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5/11/2016  9:19 AM
This tracks for me. I've always said that Mills would present Blatt as compromise to Melo and Phil. This report kind of indicates that is what is happening. And that Melo is intrigued by Blatt. And that Blatt is still in the running.

I'm guessing Phil is mulling this on his vacay.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/10/carmelo-anthony-eyes-david-blatt-with-porzingis-upside/

Though his buddy LeBron James couldn’t stand him, Carmelo Anthony likes the idea of hiring former Cavaliers coach David Blatt, according to a person familiar with his thinking.

Blatt interviewed with the Knicks two weeks ago and is being considered for the position, despite erroneous reports it served only as a courtesy interview.

The source stated Anthony believes Blatt, because of his vast international experience before joining the Cavaliers, would be better for 7-foot-3 Latvian phenom Kristaps Porzingis than would interim coach Kurt Rambis.

The source said Anthony feels Blatt could develop Porzingis into an All-Star quicker with his international touch. Blatt has dominated leagues in Israel and Russia, where he also was coach of the Olympic team, guiding the country to the bronze medal in 2012.

Sources have indicated Porzingis wasn’t thrilled with the way Rambis used him early on (he went the first 12 games under the interim coach without a double-double), but things improved, and he is not picking sides in the coaching search.

Anthony has been outspoken in pressuring Knicks president Phil Jackson to broaden his search, but questions loomed on his opinion of Blatt. Not only did James sour on Blatt in Cleveland, but so did Anthony’s former Knicks teammates J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert.

Anthony, who has hinted periodically about the prospect of waiving his no-trade clause in the near future, appears concerned Jackson will stick to the status quo in Rambis. The source said Anthony likes and respects Rambis, but has reservations. Anthony has requested input, but hasn’t had contact with Jackson since exit meetings four weeks ago.

Anthony recently said on a promotional tour if Jackson doesn’t conduct an extensive search, he would have “a problem” with the process. When asked who his choice would be, Anthony responded: “For me, man, it’s hard to narrow it down to just one person. I just want to see the proper procedure gone through, the proper process. We give everybody a shot to come in and say what they have to say and see if you like that person or not.”

Jackson has been away at his Montana lake house while drawing criticism for not being in New York during a critical juncture. The Zen Master may show up in Chicago for this week’s draft combine, where another Knicks candidate, Frank Vogel, may conduct interviews.

Tuesday was the 43rd anniversary of the Knicks winning their last championship with Jackson as a backup forward. But his approval ratings have hit an all-time low. Hiring Blatt and making Rambis offensive coordinator of the triangle seems a perfect compromise. Knicks general manager Steve Mills, friends with Blatt since sharing the Princeton backcourt in the late 1970s, appears on board.

Hiring Blatt would ease the transition of Jackson ceding power to Mills, his successor, if the Zen Master leaves in a year or two. There’s an opt-out in Jackson’s contract after the 2016-17 season.

Knicks owner James Dolan, who just returned from a European tour with his blues band as opening act to Jewel, never met Blatt when he interviewed, according to an NBA source.

During Blatt’s coaching career in Israel for Maccabi Tel Aviv, the 56-year-old ran a play or two that were similar to triangle sets. However, according to an NBA source, after Steve Kerr reneged on taking the Knicks job two years ago, Jackson didn’t inquire about Blatt. That was odd considering Blatt and Kerr had the same agent, former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum.

Blatt, interviewed this week by Houston, took the undermanned Cavaliers the NBA Finals last season, losing in six games to the Warriors. Blatt had posted the East’s best record at 30-11 when fired in January.

His downfall? Sources have talked about James resenting that Blatt was too arrogant as a rookie NBA coach. Blatt took exception, feeling his international success should count. Some believe James wanted a former NBA player running the bench – something he hadn’t had since his rookie year with Paul Silas.

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5/11/2016  9:26 AM
Posting and Toasting adds the following commentary. See the part at the end where it says Melo's guys tends to go through Isola and the Knicks front office tends to go through Berman... which makes me wonder... did someone on Mills' team leak this report to Berman?

