fishmike wrote:yuck... of all the guys Noel?

defensive versatile big that will switch and hold his on when defending ball handlers. Plus his offense is growing. Give him a pg and/or wing to run high PnRs and watch him take off.

If they ran pick and pop for me at about 15-18 feet, I could average 20 points a game in the NBA. But why would a team sacrifice everything just to get me open shots where I like it?

Swishfm3 wrote:What has Nerlens Noel done in the NBA to warrant a future first round pick and Rolo?

shoot 52% and avg nearly 10 rebs, 2.2 stls, and 1.8 blks per 36 as a 21 year old.

yellowboy90 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I don't want players that need to be put in certain situations to be successful.

If they ran pick and pop for me at about 15-18 feet, I could average 20 points a game in the NBA. But why would a team sacrifice everything just to get me open shots where I like it?

So you don't like Toney Wroten.

CrushAlot wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I don't want players that need to be put in certain situations to be successful.

If they ran pick and pop for me at about 15-18 feet, I could average 20 points a game in the NBA. But why would a team sacrifice everything just to get me open shots where I like it?

So you don't like Toney Wroten.

If Noel was available for a non guaranteed league mini deal he would have a 35 page thread

true but there is a reason why one was cut and if the same people that use the look at the situation he was in with Wroten shouldn't they keep that same mindset with Noel? A player that can grow up with KP and keep him off of the toughest bigs. A player that can give the knicks a chance to play small ball while being big. Two athletic 7 footers that as they grow into their bodies could become a great tandem

yellowboy90 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:What has Nerlens Noel done in the NBA to warrant a future first round pick and Rolo?

shoot 52% and avg nearly 10 rebs, 2.2 stls, and 1.8 blks per 36 as a 21 year old.

Per 36

These aren't his real averages..just projections of WHAT MIGHT be IF he played 36 min. Got it...ok, I'm sold.

He only plays about 30 mins a game over his 1st two years and in both years he averaged 8.1 rebs and 1.8 stls. In his first year he avg 1.9 blks and this year he avg 1.5 blks. He also had 1.8 ast(yr 1) and 1.7 ast(yr 2).

...and they say he's actual a better passing big man than what the numbers indicate. Aside from his free throw shooting ability, I love the guy and see his potential as well. But like another poster indicated, I'd wait until free agency to pursue him because I think that Lopez and a pick is overkill especially with him about to hit the market as a RFA.

If anything I'd prefer to throw a cheaper package together for Gorgui Dieng and see what comes of it. I've admired his game for a while and think he'll be available now that Towns is in the fold. Dieng can do many of the things that Noel can but is more polished, athleticism aside.

NardDogNation wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:What has Nerlens Noel done in the NBA to warrant a future first round pick and Rolo?

shoot 52% and avg nearly 10 rebs, 2.2 stls, and 1.8 blks per 36 as a 21 year old.

Per 36

These aren't his real averages..just projections of WHAT MIGHT be IF he played 36 min. Got it...ok, I'm sold.

He only plays about 30 mins a game over his 1st two years and in both years he averaged 8.1 rebs and 1.8 stls. In his first year he avg 1.9 blks and this year he avg 1.5 blks. He also had 1.8 ast(yr 1) and 1.7 ast(yr 2).

...and they say he's actual a better passing big man than what the numbers indicate. Aside from his free throw shooting ability, I love the guy and see his potential as well. But like another poster indicated, I'd wait until free agency to pursue him because I think that Lopez and a pick is overkill especially with him about to hit the market as a RFA.

If anything I'd prefer to throw a cheaper package together for Gorgui Dieng and see what comes of it. I've admired his game for a while and think he'll be available now that Towns is in the fold. Dieng can do many of the things that Noel can but is more polished, athleticism aside.

You know what....**** it. I'd do Lopez and a pick for Noel if neccessary. With all the picks the 76ers have in the pipeline though, I think it'd be far more likely for them to demand capable veterans that are locked into multi-year deals instead of that 2017 pick. Are any of those types of players available for Lopez? Any swingmen? Khris Middleton maybe?

I also wonder what the asking price would be for Embiid. I loved him coming out of college and wonder if he'd still be able to ball when healthy.

NardDogNation wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

Swishfm3 wrote:What has Nerlens Noel done in the NBA to warrant a future first round pick and Rolo?

shoot 52% and avg nearly 10 rebs, 2.2 stls, and 1.8 blks per 36 as a 21 year old.

Per 36

These aren't his real averages..just projections of WHAT MIGHT be IF he played 36 min. Got it...ok, I'm sold.

He only plays about 30 mins a game over his 1st two years and in both years he averaged 8.1 rebs and 1.8 stls. In his first year he avg 1.9 blks and this year he avg 1.5 blks. He also had 1.8 ast(yr 1) and 1.7 ast(yr 2).

...and they say he's actual a better passing big man than what the numbers indicate. Aside from his free throw shooting ability, I love the guy and see his potential as well. But like another poster indicated, I'd wait until free agency to pursue him because I think that Lopez and a pick is overkill especially with him about to hit the market as a RFA.

If anything I'd prefer to throw a cheaper package together for Gorgui Dieng and see what comes of it. I've admired his game for a while and think he'll be available now that Towns is in the fold. Dieng can do many of the things that Noel can but is more polished, athleticism aside.

I do like Dieng and think he is an underrated big but he is 26 which is still young but I really want a guy that can grow with KP. I think Dieng will be better if he restricts his game more until he becomes a knock down shooter in practice. He basically needs to find his way like a young RoLo did in Phx. Noel is already a better rebounder and versatile defender than Lopez. I am saying this as probably one of RoLo biggest fan and made trade/FA threads on him before last summer.

I think it would have to be a three team deal sending Lopez somewhere for assets to give to Philly plus a pick. It would be nice if it didn't take that much but it probably will. It would be awesome if it would just take the 2017 pick(top 5-9 pro.). Then use Lopez to get Teague. If JH gets to run his offense now a pg like Teague makes since and he is still semi-young.

nyk4ever wrote:hopefully they can't. noel is a project to the definition of the term. he has no offensive game and would just clog up the lanes for melo and kp. where would we play him? our best lineup has kp at 5 and melo at 4.

Actually it wasn't it was about the 5th best

nyk4ever wrote:hopefully they can't. noel is a project to the definition of the term. he has no offensive game and would just clog up the lanes for melo and kp. where would we play him? our best lineup has kp at 5 and melo at 4.

Melo and KP can both hit outside shots so he wouldn't really effect them. It would be if you paired Lopez and Noel together that it would be a problem potentially for guards.

But Noel and KP together could be a small ball killer for opposing teams with there agility and length. Add in skilled grinder Willie for the trifecta.