If Dantoni remains with Philly or IF another HC opportunity opens up for him, it is very possible that they could both reunite with each other
Lin is a SOLID NBA player that provides leadership, pushes tempo, creates for his team/facilitates, can create his own shot/penetrate and finish, and has learned to play OFF the ball as well
He was put in some pretty bad situations with The Lakers, which he was the scapegoat for their poor DEFENSE, often was also targeted by teams opponents on his DEFENSE (without a shot blocker on LA)

Is Lin a starter?
IMO, probably not for a contending team but he is a very good NBA player, with HIGH BB IQ, looks to get the team involved, plays hard, pushes tempo (leading to good shots along with his penetrate/facilitating)
He also gets a good amount of steals and has hit some timely shots

Yes Rockets had to use a 1st rounder to get rid of his 15m final year salary, as it was leverage (not many teams had the ability to trade for him and absorb his salary
Last summer, The Rockets/Morey were interested in Chris Bosh/CA to add a "Star" and they had to trade both Asik and Lin to have more cap flexibility
IF they were able to convince a MAX player, (while Parsons was offered another MAX deal, they could have reconsidered matching that offer)
DMO was a big part of Houston's season success and he was injured for awhile, along with the health/game shape of D12 and Harden, which was party of their struggles this season horrible start leading to the firing of McHale

When Lin was signed by The Rockets, they did not anticipate being able to get James Harden, along with even getting Lin (Morey just wanted Dolan/Knicks spend more money to keep Lin, especially with Woodson's quote of "we would match up to 1 billion dollars for him"
Now with Harden, he is a ball dominate combo guard that uses his penetration, along with his ability to finish through contract and finish, draw fouls, draw double/triple teams, and facilitate
Which is exactly Lin's strength of the game, for that reason it lead to Patrick Beverely becoming the STARTING PG to go with his DEFENSE that is better than Lins
Many players do not enjoy getting schooled by an Asian "especially from the guard position" since Yao Ming was 7 foot + and could dunk without jumping basically while Lin's game is much diferent

As he was traded to The Lakers, Kobe didn't seem to really like him and was not taking orders by Lin, despite Lin being the PG
Lin probably should not have said anything about "swaggy P, Nick Young" saying he didn't do anything in this league to be deserved to call such a nick name...
Byron Scott like Woodson, sided with Kobe/CA which are both good friends as well...

Lin finally played in a team that supported him (his team mates with a coaching staff as well)
He regained that confidence but learned to balance out what is better for his team is necessarily best for his numbers
Lin is greatly under paid for his current contract and I do not know what he should be getting with all the cap going up the way it is the next couple of seasons
I do not take he is an ALL STAR but he is a good player that makes team mates better, plays the correct way, and is still the BEST PG we have had since the Ewing days...

JR Smith called his contract "ridiculous" along with jabs with CA (which they were suppose to be still considered "team mates"
There are not many Asian PG's because the position generally requires speed/quickness/athleticism/strength on top of being over 6 feet
Most Asians do not have long wing span for the NBA to go with the above to play a guard position successfully on the NBA Level
There are a lot of racist remarks, especially coming from African Americans

Which is kind of ironic with all the down South racisim, Civil Rights, MLK, along with it being in sports and the separate treatment they had to go through
There are some apparent trolls here on UK that have always taken cheap shots at him along with his game as well...
African American's were forced in to slavery and loss a lot of their culture from Africa that they lost along the way...
Asians built San Fran and were also forced in the slavery with coal mines, building railroads/bridges, etc....