Everything we're hearing now will get leaked for a reason. And this certainly implies that at least Melo and possibly some in the front office are at odds with Phil's desire to keep Rambis at head coach.

http://www.postingandtoasting.com/2016/5/10/11654658/berman-carmelo-anthony-thinks-david-blatt-would-be-a-better-coach-for

Two years ago, when the New York Knicks hired Phil Jackson as team president, star forward Carmelo Anthony responded with one of the most quintessentially Melo statements of his career: "I'm a chess player, and that was a power move." To this day I'm fairly certain that the term "power move" isn't used by serious chess players -- it comes from the title of a popular chess improvement book.

That being said, Melo may have just pulled off the biggest damn power move of all. If he had any control over the sources in Marc Berman's latest article on the Knicks' coaching search, Melo has come out very strongly (and very publicly) in favor of David Blatt over Phil Jackson's preferred choice, Kurt Rambis:

Though his buddy LeBron James couldn't stand him, Carmelo Anthony said he likes the idea of hiring former Cavaliers coach David Blatt, according to a person familiar with his thinking.

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The source stated Anthony believes Blatt, because of his vast international experience before joining the Cavaliers, would be better for 7-foot-3 Latvian phenom Kristaps Porzingis than interim coach Kurt Rambis.

The source said Anthony feels Blatt could develop Porzingis into an All-Star quicker with his international touch.

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The source said Anthony likes and respects Rambis, but has reservations. Anthony has requested input but hasn't had contact with Jackson since exit meetings four weeks ago.

Ever since he fired Derek Fisher, Jackson has spoken primarily about the need to install his offensive system, to find a coach who is "simpatico." Whoever is speaking for Melo in this article takes a different, far more compelling approach: The Knicks need to find a coach who is best for Kristaps Porzingis, the future of the franchise.

Berman goes on to say that, according to sources, Kristaps wasn't happy with the way Rambis used him in the beginning, though things to improve toward the end of the season. Watching the games, it certainly appeared Kristaps was frustrated, but this is the first time we've had that (possibly) confirmed.

This is wild, yo. It shouldn't really come as surprise that Melo would find no quarrel with Blatt, regardless of how the former Cavs coach got along with his best buddy LeBron James -- Melo is very much his own man. But few people suspected him to back Blatt this publicly. Melo and/or his people usually go through Frank Isola for this sort of stuff, but this came from Berman, the traditional voice of New York's front office. We'll have to wait and see what follows from other beat writers. The gauntlet may have just been thrown down.

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5/11/2016  9:28 AM
another unnamed source...

Pops and Belicheck -- two of the greatest coaches ever -- treat the media like crap. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because that's what they deserve

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5/11/2016  9:32 AM
Chandler wrote:another unnamed source...

Pops and Belicheck -- two of the greatest coaches ever -- treat the media like crap. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because that's what they deserve

The media, particularly Berman, leaks stuff out that people want out there. He didn't make this up. Someone on Melo's team or the Knicks front office team wanted this out there.

What world do you live in that someone leaking information would attach their name to a report like this?

Just because it's a "source" doesn't mean it isn't true. This is the way almost all reporting works.

Not saying it is accurate, but it may well be. Melo's own quotes to the media have implied he wants a full coaching search and wasn't fully happy with Rambis. We all saw in games that KP looked uncomfortable with his role under Rambis - part of the reason I dislike Rambis so much. Rambis's idea that KP is a small forward is one of the dumber things I've ever heard in my basketball following life.

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5/11/2016  9:33 AM
Chandler wrote:another unnamed source...

Pops and Belicheck -- two of the greatest coaches ever -- treat the media like crap. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because that's what they deserve

+1

Although JimmieD treats the media like crap too, that might infer something else...

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5/11/2016  9:37 AM
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Chandler wrote:another unnamed source...

Pops and Belicheck -- two of the greatest coaches ever -- treat the media like crap. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because that's what they deserve

+1

Although JimmieD treats the media like crap too, that might infer something else...

