas was the other who shot a high percentage and he rarely shot the three pointer. After that Williams shot a paltry 29% from three. KP only shot 33% and Carmelo 34%. Grant shot 22% from three.

I want to keep Afflalo only for the reason he shot 38% from three on a fair level of attempts.

I dont know y I always forget about Lance. Grant hardly played or shot from distance as well. Gallo did tail off drastically. Melo created more then our guards. With better penitration should the looks not be cleaner and likely raise there %s? Because the Knicks had no real effective post game or penitration.

Wroten can be groomed as a drive n kick guard. The 3pt shooting is something he can improve on but he isn't going to be looking to jack a lot of 3's. Wroten will be working off screens and attacking the D! That's his strength and so that's how he'll be used.

Phil and Horny will bring in shooters. I have no doubt about that. We have guards that can push, penetrate and run PnR. We need 3nD SG's and another PG that can drive and shoot.