Lin is a HIGH IQ player, that looks to get quality shots consistently, whether he is looking to penetrate for a layup, a dunk for an assist, or driving right in to the DEFENSE (leading to HELP DEFENSE and having open looks for his team mates, which is exactly what a PG is suppose to do)
He had loss a lot of confidence in his game and he even did not have a lot of support from his team mates since he left New York
There are many players that go hard on him, often taking cheap shots/hard fouls, and flagrant fouls (that do not get called by the refs, at times not even getting a regular foul despite being an obvious flagrant 1 or 2

The hate on Lin is party due to the contract/attention he received in New York during the run known as "Linsanity"
Because he played a couple months of superb basketball and was able to LEAD his D LEAGUE talents on a great run that the "ALL STAR's" in STAT and CA were not able to do so
Then there goes his contract, a 3year deal at 24m-25m with the final year netting a 15m contract (while the first 2 were 5m per year)
Many NBA players do not think that if it was an African American player or another race, that they would get such a deal for the "small sample size"
It is 100% sure that if so they wouldn't get the attention that Lin got, especially from the Asian Community whether American born Asians or from Taiwan/China/Hong Kong or wherever...

So for the past couple seasons, he has received many cheap shot flaggrants, some of which were from his former team mates, like Kobe, CA, Tyson Chandler, along with Kidd *I think that was his first one, when Kidd was on Dallas on the Linsanity run* Though technically they were never team mates, though Kidd signed as a FA the summer that The Knick's could have matched the offer for (or actually give him an offer, he only got 1 offer and he took it, as The Knicks told him to so...)

So a youtube video went viral a couple months back on the hits he was getting and how the refs wouldn't even go to the replay center to take a look at it

While many similar fouls were called for flagrant 1 and 2's for other players
Note that, Lin has received much more cheap shots in his entire NBA career than these video actually shows

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2- https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jeremy+hard+fouls+not+called+flagrant

3- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLws7hxeom64MMPzGHhqYTLRPaZFpeu8cQ

4- An Asian American's perspective/response to the viral video along with Lin's non calls

I think Americans just LOVE to complain about stuff. we even SEARCH for things to complain about (thats ALL races). dude is a good player who is about to get PAID. Im black and here in Harlem MANY MANY MANY dudes still regret that we gave him away for Ray "Donuts" Felton. I still have a Lin jersey and if you ball at many parks here youll see many cats with Lin jerseys

Linsanity was one of the best 2 weeks of my life as a knicks fan. He'll always have a special place in my heart

callmened wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:Wow....some may consider this heresy to say but it seems like Jeremy Lin is getting the Jackie Robinson treatment. Where people try to play it off as hazing, earning your stripes or paying his dues but it looks like straight up bias & discrimination to me. As a caveat, i would also like to add that although I thought Linsanity I was NOT a member of the hype train and didnt have any problem with the Knicks not matching the Rockets offer but these fouls are outta control & wrong is wrong.

PS - I also would like to see a video comparison made of the foul calls Melo gets when going to the basket as compared to LeBron or any other superstar

ill give you the benefit of doubt and say that i (think) i get your sentiment but Jackie Robinson faced HATRED, BIGOTRY and DEATH THREATS. at the MOST, this is simply jealousy. again i think alot of the BEATING he gets is cuz hes constantly attacking the rim and they CANT stop him

PS - arent the REFS calling the fouls or not calling the fouls - not the players

Agreed, that Jackie faced was 10X worse but it was a different time and we as a country have allegedly evolved, which is why i think we should be past these sort of petty jealousies & biases. However there are plenty of people in the NBA that attack the rim and explode by defenders but I think that the players seem to take particular offense because he is Asian American and perhaps the refs don't call the fouls for the same reason. I know it seems crazy but I can't come up with another reason to explain what I saw on that video.

I will acknowledge there is racism and bigotry.... ignorance more like it in the nba. As far as playing time, golden state did not give Lin a proper chance to succeed. They didn't even know he could play. I was crying to the hill tops for this guy when they waived him. When the Knicks picked him up I cried like a bitch for this guy to get a chance. Linsanity was not a fluke. There was no scouting report on the guy. Teams couldn't prepare for him.

One thing I remember clear as day though:

When Lin finally got his chance to play against Deron Williams the night Linsanity came alive, Mike Breen said, "He doesn't stand a chance...." when referring to the match up. By the end of the night Breen was screaming Jeremy Lin's name. Put some respeck on it bitch.

callmened wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

callmened wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:Wow....some may consider this heresy to say but it seems like Jeremy Lin is getting the Jackie Robinson treatment. Where people try to play it off as hazing, earning your stripes or paying his dues but it looks like straight up bias & discrimination to me. As a caveat, i would also like to add that although I thought Linsanity I was NOT a member of the hype train and didnt have any problem with the Knicks not matching the Rockets offer but these fouls are outta control & wrong is wrong.