Pops jokes around with the media and is friendly with them.

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5/11/2016  9:38 AM
Noted media hater Gregg Popovich. You guys slay me.

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5/11/2016  9:38 AM
crzymdups wrote:This tracks for me. I've always said that Mills would present Blatt as compromise to Melo and Phil. This report kind of indicates that is what is happening. And that Melo is intrigued by Blatt. And that Blatt is still in the running.

I'm guessing Phil is mulling this on his vacay.

http://nypost.com/2016/05/10/carmelo-anthony-eyes-david-blatt-with-porzingis-upside/

Though his buddy LeBron James couldn’t stand him, Carmelo Anthony likes the idea of hiring former Cavaliers coach David Blatt, according to a person familiar with his thinking.

Blatt interviewed with the Knicks two weeks ago and is being considered for the position, despite erroneous reports it served only as a courtesy interview.

The source stated Anthony believes Blatt, because of his vast international experience before joining the Cavaliers, would be better for 7-foot-3 Latvian phenom Kristaps Porzingis than would interim coach Kurt Rambis.

The source said Anthony feels Blatt could develop Porzingis into an All-Star quicker with his international touch. Blatt has dominated leagues in Israel and Russia, where he also was coach of the Olympic team, guiding the country to the bronze medal in 2012.

Sources have indicated Porzingis wasn’t thrilled with the way Rambis used him early on (he went the first 12 games under the interim coach without a double-double), but things improved, and he is not picking sides in the coaching search.

Anthony has been outspoken in pressuring Knicks president Phil Jackson to broaden his search, but questions loomed on his opinion of Blatt. Not only did James sour on Blatt in Cleveland, but so did Anthony’s former Knicks teammates J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert.

Anthony, who has hinted periodically about the prospect of waiving his no-trade clause in the near future, appears concerned Jackson will stick to the status quo in Rambis. The source said Anthony likes and respects Rambis, but has reservations. Anthony has requested input, but hasn’t had contact with Jackson since exit meetings four weeks ago.

Anthony recently said on a promotional tour if Jackson doesn’t conduct an extensive search, he would have “a problem” with the process. When asked who his choice would be, Anthony responded: “For me, man, it’s hard to narrow it down to just one person. I just want to see the proper procedure gone through, the proper process. We give everybody a shot to come in and say what they have to say and see if you like that person or not.”

Jackson has been away at his Montana lake house while drawing criticism for not being in New York during a critical juncture. The Zen Master may show up in Chicago for this week’s draft combine, where another Knicks candidate, Frank Vogel, may conduct interviews.

Tuesday was the 43rd anniversary of the Knicks winning their last championship with Jackson as a backup forward. But his approval ratings have hit an all-time low. Hiring Blatt and making Rambis offensive coordinator of the triangle seems a perfect compromise. Knicks general manager Steve Mills, friends with Blatt since sharing the Princeton backcourt in the late 1970s, appears on board.

Hiring Blatt would ease the transition of Jackson ceding power to Mills, his successor, if the Zen Master leaves in a year or two. There’s an opt-out in Jackson’s contract after the 2016-17 season.

Knicks owner James Dolan, who just returned from a European tour with his blues band as opening act to Jewel, never met Blatt when he interviewed, according to an NBA source.

During Blatt’s coaching career in Israel for Maccabi Tel Aviv, the 56-year-old ran a play or two that were similar to triangle sets. However, according to an NBA source, after Steve Kerr reneged on taking the Knicks job two years ago, Jackson didn’t inquire about Blatt. That was odd considering Blatt and Kerr had the same agent, former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum.

Blatt, interviewed this week by Houston, took the undermanned Cavaliers the NBA Finals last season, losing in six games to the Warriors. Blatt had posted the East’s best record at 30-11 when fired in January.

His downfall? Sources have talked about James resenting that Blatt was too arrogant as a rookie NBA coach. Blatt took exception, feeling his international success should count. Some believe James wanted a former NBA player running the bench – something he hadn’t had since his rookie year with Paul Silas.

