I continue to think Melo to the Clippers is the most likely thing if Melo moves.

If Phil announces Rambis as coach and CP3 begs Melo to come to LA... I could see something happening this summer.

Just can't shake this feeling about Clips and Melo.

I think NY would jump at that deal.

GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Clips dont like Blake. They did great when he was out...bad chemistry thing it seems.

I think NY would jump at that deal.

We would have to trade additional compensation, but this is the deal out there that would clearly get us the best return for Melo. But it would be a long drawn-out process because given age it isn't a fair deal straight up. Doc would try to pull every asset the Knicks own for the next 10 years, minus KP. Phil would really have to know where to draw the line, but there is no question that future draft compensation would be part of the package going to LA.

Nope. I want Melo to stay and bring us to the ECF next year then the Finals the following year. He has turned me into a Melo fan.

Nalod wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:People are silly if they think the Knicks will get something of real value back(players). Melo is not going to break up a teams core again because he knows and the team knows that they'll need everyone. If Melo waives it he is looking to go to a contender that can compete for a title and you can't do that without other stars and a bench. Melo holds the power all the Knicks can do is keep him or get minor compensation and cap relief.

In my scenario Miami is better with Melo. The key here is Tyler Johnson stepping up.
Key in LA is Melo would be seen as a better fit than Grif.
Melo can hang 22-25 a nite. That is not chump change. In a three way, the team is giving up future assets to facilitate.
Example, if Melo wanted in Cleveland, Love is a good fit in Boston but not here. If Clev thinks Melo can get them a chip (not my opinion, just an example) they don't want Yoots or picks in return for Love, they want Melo.

What if Washington could get Durant, but feels like they can promote a guard and that Melo is a better fit than Wall? Thus, Melo for Wall upgrades their vision.
Its not just a talent swap were a trade depletes. Knicks had little to trade with so they wiped us out.

IN Miami, deng is gone. so the key is would Melo/Tyler Johnson be better than Winslow/Dragic NOW?
you have Bosh on the books, and want to resign Wade?

For all I know Riley sees Winslow as the future and he is willing to start a process of building for the next generation. Letting Deng and Wade walk would facilitate that.

I understand what you are saying I just think it is hopeful fan fantasy.

Melo is not an upgrade over Griffin, offensively or defensively and the Clipps see Griff as part of their future. If anything they'll want to add Melo without trading Blake.

Cleveland and LaLa don't mix.

Was- Really, come on now, they need pg play and Wall is Wesbrook lite who doesn't dominate the ball as much. He might be overrated but they're not trading Wall or Beal.

Miami- They absolutely love Winslow and knows they need him in the future even if they win a title. They'll likely need him as a backup for them to win a title if they got Melo. Dragic, Roberts, and a future 1st could be possible though. That would create a lot of room for Miami especially if Wade accepts a lower salary. That's about the only real option because Johnson and Richardson's potential.

But what use is a 30 year old Dragic to the Knicks? They'll should be looking for young players to grow up with KP. I guess they could try to flip him to Milwaukee, that's a good fit, for picks.

Would not want Blake on the Knicks. My feeling is that Paul, Blake, and Jordan all enhance each other, but that Jordan and Blake would be much less successful outside of this player triad.

Knixkik wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:Curry...CP3...Griffin- The basketball gods can be cruel.

Would not want Blake on the Knicks. My feeling is that Paul, Blake, and Jordan all enhance each other, but that Jordan and Blake would be much less successful outside of this player triad.

I always felt that Blake and Jordan weren't great compliments and their skills overlap, but Paul is so good that it never really mattered. I think if you replace Blake with someone like Horford or Millsap who can space the floor a little and play better defense, they might end up being a better team right away, even if there is less talent. But the window would be smaller given advanced age.

Blake feels like a Celtic to me. Nothing more than a gut feeling. I'd move Melo to LAC and Blake to Bos in exchange for a bunch of the eight 1st and 2nd rd picks the Celts have this year -- which must include Brooklyn's pick. Another rebuild this year doesn't hurt so bad since we have a 2017 pick. We'd have to write Melo a big check and make sure LAC can accept the additional kicker salary, but it would be best for Melo and us.

yellowboy90 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:People are silly if they think the Knicks will get something of real value back(players). Melo is not going to break up a teams core again because he knows and the team knows that they'll need everyone. If Melo waives it he is looking to go to a contender that can compete for a title and you can't do that without other stars and a bench. Melo holds the power all the Knicks can do is keep him or get minor compensation and cap relief.

In my scenario Miami is better with Melo. The key here is Tyler Johnson stepping up.
Key in LA is Melo would be seen as a better fit than Grif.
Melo can hang 22-25 a nite. That is not chump change. In a three way, the team is giving up future assets to facilitate.
Example, if Melo wanted in Cleveland, Love is a good fit in Boston but not here. If Clev thinks Melo can get them a chip (not my opinion, just an example) they don't want Yoots or picks in return for Love, they want Melo.

What if Washington could get Durant, but feels like they can promote a guard and that Melo is a better fit than Wall? Thus, Melo for Wall upgrades their vision.
Its not just a talent swap were a trade depletes. Knicks had little to trade with so they wiped us out.

IN Miami, deng is gone. so the key is would Melo/Tyler Johnson be better than Winslow/Dragic NOW?
you have Bosh on the books, and want to resign Wade?

For all I know Riley sees Winslow as the future and he is willing to start a process of building for the next generation. Letting Deng and Wade walk would facilitate that.

I understand what you are saying I just think it is hopeful fan fantasy.

Melo is not an upgrade over Griffin, offensively or defensively and the Clipps see Griff as part of their future. If anything they'll want to add Melo without trading Blake.

Cleveland and LaLa don't mix.

Was- Really, come on now, they need pg play and Wall is Wesbrook lite who doesn't dominate the ball as much. He might be overrated but they're not trading Wall or Beal.

Miami- They absolutely love Winslow and knows they need him in the future even if they win a title. They'll likely need him as a backup for them to win a title if they got Melo. Dragic, Roberts, and a future 1st could be possible though. That would create a lot of room for Miami especially if Wade accepts a lower salary. That's about the only real option because Johnson and Richardson's potential.

But what use is a 30 year old Dragic to the Knicks? They'll should be looking for young players to grow up with KP. I guess they could try to flip him to Milwaukee, that's a good fit, for picks.

Please understand I fully know what I speak of has little probability but if a team wants to move forward it comes at a price. First and foremost to extract value from melo one needs demand and multiple teams interested but also that team cannot deplete its core. Thus I look for teams that promote from within and have expendable assets that might be for the future. Winslow might have big upside but he is not close to Melo. Tyler Johnson might be seen as ready to step up making Dragic expendible. Its about the bench for Miami.

I used Wiz/Wall as an example. But if your Washington and Durant thinks Porter is ok but Melo instead of wall is a better fit, then you don't even think. That deal is Wall for Melo AND Durant. Tell me, would you trade John wall for Kevin Durant AND Melo? Of course you do. Do I think Wall and Melo is a fair trade on its own? That's not what I was saying. That is not a fair trade.

I used Cleveland also as an example of how a three way trade can work. I won't even think I can imagine what La La would or would not accept. But I do know She is tight with her cosmetics Company at Market America whose principals Live in Miami and she is down there a bit. I know the owners of the company. Melo owns a soccer team in Puerto Rico and with his Latin American heritage could very well be ok with playing in the gateway city we call Miami..............

What I don't know is Miami's game plan for the future.