PS - I also would like to see a video comparison made of the foul calls Melo gets when going to the basket as compared to LeBron or any other superstar

ill give you the benefit of doubt and say that i (think) i get your sentiment but Jackie Robinson faced HATRED, BIGOTRY and DEATH THREATS. at the MOST, this is simply jealousy. again i think alot of the BEATING he gets is cuz hes constantly attacking the rim and they CANT stop him

PS - arent the REFS calling the fouls or not calling the fouls - not the players

Agreed, that Jackie faced was 10X worse but it was a different time and we as a country have allegedly evolved, which is why i think we should be past these sort of petty jealousies & biases. However there are plenty of people in the NBA that attack the rim and explode by defenders but I think that the players seem to take particular offense because he is Asian American and perhaps the refs don't call the fouls for the same reason. I know it seems crazy but I can't come up with another reason to explain what I saw on that video.

how do you know they take offense to Lin? becuase of the hard fouls? did you ask them? i dont know why the players foul hard and i dont know why the refs dont call fouls. i cant come up with a reason neither. but i choose to believe its more over basketball reasons (him constantly attacking the rim - 5th in the league).

How do you expect him to know these? Is your premise that only the people who say stupid hurtful and racist things are racist and everyone else is not? American society widely tolerates ugly racism as long as it's wrapped in politically correct jargon. Do you think Kobe Bryant would say -Yeah I hit Lin because he is Asian? Or do you think unless he says that it's not at all possible that he hit Lin because he is Asian? I am using Kobe as an example. Not saying he is or isn't racist. But I think the position you seem to be taking based on your line of questioning is pretty shallow and one dimensional.

meloshouldgo wrote:

callmened wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

callmened wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:Wow....some may consider this heresy to say but it seems like Jeremy Lin is getting the Jackie Robinson treatment. Where people try to play it off as hazing, earning your stripes or paying his dues but it looks like straight up bias & discrimination to me. As a caveat, i would also like to add that although I thought Linsanity I was NOT a member of the hype train and didnt have any problem with the Knicks not matching the Rockets offer but these fouls are outta control & wrong is wrong.

PS - I also would like to see a video comparison made of the foul calls Melo gets when going to the basket as compared to LeBron or any other superstar

ill give you the benefit of doubt and say that i (think) i get your sentiment but Jackie Robinson faced HATRED, BIGOTRY and DEATH THREATS. at the MOST, this is simply jealousy. again i think alot of the BEATING he gets is cuz hes constantly attacking the rim and they CANT stop him

PS - arent the REFS calling the fouls or not calling the fouls - not the players

Agreed, that Jackie faced was 10X worse but it was a different time and we as a country have allegedly evolved, which is why i think we should be past these sort of petty jealousies & biases. However there are plenty of people in the NBA that attack the rim and explode by defenders but I think that the players seem to take particular offense because he is Asian American and perhaps the refs don't call the fouls for the same reason. I know it seems crazy but I can't come up with another reason to explain what I saw on that video.

how do you know they take offense to Lin? becuase of the hard fouls? did you ask them? i dont know why the players foul hard and i dont know why the refs dont call fouls. i cant come up with a reason neither. but i choose to believe its more over basketball reasons (him constantly attacking the rim - 5th in the league).