This:

"Tuesday was the 43rd anniversary of the Knicks winning their last championship with Jackson as a backup forward. But his approval ratings have hit an all-time low.[b] Hiring Blatt and making Rambis offensive coordinator of the triangle seems a perfect compromise. Knicks general manager Steve Mills, friends with Blatt since sharing the Princeton backcourt in the late 1970s, appears on board."

1. Tuesday was the 43rd anniversary. Berman uses this to incite anger.
2. "But his approval ratings have hit an all time low"....... What does this have to do with 43 years time past?
3. "Hiring Blatt.......Seems like a perfect compromise." To who? Fans who are down on his approval rating? To the Media? To Melo?
4. Again, with the friend thing "appears to be on board". NO quote, no source about mills, just that they are buds.

For the Record, I'd be happy with Blatt, but not for the reasons mentioned. If Shump and JR don't like Blatt, that's even more the reason to hire him.

"This tracks for me. I've always said that Mills would present Blatt as compromise to Melo and Phil. This report kind of indicates that is what is happening. And that Melo is intrigued by Blatt. And that Blatt is still in the running.

I'm guessing Phil is mulling this on his vacay.

"Ive always said........" Really, you are only regurgitating media stories. You don't have sources.
"This report kind of indicates what is happening"......there is nothing new in this story. Its not a "report", its Berman having to write something and anger sells.
"Melo is intrigued". Maybe this is new news. I think we read this before.
"Blatt is still in the running". Is there even a "running"? is there a even a process at the moment.

And how is this a "critical juncture" anyway? What is the plan? I got more questions that would tell me who should be the right coach but since we don't have roster details and all we know is if Phil is planning on really being involved the question might be "Is Blatt or Vogel ok with that"? If phil and coach are not in agreement won't the players kind of pick that up? Should Blatt and Vogel exercise the cred they have earned to not fully agree with phil?

So to me, and just me, PHil has to decide if he wants to be fully engaged and dictate with Rambis or hire Blatt/Vogel and train them but then step back. See when phil coached, he wanted the unit on the floor to work thru the game and "fix" what was happening. He felt that a team that does that is far stronger. This is galvanized in practice, not during the game. Thus, while Rambis might not be the best floor coach, im not sure phil would see this as critical. I get this from reading phils books and thinking. Its just an opinion.

Some of you should read Phils books. If your going to make assumptions, might want to do with some basis of structure from his words, not Berman.

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5/11/2016  9:47 AM
Nalod wrote:3. "Hiring Blatt.......Seems like a perfect compromise." To who? Fans who are down on his approval rating? To the Media? To Melo?

A compromise is between two parties. In this case, Phil and the Melo/Mills faction.


Nalod wrote:4. Again, with the friend thing "appears to be on board". NO quote, no source about mills, just that they are buds.

How do you know it wasn't Mills who leaked the report?


Nalod wrote:"Ive always said........" Really, you are only regurgitating media stories. You don't have sources.
"This report kind of indicates what is happening"......there is nothing new in this story. Its not a "report", its Berman having to write something and anger sells.

it's a report because he got information from a source.

Nalod wrote:And how is this a "critical juncture" anyway?

uh, it's a critical juncture because they need a coach for the team. they need a coach who doesn't suck? they need a coach to help sell the vision of the team in free agency?


Nalod wrote:Some of you should read Phils books. If your going to make assumptions, might want to do with some basis of structure from his words, not Berman.

I have read them. Nice assumption on your part though.

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5/11/2016  9:49 AM
This thing is bigger than Melo. Melo shouldn't be asking he should be in a gym working on his game. Let Phil do his job.
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5/11/2016  9:49 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/11/2016  9:51 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Chandler wrote:another unnamed source...

Pops and Belicheck -- two of the greatest coaches ever -- treat the media like crap. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because that's what they deserve

The media, particularly Berman, leaks stuff out that people want out there. He didn't make this up. Someone on Melo's team or the Knicks front office team wanted this out there.

