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fitzfarm
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4/16/2016  8:26 PM
Seriously watching the Warriors vs the rockets, the rockets should have not even come to play what's the point if the game is already decided. Between the illegal screens and letting the Warriors de up but not the rockets. The NBA should be ashamed of themselves it was like watching the fixed kings vs the lakers or watching a wwe wrestling match.

It was obvious who was getting a unfair advantage. It puts the Warriors whole season in jeopardy the illegal screens no calls were imbarrising. If the average fan can see them, you know the refs are turning a blind eye .

Same goes for allowing the Warriors to de up but not allowing the rockets to bring the same intensity on defense. That was so obvious it made my stomach turn.

I'm convinced the NBA is turning into wwe wrestling. But why what's the advantage of letting the Warriors who are from a small market get away with cheating .

I just hope this gets corrected cause it was so obvious that they were favoring
The Warriors again it was like watching the wwe wrestling match that's how fake that game was.
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4/16/2016  8:32 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/16/2016  8:33 PM
The sad part is that they don't need the unfair advantage they probably would win without the help. So why turn a 5 to ten point victory into a 30 point victory. What's the point? Just call a fair game and the best team will win. Which is still the Warriors.
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4/16/2016  9:11 PM
so you think that the NBA is telling officials to fix games?
so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/16/2016  9:52 PM
The two games I watched I thought the home team benefitted from a lot of calls. I can't root for the celtics ever so I think the observation is fair. The other game was the Warriors. I hate the rockets.
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4/16/2016  10:00 PM
CrushAlot wrote:The two games I watched I thought the home team benefitted from a lot of calls. I can't root for the celtics ever so I think the observation is fair. The other game was the Warriors. I hate the rockets.

you hate the rockets or harden?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/16/2016  10:02 PM
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:The two games I watched I thought the home team benefitted from a lot of calls. I can't root for the celtics ever so I think the observation is fair. The other game was the Warriors. I hate the rockets.

you hate the rockets or harden?


I've hated the rockets since 94. Harden, Howard and Morey certainly help but I have wanted them to lose every game they have played since then.
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4/16/2016  10:10 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
mreinman wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:The two games I watched I thought the home team benefitted from a lot of calls. I can't root for the celtics ever so I think the observation is fair. The other game was the Warriors. I hate the rockets.

you hate the rockets or harden?


I've hated the rockets since 94. Harden, Howard and Morey certainly help but I have wanted them to lose every game they have played since then.

because they beat the knicks? How can anyone hate Hakeem?

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/16/2016  10:16 PM
CrushAlot wrote:The two games I watched I thought the home team benefitted from a lot of calls. I can't root for the celtics ever so I think the observation is fair. The other game was the Warriors. I hate the rockets.

I hate the rockets as well, but I want to watch a nba game not a wwf wrestling match. Yea the Warriors are the better team. they would probably win without the unfair advantage. But anyone who watched the game saw a unfair advantage given to the Warriors .

NBA stop letting the Warriors run illegal screens to get the best shooters in the game wide open shots. And let the teams play defense with the same intensity...

We all as fans need to stand up and make sure the NBA dose not turn into a fake league with predetermined outcomes.

Anyone who watched the Warriors game should feel ashamed to be a fan of the NBA . That game was obviously rigged. If we could set illegal screens to get KP and melo wide open every time down we probably would have won 60 games this year.

Perfect example from the game Beverly stripped curry for a steal wisstle blown ... Curry pulled the same move on harden for the steal wisstle not blown easy transition bucket

Another example. Rockets called for illegal screen on curry cause curry fell down . Next play Bogot sets a moving screen no call curry hits a open 3 ... I counted over 40 moving screens by the Warriors all =Ing open jumpers .


Every moving screen was called on the rockets .... That in my eyes is a fixed ball game .

The Warriors are cheaters and the refs hold responsibility to call a fair and even game ...

That game was fixed how about just send everyone home and flip a coin on weather to give the trophy to the cavs or the Warriors. Cause that's obviously what the NBA wants .

Just writing this makes me puke in my mouth
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4/16/2016  11:06 PM
That's super racist. Are you a racist cause that's not funny dude.
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4/16/2016  11:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 4/16/2016  11:39 PM
fitzfarm wrote:That's super racist. Are you a racist cause that's not funny dude.

you are right deleted.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/17/2016  12:52 AM
No way for me to see the game today.

I understand that in terms of marketing, the NBA would probably be more happy with certain teams doing well, but it would almost be impossible for them to "fix" games. The quality of the video you can no see would make it very difficult to get away with this kind of thing on a consistent basis.

For what it is worth, though- It's always seemed to me that moving screen fouls are like holding by offensive linemen in the NFL... they can be called on almost every play, and it is hard to figure out why they are called or not called.

My pet peeve is that they call the pivot foot/first step foul all the time, but let some players palm the ball or and let others take 3/4 steps on a drive to the basket.

I also get annoyed at how the kind of play mentioned by fitzfarm...and how refs decide to call (or not call) fouls when the defender is trying to reach in to knock a ball away. Early in the season I saw a ref about 8 ft away from LeBron as he hacked another player across the arm and knocked the ball away. Might have been against Charlotte, and it allowed the Cavs to win a close game.

That type of stuff makes me wonder about things...have to admit that.

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4/17/2016  1:02 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:No way for me to see the game today.

