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newyorker4ever
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5/14/2016 7:26 PM
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/14/2016 8:20 PM
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Thanks for adding to the thread Nix and i agree that there's some good names on this list and would love to come away with at least one of them. So where you at Briggs?? Tell me what you think about these kids. Out of these guys I'd take Gbingie. I have him ranked at 25 RIP Crushalot😞
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wargames
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5/14/2016 8:43 PM
Who has the best long range 3pt shot out of the SG's? That's really what the Knicks need.
The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/14/2016 9:21 PM LAST EDITED: 5/14/2016 9:22 PM
wargames wrote:Who has the best long range 3pt shot out of the SG's? That's really what the Knicks need. We don't have a draft pick but I love Bryn Forbes but I think I'd be interested at developing him into a triangle PG. RIP Crushalot😞
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callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
5/14/2016 9:24 PM
lots of tweeners in that list. i like Gbinije the most out of that group...we need backcourt help
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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nixluva
Posts: 56258 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/5/2004 Member: #758 USA |
5/14/2016 9:36 PM
callmened wrote:lots of tweeners in that list. i like Gbinije the most out of that group...we need backcourt help Yeah tweeners are perfect for the Triangle. It's funny how this system is set up best for guys that are between positions. Combo guards especially. This will keep NY in a good position to find talent that fits. We're almost looking for talent by ourselves compared to most teams that aren't looking for the same things the Knicks are. Some pretty good players are left out because of being between positions. |
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callmened
Posts: 24448 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 5/26/2012 Member: #4234 |
5/14/2016 9:58 PM
nixluva wrote:callmened wrote:lots of tweeners in that list. i like Gbinije the most out of that group...we need backcourt help yep. i agree Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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wh4t
Posts: 20279 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2015 Member: #6039 USA |
5/14/2016 10:13 PM LAST EDITED: 5/14/2016 10:17 PM
It says my boy Whitehead was the only one to meet with Allan Houston. He's perfect as a point guard to me. I hope Knicks choose him and stash him in Weschester because he still needs a little bit of improvement. He has the most upside in that list. I hope the Knicks get 2 of those guys like they did with Cleanthony and Thanasis.
Gbinije & Whitehead, do it phil bulls and celtics keeping a close eye on whitehead. they know deal. i could see him going to the bulls which can be a steal. celtics has too many guards but they're very much interested |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/15/2016 12:12 AM
wh4t wrote:It says my boy Whitehead was the only one to meet with Allan Houston. He's perfect as a point guard to me. I hope Knicks choose him and stash him in Weschester because he still needs a little bit of improvement. He has the most upside in that list. I hope the Knicks get 2 of those guys like they did with Cleanthony and Thanasis. Im high on Forbes. He does one thing great right now at a high nba level. I think he can develop a little pg skill. Whitehead needs much to much development I can't justify taking a player who has as many downs as ups despite nice size and some innate skill. His efficiency is just low for consideration. I'd probably pass on gbinjie as well unless the value was in the 40s RIP Crushalot😞
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LivingLegend
Posts: 26580 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
5/15/2016 12:14 AM
I like the Bembry kid - with his athleticism, vision, feel, handle and size I could see him as a big lead guard.
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/15/2016 12:35 AM
LivingLegend wrote:I like the Bembry kid - with his athleticism, vision, feel, handle and size I could see him as a big lead guard. He's another good player but he can't shoot. gbinjie is better than Bembry. I think we need a shooter a guy who other teams fear past the three point line that will help spread the floor. A lot of this stuff all depends on who falls if we can get a pick where it would be etc. 2 nd rd is much more attractive this year. RIP Crushalot😞
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LivingLegend
Posts: 26580 Alba Posts: 2 Joined: 8/13/2007 Member: #1645 |
5/15/2016 10:05 AM
BRIGGS wrote:LivingLegend wrote:I like the Bembry kid - with his athleticism, vision, feel, handle and size I could see him as a big lead guard. You are alone in this opinion - give me the guy with the great feel and let him improve his shooting. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/15/2016 10:28 AM
LivingLegend wrote:BRIGGS wrote:LivingLegend wrote:I like the Bembry kid - with his athleticism, vision, feel, handle and size I could see him as a big lead guard. I like Bembry but Gbinjie can shoot and still do everything Bembry can dp RIP Crushalot😞
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/15/2016 10:35 AM LAST EDITED: 5/15/2016 10:39 AM
Unless dome thing unusual happens where someone unexpected falls someone is taken early or we acquire a mid range pick my two 2 nd round picks would be Derrick Jones and Bryn Forbes. I think jones represents the highest value in terms of risk reward ratio in rd 2 by a mile and Forbes gives us what I believe will be a high end role player who will come into the nba as a top 5 3 shooter. Since we use combo guards as PGS we can work with him to transition there. He'd be like our Steve Kerr
RIP Crushalot😞
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wh4t
Posts: 20279 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/1/2015 Member: #6039 USA |
5/15/2016 10:46 AM LAST EDITED: 5/15/2016 10:50 AM
BRIGGS wrote:wh4t wrote:It says my boy Whitehead was the only one to meet with Allan Houston. He's perfect as a point guard to me. I hope Knicks choose him and stash him in Weschester because he still needs a little bit of improvement. He has the most upside in that list. I hope the Knicks get 2 of those guys like they did with Cleanthony and Thanasis. Forbes is nice. He's a Steve Kerr type of player the way he catches and shoots. Other than his shooting there isn't much to his game and today's NBA elite point guards attacks the rim which is one of his weaknesses. He's an undersized shooting guard whose defense is skittish and he has a 6'5'' wingspan which is short. Galloway who's a shooting guard is a better point guard than him and that isn't saying much. Whitehead has more upside. He's ambidextrous and handles the ball very well. Keeps his head up with good court vision and a great passer with good point guard playmaking abilities. He's a shooter but i agree that he still needs a lot of improvement and being efficient. He also needs to work on his turnovers too. He attacks the rim and his free throw attempts shows that. He's a great defender with a wingspan of nearly 6'9''. His wingspan is longer than Galloway & Grant and is a better defender than them. He can also carry a team because Seton Hall was off the radar for while until Whitehead showed up. I think he should stay one more year to develop and have the same effect like Kris Dunn did. He can definitely be a top 10 prospect if decides to play one more year. |
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BRIGGS
Posts: 53275 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 7/30/2002 Member: #303 |
5/15/2016 11:41 AM
wh4t wrote:BRIGGS wrote:wh4t wrote:It says my boy Whitehead was the only one to meet with Allan Houston. He's perfect as a point guard to me. I hope Knicks choose him and stash him in Weschester because he still needs a little bit of improvement. He has the most upside in that list. I hope the Knicks get 2 of those guys like they did with Cleanthony and Thanasis. Excellent post very spot on both players--and I agree with it. Here's where I differentiate on Forbes. His 3 point shooting is so good that it is already an nba weapon. He can learn combo ph while he comes off the bench to play a back up G role His defense is also much improved and he is emphasizing ball handling this offseason. He would be an immediate impact player he has to be accounted for and if you look at our make up forbes creates space for guys like wrotten grant Derrick Williams. He's a weapon and I think you always take a player who is great at one thing( which is shooting)who has good character work ethic etc that's why I love Seth curry as well naturally 6-3 guys need to be balanced with 6-6/6-8 counter parts RIP Crushalot😞
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