What world do you live in that someone leaking information would attach their name to a report like this?

Just because it's a "source" doesn't mean it isn't true. This is the way almost all reporting works.

Not saying it is accurate, but it may well be. Melo's own quotes to the media have implied he wants a full coaching search and wasn't fully happy with Rambis. We all saw in games that KP looked uncomfortable with his role under Rambis - part of the reason I dislike Rambis so much. Rambis's idea that KP is a small forward is one of the dumber things I've ever heard in my basketball following life.

If you've been paying attention Melo (and likely his Agent Leon Rose) have been one of the biggest instigators of the Phil needs to pick a coach other than Rambis. They were the ones that got the ball started on Thibs wanting NY (who is also a client of CAA) and is probably why Melo felt so sure Thibs would take the job if Phil asked. Also Melo has been passive aggressive in his disapproval of Rambis by saying Phil needed to consider everybody which is basically saying "not Rambis".

I said this weeks ago there is a cold war going on at MSG between Melo (who wants the knicks to "build around his window") and Phil who seems very willing to look at the teams prospects post Melo. This coaching search is just a proxy of that. If Phil Hires Rambis you have to assume the knicks are tanking for the 2017 draft, if Phil hires a Blatt or Vogel then the plan would likely be to try and make the playoffs.

Even in this I doubt that Phil goes after Blatt, just because it would be a public display of Melo's influence at the Garden. If anything I could see this making Vogel a better candidate since it would be the compromise between the two.

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5/11/2016  9:58 AM
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:3. "Hiring Blatt.......Seems like a perfect compromise." To who? Fans who are down on his approval rating? To the Media? To Melo?

A compromise is between two parties. In this case, Phil and the Melo/Mills faction.


Nalod wrote:4. Again, with the friend thing "appears to be on board". NO quote, no source about mills, just that they are buds.

How do you know it wasn't Mills who leaked the report?


Nalod wrote:"Ive always said........" Really, you are only regurgitating media stories. You don't have sources.
"This report kind of indicates what is happening"......there is nothing new in this story. Its not a "report", its Berman having to write something and anger sells.

it's a report because he got information from a source.

Nalod wrote:And how is this a "critical juncture" anyway?

uh, it's a critical juncture because they need a coach for the team. they need a coach who doesn't suck? they need a coach to help sell the vision of the team in free agency?


Nalod wrote:Some of you should read Phils books. If your going to make assumptions, might want to do with some basis of structure from his words, not Berman.

I have read them. Nice assumption on your part though.

If you read, then why don't you understand him?

3. Seems like article referenced Compromise to phils public opinion.
4. I don't know if anyone leaked anything. Your connecting your dots. You might be right, but your really just making it up.
5. What is a "report"? If you handed it to a college professor, you'd be asked for source. If you were presenting a white paper thesis, you'd have to back it up.
if your a NY media content writer you don't. yes, Berman is more credible than either of us, but Im not looking for this crap to "verify" my opinion.

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5/11/2016  9:58 AM
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5/11/2016  10:00 AM
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crzymdups wrote:
Chandler wrote:another unnamed source...

Pops and Belicheck -- two of the greatest coaches ever -- treat the media like crap. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because that's what they deserve

The media, particularly Berman, leaks stuff out that people want out there. He didn't make this up. Someone on Melo's team or the Knicks front office team wanted this out there.

What world do you live in that someone leaking information would attach their name to a report like this?

Just because it's a "source" doesn't mean it isn't true. This is the way almost all reporting works.

Not saying it is accurate, but it may well be. Melo's own quotes to the media have implied he wants a full coaching search and wasn't fully happy with Rambis. We all saw in games that KP looked uncomfortable with his role under Rambis - part of the reason I dislike Rambis so much. Rambis's idea that KP is a small forward is one of the dumber things I've ever heard in my basketball following life.