I understand that in terms of marketing, the NBA would probably be more happy with certain teams doing well, but it would almost be impossible for them to "fix" games. The quality of the video you can no see would make it very difficult to get away with this kind of thing on a consistent basis.

For what it is worth, though- It's always seemed to me that moving screen fouls are like holding by offensive linemen in the NFL... they can be called on almost every play, and it is hard to figure out why they are called or not called.

My pet peeve is that they call the pivot foot/first step foul all the time, but let some players palm the ball or and let others take 3/4 steps on a drive to the basket.

I also get annoyed at how the kind of play mentioned by fitzfarm...and how refs decide to call (or not call) fouls when the defender is trying to reach in to knock a ball away. Early in the season I saw a ref about 8 ft away from LeBron as he hacked another player across the arm and knocked the ball away. Might have been against Charlotte, and it allowed the Cavs to win a close game.

That type of stuff makes me wonder about things...have to admit that.

big diff with selective favoritism vs. nba game fixing.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/17/2016  1:12 AM
fitzfarm wrote:That's super racist. Are you a racist cause that's not funny dude.

wat?
fitzfarm
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4/17/2016  1:54 AM
actofgod wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:That's super racist. Are you a racist cause that's not funny dude.

wat?

You missed it buddy
fitzfarm
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4/17/2016  2:03 AM
WaltLongmire wrote:No way for me to see the game today.

I understand that in terms of marketing, the NBA would probably be more happy with certain teams doing well, but it would almost be impossible for them to "fix" games. The quality of the video you can no see would make it very difficult to get away with this kind of thing on a consistent basis.

For what it is worth, though- It's always seemed to me that moving screen fouls are like holding by offensive linemen in the NFL... they can be called on almost every play, and it is hard to figure out why they are called or not called.

My pet peeve is that they call the pivot foot/first step foul all the time, but let some players palm the ball or and let others take 3/4 steps on a drive to the basket.

I also get annoyed at how the kind of play mentioned by fitzfarm...and how refs decide to call (or not call) fouls when the defender is trying to reach in to knock a ball away. Early in the season I saw a ref about 8 ft away from LeBron as he hacked another player across the arm and knocked the ball away. Might have been against Charlotte, and it allowed the Cavs to win a close game.

That type of stuff makes me wonder about things...have to admit that.

I mean I agree with you about moving screens but if you could have seen them... It wasn't well I could call it but it's close. It was watching dray and Bogot set screens and move with the defender to get open jumpers over and over and over again resulting in a huge lead and a impossible come back for the rockets... And the way the refs allowed the Warriors to play defense compared to the rockets was imbarrising to say the least . This game was like watching a wwf wrestling match. It was so one sided it's a wonder why the rockets coach didn't start throwing chairs on the court.

With the amount of moving screens manute bol would have made 10 threes for the Warriors.

I honestly am imbarrisit to be a NBA fan tonight . It's a dam shame to call it a game when it's so predetermined by the refs.
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4/17/2016  6:21 AM
Nothing new. The 72-10 Bulls team was getting tremendous help from the refs, it is as if they were going 8 on 5 on the court vs the opposing team. And Jordan was allowed to break any rules he wanted, push off his defender, foul and handcheck while on defense etc., and any slight whiff in his direction was called a defensive foul.

I think that team deserves a big asterisk next to their regular season and "championship" records.
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4/17/2016  8:41 AM
fitzfarm wrote:
WaltLongmire wrote:No way for me to see the game today.

I understand that in terms of marketing, the NBA would probably be more happy with certain teams doing well, but it would almost be impossible for them to "fix" games. The quality of the video you can no see would make it very difficult to get away with this kind of thing on a consistent basis.

For what it is worth, though- It's always seemed to me that moving screen fouls are like holding by offensive linemen in the NFL... they can be called on almost every play, and it is hard to figure out why they are called or not called.

My pet peeve is that they call the pivot foot/first step foul all the time, but let some players palm the ball or and let others take 3/4 steps on a drive to the basket.

I also get annoyed at how the kind of play mentioned by fitzfarm...and how refs decide to call (or not call) fouls when the defender is trying to reach in to knock a ball away. Early in the season I saw a ref about 8 ft away from LeBron as he hacked another player across the arm and knocked the ball away. Might have been against Charlotte, and it allowed the Cavs to win a close game.

That type of stuff makes me wonder about things...have to admit that.

I mean I agree with you about moving screens but if you could have seen them... It wasn't well I could call it but it's close. It was watching dray and Bogot set screens and move with the defender to get open jumpers over and over and over again resulting in a huge lead and a impossible come back for the rockets... And the way the refs allowed the Warriors to play defense compared to the rockets was imbarrising to say the least . This game was like watching a wwf wrestling match. It was so one sided it's a wonder why the rockets coach didn't start throwing chairs on the court.

With the amount of moving screens manute bol would have made 10 threes for the Warriors.

I honestly am imbarrisit to be a NBA fan tonight . It's a dam shame to call it a game when it's so predetermined by the refs.

no need to be imbarrist - keep your hed hye.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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4/17/2016  11:48 AM
Refs should be hired from a third party independent from NBA. A reform is needed right there.
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4/17/2016  4:27 PM
I still happy about that guy who paid of Hugh Hollins for the horrendous fixed call that won us that chicago series.
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