How do you expect him to know these? Is your premise that only the people who say stupid hurtful and racist things are racist and everyone else is not? American society widely tolerates ugly racism as long as it's wrapped in politically correct jargon. Do you think Kobe Bryant would say -Yeah I hit Lin because he is Asian? Or do you think unless he says that it's not at all possible that he hit Lin because he is Asian? I am using Kobe as an example. Not saying he is or isn't racist. But I think the position you seem to be taking based on your line of questioning is pretty shallow and one dimensional.

im simply saying WE DONT KNOW what players and refs are thinking. I think its "shallow" to lazily say its RACISM. that's an easy cop out (Asian dude gets fouled - its racism). why cant there be other explanations - such as they foul lin cuz he keeps RELENTLESSLY attacking the rim (which I admire). I simply don't believe that EVERYTHING has to be about race. I gave this example before. on the subway trains, people (especially white women) refuse to sit next to me. I could blame it on racism, fear or whatever. I choose to believe I smell. I could CHOOSE to call it racism and spend most of my day angry or I can ignore it. You can call me shallow or whatever names. but that's how I feel. I guess growing up in a country with racism against you, my perspective is different. I can choose to be angry all day OR give human beings the benefit of doubt. in the case of NBA players and refs, I simply DONT know their intentions. innocent until proven guilty is my motto

callmened wrote:

meloshouldgo wrote:

callmened wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:

callmened wrote:

ActionJackson wrote:Wow....some may consider this heresy to say but it seems like Jeremy Lin is getting the Jackie Robinson treatment. Where people try to play it off as hazing, earning your stripes or paying his dues but it looks like straight up bias & discrimination to me. As a caveat, i would also like to add that although I thought Linsanity I was NOT a member of the hype train and didnt have any problem with the Knicks not matching the Rockets offer but these fouls are outta control & wrong is wrong.

PS - I also would like to see a video comparison made of the foul calls Melo gets when going to the basket as compared to LeBron or any other superstar

ill give you the benefit of doubt and say that i (think) i get your sentiment but Jackie Robinson faced HATRED, BIGOTRY and DEATH THREATS. at the MOST, this is simply jealousy. again i think alot of the BEATING he gets is cuz hes constantly attacking the rim and they CANT stop him

PS - arent the REFS calling the fouls or not calling the fouls - not the players

Agreed, that Jackie faced was 10X worse but it was a different time and we as a country have allegedly evolved, which is why i think we should be past these sort of petty jealousies & biases. However there are plenty of people in the NBA that attack the rim and explode by defenders but I think that the players seem to take particular offense because he is Asian American and perhaps the refs don't call the fouls for the same reason. I know it seems crazy but I can't come up with another reason to explain what I saw on that video.

how do you know they take offense to Lin? becuase of the hard fouls? did you ask them? i dont know why the players foul hard and i dont know why the refs dont call fouls. i cant come up with a reason neither. but i choose to believe its more over basketball reasons (him constantly attacking the rim - 5th in the league).

How do you expect him to know these? Is your premise that only the people who say stupid hurtful and racist things are racist and everyone else is not? American society widely tolerates ugly racism as long as it's wrapped in politically correct jargon. Do you think Kobe Bryant would say -Yeah I hit Lin because he is Asian? Or do you think unless he says that it's not at all possible that he hit Lin because he is Asian? I am using Kobe as an example. Not saying he is or isn't racist. But I think the position you seem to be taking based on your line of questioning is pretty shallow and one dimensional.

im simply saying WE DONT KNOW what players and refs are thinking. I think its "shallow" to lazily say its RACISM. that's an easy cop out (Asian dude gets fouled - its racism). why cant there be other explanations - such as they foul lin cuz he keeps RELENTLESSLY attacking the rim (which I admire). I simply don't believe that EVERYTHING has to be about race. I gave this example before. on the subway trains, people (especially white women) refuse to sit next to me. I could blame it on racism, fear or whatever. I choose to believe I smell. I could CHOOSE to call it racism and spend most of my day angry or I can ignore it. You can call me shallow or whatever names. but that's how I feel. I guess growing up in a country with racism against you, my perspective is different. I can choose to be angry all day OR give human beings the benefit of doubt. in the case of NBA players and refs, I simply DONT know their intentions. innocent until proven guilty is my motto

I agree that we don't know.Your position is we should not assume it's racism.His position is there's enough circumstantial evidence that we can assume it's racism. I guess all I was trying to say is state your position but don't ridicule the other person's position. Both positions are equally valid, that's the point of there being no evidence. There is no right and wrong once we run out of facts and start getting into what we believe.