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Frank Vogel looking like he won't be back in Indiana... he worked for Phil as a scout, hired Shaw to run Triangle offense
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5/2/2016  10:48 AM
Interesting coaching option.
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5/2/2016  10:49 AM
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5/2/2016  11:32 AM
This would be that sneaky oh **** you didn't see that coming type of Phil Jackson move. I think Vogel is a great coach. Tag along Shaw and Rambis for the ride and let's make it happen.
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5/2/2016  11:36 AM
He's a fantastic defensive mind. The main area I feel Rambis is lacking.

Rambis being the offensive guru and Vogel being head coach and defensive guy?

I would sign on for that.


I would even say I prefer Vogel over Blatt.

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5/2/2016  11:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/2/2016  11:45 AM
And with this news, I bet Mark Jackson is hired to be the next Coach in Indiana
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5/2/2016  11:46 AM
crzymdups wrote:He's a fantastic defensive mind. The main area I feel Rambis is lacking.

Rambis being the offensive guru and Vogel being head coach and defensive guy?

I would sign on for that.


I would even say I prefer Vogel over Blatt.

For me it's hard to determine exactly what assistant coaches are doing and what their impact is. Wasn't Rambis the defensive coach for the Lakers under Phil?

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5/2/2016  11:47 AM
i would forgive phil if this happened
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5/2/2016  11:49 AM
crzymdups wrote:

What more can you ask for?

I felt those Indiana teams took on his persona. He lead those guys especially that year Stevenson broke out. He had those guys playing like dogs. Even this year. They wore Toronto down 7 games. They also bullied alot of teams this year, including our Knicks. If we can get him, this is the guy I want to coach the Knicks. I want Brian Shaw and Rambis on his staff too. This is the right direction for the knicks

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5/2/2016  11:50 AM
martin wrote:
crzymdups wrote:He's a fantastic defensive mind. The main area I feel Rambis is lacking.

Rambis being the offensive guru and Vogel being head coach and defensive guy?

I would sign on for that.


I would even say I prefer Vogel over Blatt.

For me it's hard to determine exactly what assistant coaches are doing and what their impact is. Wasn't Rambis the defensive coach for the Lakers under Phil?

I guess he was. I'm not sure what to say about Rambis, but I just don't like him as a coach.

What about Vogel as head coach with Shaw as head offensive guy running the Triangle - that was Indiana's best season - the season they beat the Knicks in the second round and got to the ECF vs Miami.

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5/2/2016  11:54 AM
I can seriously live with this.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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5/2/2016  12:03 PM

I'm wit it

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5/2/2016  12:03 PM
Honestly I am just down for anyone but one of the worse coaches in recent NBA history...... Vogel did his best with the Triangle Offense and he does know Phil somewhat.....
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5/2/2016  12:10 PM
wargames wrote:Honestly I am just down for anyone but one of the worse coaches in recent NBA history...... Vogel did his best with the Triangle Offense and he does know Phil somewhat.....

He fits Phil's two supposed criteria of being someone Phil knows and someone who has shown a willingness to run the Triangle offense...

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5/2/2016  12:17 PM
The thing I like about Vogel - he just gives off the vibe that he knows what the **** he's doing. Like he's unflappable and on top of ****. Phil had that vibe. I really think Rambis lacks it. It's a weird, intangible quality the best coaches have. And I think you need it for the players to respect you. Vogel has it. Blatt may not even have it - part of his problem with Lebron. Rambis does not have it. I'm sorry, he doesn't.

Just my two cents, but I think there is something to that air of authority and excellence as a coach. Some guys got it, some don't. Vogel has it. Do other guys see that quality in Rambis? I just don't. He's a lieutenant, not a general.

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5/2/2016  12:18 PM
Vogel plans on running the triangle offense?
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5/2/2016  12:23 PM
come on jax, make it happen already
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5/2/2016  12:23 PM
callmened wrote:Vogel plans on running the triangle offense?

Not saying he "plans" on it. But he has used it in the past with B Shaw as his offensive coach.

And since Shaw has left, he has taken a LOT of criticism about his offensive choices. It'll prob be the main reason Bird lets him go in Indiana.

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5/2/2016  12:32 PM
crzymdups wrote:The thing I like about Vogel - he just gives off the vibe that he knows what the **** he's doing. Like he's unflappable and on top of ****. Phil had that vibe. I really think Rambis lacks it. It's a weird, intangible quality the best coaches have. And I think you need it for the players to respect you. Vogel has it. Blatt may not even have it - part of his problem with Lebron. Rambis does not have it. I'm sorry, he doesn't.

Just my two cents, but I think there is something to that air of authority and excellence as a coach. Some guys got it, some don't. Vogel has it. Do other guys see that quality in Rambis? I just don't. He's a lieutenant, not a general.

That's how I feel about Vogel exactly. I saw he had it when we played then in the playoffs a few years back. He has that borderline arrogant edge. His team's took that persona on. I love the guy.

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