martin wrote:mreinman wrote:martin wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:mreinman wrote:crzymdups wrote:CrushAlot wrote:crzymdups wrote:Courtney Lee two huge offensive rebounds in the final minute wins the game for Charlotte. We should sign that guy. Not that he'd leave a good situation in Charlotte.
He has been awesome. Earlier in the game they said he has shot the highest percentage from 3 in the nba since Thanksgiving.
I would overpay him before Bazemore.
Though Charlotte might overpay him before Batum, even.
Lee is an IDEAL SG for the way the game is played now. Defense. 3s. Rebounds, moves the ball. I like his grit, too.
how much?
I have no idea what the market will be. But I would definitely go around $10M per for 2 or 3yrs. Not sure if that's even enough though, in the coming market.
dude passes worse/fewer than afflalo. We need ball movers! And his WS48 is below league avg. that is not a good sign.
How reliable is WS48? I still can't quantify it. This year Jose had WS48 of .096. Last year Wade had .086 and this year .105, below average and now barely above average.
This year: Lee .093, Lin .082, Batum .097.
What's the deal?
perhaps batum did not play as well as everyone thought? He did not play well in the second half and his numbers nose dived.
Lin is Lin.
Lee was never that good and I assume that his non-existing passing was the culprit.
Jose is an efficient offensive player though he needs to be not slightly below avg but 2.5 times better than average to make up for his defense.
Batum probably has intangibles that make him better than his stats but how much better and in no way would I go crazy with his money.
Every stat has outliars but if you want to know why charlotte is playing so much better you need to look no further than Kemba Walker and also how much the offense has been spread / opened up this season.
how does a stat this is supposed to negate the outliars by considering both offense and defense (although it admittedly is not able to quantify defense very well).
Wade had a lower WS48 last year than Lin, Batum, Lee this year. Jose is in the mix for all of those guys this year. Also, WS48 only puts Wade at barely above average this year but that doesn't pass the eye test.
How are you, mreinman, as someone who relies so heavily on this stat, informing us of how this could be? This is too many outliars, or it at least needs a lot more explaining.
wade did not have a good year though still slightly above average even though his TS was a bad 51% and he shot 16% from 3. Even the eye test can catch that. Even though the stats said that he was just above average, his intangibles and leadership to make more valuable than that.
As a number of us who follow these stats have said numerous times, they are not perfect and they can be used as a really good tool to help a team make decisions along with standard scouting.
Though you pick outliars, it is far far more wrong than right. Just take a look at the top 50 to get an idea.
And again, Jose is a bad example because he is an efficient player that plays the worst defense in the league.
And, Wade's WS48 is .179 for his career which is phenomenal. Its not coincidence that it is rapidly declining with his age and legs.
so here is what phil is thinking ....
4/25/2016 9:19 PM