Looked like he was trying to knee the 2nds baseman in the ballz on that slide, too.

Good example of why you have to keep your left up when fighting.

Don't like violence, but not too unhappy to see him get clocked like he did.

Nalod wrote:If the punch was for the cleat, that's cool.
But the way baseball reacts when a guy hits a home run and flips the bat, watches it, or what ever is a bit over done.
Personally I think "Respect for the game" is taken too hard. Pitchers can fist pump a strike out, but a player hits a HR and flips the bat warrants throwing a 100mph object at his head?
Im no fan, but the Latin "Bravado" of this guy is kind of ok in my book. Let these guys have some self expression!!! Its not like he is flipping the bat and grabbing his cup after a home run!

I agree with you, but there has to be a line somewhere. If they let the bat flipping go, then the players will take it a step further, and grabbing their cup might be that next step. So I understand they want to limit show boating. But I also agree with pitchers allowed to fist pump on strike outs, is a double standard. Either make the rules clear, or let them express themselves.

blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:If the punch was for the cleat, that's cool.
But the way baseball reacts when a guy hits a home run and flips the bat, watches it, or what ever is a bit over done.
Personally I think "Respect for the game" is taken too hard. Pitchers can fist pump a strike out, but a player hits a HR and flips the bat warrants throwing a 100mph object at his head?
Im no fan, but the Latin "Bravado" of this guy is kind of ok in my book. Let these guys have some self expression!!! Its not like he is flipping the bat and grabbing his cup after a home run!

I agree with you, but there has to be a line somewhere. If they let the bat flipping go, then the players will take it a step further, and grabbing their cup might be that next step. So I understand they want to limit show boating. But I also agree with pitchers allowed to fist pump on strike outs, is a double standard. Either make the rules clear, or let them express themselves.

personally, i don't care about the fist pumping by pitchers. if a batter hits a HR and pumps his fist, i wouldn't care either. the bat flipping (especially by bautista in last years playoffs) is over the line to me. if a pitcher struck someone out and threw his glove his glove down, i'd have a similar take and wouldn't like it, but i've never seen that. if you flip your bat like bautista does, expect to get drilled (and knocked the **** out).

nyk4ever wrote:

blkexec wrote:

Nalod wrote:If the punch was for the cleat, that's cool.
But the way baseball reacts when a guy hits a home run and flips the bat, watches it, or what ever is a bit over done.
Personally I think "Respect for the game" is taken too hard. Pitchers can fist pump a strike out, but a player hits a HR and flips the bat warrants throwing a 100mph object at his head?
Im no fan, but the Latin "Bravado" of this guy is kind of ok in my book. Let these guys have some self expression!!! Its not like he is flipping the bat and grabbing his cup after a home run!

I agree with you, but there has to be a line somewhere. If they let the bat flipping go, then the players will take it a step further, and grabbing their cup might be that next step. So I understand they want to limit show boating. But I also agree with pitchers allowed to fist pump on strike outs, is a double standard. Either make the rules clear, or let them express themselves.

personally, i don't care about the fist pumping by pitchers. if a batter hits a HR and pumps his fist, i wouldn't care either. the bat flipping (especially by bautista in last years playoffs) is over the line to me. if a pitcher struck someone out and threw his glove his glove down, i'd have a similar take and wouldn't like it, but i've never seen that. if you flip your bat like bautista does, expect to get drilled (and knocked the **** out).

agreed.. could not have said it better
if Jose 'Bat flip' intentions ..to DUGOUT of Rangers in anger
didn't happen, Bautista would have not got his clocked CLEANED up 1 punch

Odor followups ..may have been wrong and excessive
however Jose needs to be blamed more than media blames Odor. Jose is taunter and his Bat Flip caused this mess..
cause Jose wanted this BIG time Blue Jays playoff win to be ALL ABOUT HIM instead of a TEAM Win. simply said

I watched that game and though Rangers are no saints, Jose been arrogant as he got good as MLB Allstar for a long time now.
He need to tone down his "Self is Me" ways realize its a Team Sport.