nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mreinman wrote:nixluva wrote:mrcool wrote:Realistically all these posts about centers pf and etc are useless. Thats not the current needs for the Knicks, we need Guard and other scoring help.
If we are going to Keep wroten or Grant than we need a star Shooting Guard, Bradley Beal or Derozan. The best option is to get Rondo and Evan Fournier. And some solid additions to the bench. This gives us a proven point guard a great shooter and slasher and at the 3 4 and 5 position we are solid.
I would say it's not really so much needing a Star SG as much as SG's that can really stroke it from 3 and defend. DeRozan is not that kind of player. I would say the Knicks don't have to spend that much on SG's in order to get impactful upgrades. Jerian, Wroten can drive and kick. What we need are great 3pt shooters.
The Knicks will get penetration off screens and PnR, but those kick out shooters is where the real weakness is on this team. IMO there are young guards in this draft who are great 3nD options IMO. Phil should do everything he can to add one of them. Look for guys who can not only drive but hit the 3 from the PG spot as well in this draft.
In FA i'd shoot for young guys like Crabbe and Solomon. These are the gettable guys who won't break the bank.
Crabbe I think will get way overpaid like DeCarrol and may not be able to live up to it. He looks like he has good potential but I think the price will make it way too risky.
Carroll was a really bad overpay IMO. Still they felt they needed him so paying a bit more was a risk they felt was worth it.I don't think Crabbe is in the same ball park because for one thing he's younger. His max cap number is going to be influenced by other Free Agents coming off their rookie deals. He's not going to get what the top FA's in his class will get. He will get paid and the number will likely look crazy but that IMO will be a function of the cap going up. Plus the Knicks are not just gonna steal him for pennies. Being an RFA you've got to make the contract tough enough to his current team in order to have a chance to pry him away. I don't really have a clue what that number is tho.
The Knicks are in a position where they need some young talent that is proven to some extent. Crabbe is a good role player and they need someone who can play that 3nD role. Paying a premium for that is not a bad move IMO.
what do you think would be a number that we can get him at?
As I said I have no clue but I'm sure Phil and his cap guy have worked out some numbers on all prospective FA's. They've gotta have numbers in mind and what their plan for the Knicks cap will be for the next few years. I do know it won't be a Max offer. This is a role player and not as prominent as Carroll was or other similar players.
Crabbe is actually more obtainable than a lot of his peers. The Blazers have two guards in Lillard and McCollum who are better than him so he is at best a 6th man for them. They would probably want to sign Harkless ahead of him due to Harkless likely becoming their starting SF if they play Aminu at the 4 which they tend to do. They also have to pay Myers Leonard, They also need cap space for a big man (Horford and Whiteside are rumored.... Boyimbo might be in the mix too). When you add in that Crabbe's low QO (less than 3) A offer like 12 mil is either going to take 9 Million from this years blazer cap (and they will pay the tax) or next year and they still need to sign McCollum.
The money isn't there for the Blazers to match a deal unless they have it figured out with a big UFA early. Also he isn't that big of a key to their team that I think they go crazy for him. Also have henderson who should stay at about the same salary he is now but some more years.
On the flip if he came to NY he would be the starting SG, and paid. Its not a bad deal
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2016/05/24/point-game-podcast-blazers-guard-allen-crabbe-recaps-his-season-talks-free-agency/
Pretty good interview, he seems like a relaxed cali dude, and he basically a says he is open to leaving the blazers if a good enough offer is made.