If you've been paying attention Melo (and likely his Agent Leon Rose) have been one of the biggest instigators of the Phil needs to pick a coach other than Rambis. They were the ones that got the ball started on Thibs wanting NY (who is also a client of CAA) and is probably why Melo felt so sure Thibs would take the job if Phil asked. Also Melo has been passive aggressive in his disapproval of Rambis by saying Phil needed to consider everybody which is basically saying "not Rambis".

I said this weeks ago there is a cold war going on at MSG between Melo (who wants the knicks to "build around his window") and Phil who seems very willing to look at the teams prospects post Melo. This coaching search is just a proxy of that. If Phil Hires Rambis you have to assume the knicks are tanking for the 2017 draft, if Phil hires a Blatt or Vogel then the plan would likely be to try and make the playoffs.

Even in this I doubt that Phil goes after Blatt, just because it would be a public display of Melo's influence at the Garden. If anything I could see this making Vogel a better candidate since it would be the compromise between the two.

I would prefer Vogel as well.

But I agree that Melo is in a Cold War with Phil - it's a two way war though, remember. Phil in his end of season press conference said the team played better without Melo, Lance Thomas moved the ball more, etc (while sort of glossing over the fact they were 0-10 without Melo).

I think there are two factions, which is why I have been saying I think Mills would present Blatt as a compromise to Melo (who wanted Thibs) and Phil (who wants Rambis and full Triangle) - Blatt can run a motion offense that incorporates the Triangle elements, but also tweak it.

I don't think Phil likes this and I think he is in Montana mulling either pissing off Melo/Mills and going with Rambis, going with Blatt, maybe coaching himself (though I doubt that), maybe stepping down.

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5/11/2016  10:00 AM
wargames wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Chandler wrote:another unnamed source...

Pops and Belicheck -- two of the greatest coaches ever -- treat the media like crap. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because that's what they deserve

The media, particularly Berman, leaks stuff out that people want out there. He didn't make this up. Someone on Melo's team or the Knicks front office team wanted this out there.

What world do you live in that someone leaking information would attach their name to a report like this?

Just because it's a "source" doesn't mean it isn't true. This is the way almost all reporting works.

Not saying it is accurate, but it may well be. Melo's own quotes to the media have implied he wants a full coaching search and wasn't fully happy with Rambis. We all saw in games that KP looked uncomfortable with his role under Rambis - part of the reason I dislike Rambis so much. Rambis's idea that KP is a small forward is one of the dumber things I've ever heard in my basketball following life.

If you've been paying attention Melo (and likely his Agent Leon Rose) have been one of the biggest instigators of the Phil needs to pick a coach other than Rambis. They were the ones that got the ball started on Thibs wanting NY (who is also a client of CAA) and is probably why Melo felt so sure Thibs would take the job if Phil asked. Also Melo has been passive aggressive in his disapproval of Rambis by saying Phil needed to consider everybody which is basically saying "not Rambis".

I said this weeks ago there is a cold war going on at MSG between Melo (who wants the knicks to "build around his window") and Phil who seems very willing to look at the teams prospects post Melo. This coaching search is just a proxy of that. If Phil Hires Rambis you have to assume the knicks are tanking for the 2017 draft, if Phil hires a Blatt or Vogel then the plan would likely be to try and make the playoffs.

Even in this I doubt that Phil goes after Blatt, just because it would be a public display of Melo's influence at the Garden. If anything I could see this making Vogel a better candidate since it would be the compromise between the two.

Rambis will be the coach of the Knicks and should be. He is the perfect candidate going forward. Now Melo knows what is best for Prozingis too. Melo is just to into himself.

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5/11/2016  10:01 AM
Nalod wrote:5. What is a "report"? If you handed it to a college professor, you'd be asked for source. If you were presenting a white paper thesis, you'd have to back it up.

When you get down off your high horse, look up the Watergate Scandal. It may shock and astound you.

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5/11/2016  10:05 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/11/2016  10:06 AM
Vmart wrote:
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crzymdups wrote:
Chandler wrote:another unnamed source...

Pops and Belicheck -- two of the greatest coaches ever -- treat the media like crap. I wonder why that is? Perhaps it's because that's what they deserve

The media, particularly Berman, leaks stuff out that people want out there. He didn't make this up. Someone on Melo's team or the Knicks front office team wanted this out there.

What world do you live in that someone leaking information would attach their name to a report like this?

Just because it's a "source" doesn't mean it isn't true. This is the way almost all reporting works.

Not saying it is accurate, but it may well be. Melo's own quotes to the media have implied he wants a full coaching search and wasn't fully happy with Rambis. We all saw in games that KP looked uncomfortable with his role under Rambis - part of the reason I dislike Rambis so much. Rambis's idea that KP is a small forward is one of the dumber things I've ever heard in my basketball following life.

If you've been paying attention Melo (and likely his Agent Leon Rose) have been one of the biggest instigators of the Phil needs to pick a coach other than Rambis. They were the ones that got the ball started on Thibs wanting NY (who is also a client of CAA) and is probably why Melo felt so sure Thibs would take the job if Phil asked. Also Melo has been passive aggressive in his disapproval of Rambis by saying Phil needed to consider everybody which is basically saying "not Rambis".

I said this weeks ago there is a cold war going on at MSG between Melo (who wants the knicks to "build around his window") and Phil who seems very willing to look at the teams prospects post Melo. This coaching search is just a proxy of that. If Phil Hires Rambis you have to assume the knicks are tanking for the 2017 draft, if Phil hires a Blatt or Vogel then the plan would likely be to try and make the playoffs.

Even in this I doubt that Phil goes after Blatt, just because it would be a public display of Melo's influence at the Garden. If anything I could see this making Vogel a better candidate since it would be the compromise between the two.

Rambis will be the coach of the Knicks and should be. He is the perfect candidate going forward. Now Melo knows what is best for Prozingis too. Melo is just to into himself.

That's kind of the point Blatt or Vogel would be great for building a playoff team now. A Rambis hiring screams the knicks are tanking next year to me. All Melo wants is that he can play in the playoffs. I also feel this article completely kills Blatt's chances in NY. It would make Phil look weak if he chose Blatt now.

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5/11/2016  10:06 AM
Melo wanting Blatt because GodZingis is European, and He knows the Eurogame?
Don't we want KP to be coached for the NBA?????

Sure I want Blatt for many reasons, but this is a stretch. Kind of like when some want Mark Jax cuz he "Knows NYC"!!!
I love the reference when "Even though Melo's buddy Lebron soured on Blatt........." Again, a stretch.
These are not valid reasons.

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5/11/2016  10:20 AM
Rambis just comes across as another stop-gap. Do we really see Rambis here after Phil is gone? And do we really see Phil here for more than a couple more years? He will be here the remainder of his contract at the most. I can't see him re-upping again. Even if things go well the next couple of years, he's just old. Blatt, and especially Vogel, get us a younger, bright coach with enough experience to step in right now and help add wins. Fisher had the upside to be a good coach, but couldn't get it going early, as expected. Rambis just doesn't offer much upside as a coach. I want to hire a coach like he is going to be here for the long-term. I just don't see that with Rambis. Plus, he is definitely willing to be a head assistant, so we would have the best of both worlds.
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5/11/2016  10:28 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/11/2016  10:30 AM
1. This team is many years away from contending - fact
2. Melo window is closing - fact
3. Coach (Blatt, Vogel, Rambis, Phil himself) will not make the team much better - roster is just 1/3 build at best - fact
Conclusion: coach selection for next 2 seasons is irrelevant. Team needs teacher and continuity. So "Stay with Rambis" is the best choice.
But going for Vogel or Blat for long term (5 year) contract is not a problem also.
Melo will keep his illusions of winning in NY alive, Mills/Dolan will get some more stuff to make money, and fans will have their regular preseason expectations pumped so they can all go nixluva to the roof.
I do not think zo that Voget and Blatt are so Melo-stupid to take on this crowd pleasing but questionable for their carrier challenge.
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