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Nalod
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4/14/2016  2:04 PM
"Carmelo Anthony may need assist from James Dolan on next Knicks coach"

This is fueling the no patience environment where frustrated fans want to be satisfied NOW. Sorry if Im stepping on anyones toes here. Its ignorant.
Buying the past results was how we used to do things over and over again.
Dolan delegated to Phil whom we all expect great things from, but the question nobody knows is when. The dude tore it down, that is a big change.
He has a philosophy that is not easy to implement but is easy to be critical of. Dolan can't buy Phil's coaching record and many of you want phil to coach. SAS wants phil to coach. SAS says PHil has never been president before so he insinuates failure.

If you believe in Chuckbuck over Phil, then I'd say your desire to win is like most of us, we all want to win, but the process by which you think it can happen is not realistic.
Change takes time. The process takes time. How the next coach should be picked should not be based on getting a nice respected name but one that fits within the process of culture and the system.

IN time it would best that the process PROMOTES those already in the system. This is why the Spurs have done well. Those who excel are hired by others. Larry Brown started the Popovitch tree. Pop was a very unlikey candidate on paper given his lack of starphuch history. We started our own tree with a man who knows winning and has the cred to evolve into a very good president that by installing

Rambis IF HE IS THE MAN is being promoted from within. The problem we all have is the culture HERE has not produced results yet so many of us don't have the confidence. Phil has the cred, but some of us doubt him as he has not been a team president.

That might be valid, but its a work in process. To stop now and go back to starphuching name by name without a master plan will only get us back to where we have been since the day Checketts walked out the door, and that's in the hands of Dolan.
For Isola, who hates Dolan to publish this noise means he likes his ratings more than substance.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/isola-carmelo-anthony-dolan-coach-article-1.2600393

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crzymdups
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4/14/2016  2:05 PM
Rambis isn't talking to players at their exit interviews, only Mills and Phil. Take that to mean what you will.
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Nalod
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4/14/2016  2:14 PM
crzymdups wrote:Rambis isn't talking to players at their exit interviews, only Mills and Phil. Take that to mean what you will.

Im thinking Phill and Mills (Fill-n'-Mills)asked players about Rambis and wanted feedback on his coaching. They wanted candid response. Since Rambis is "Interim" coach he kind of does not have that "juice" to be there and ask players what their off season regimen should be.

That's kind of boring unless Media serves it up with the insinuation that he won't be back. Then its sexy. Sex, anger and fear sell lots of newspapers.

EnySpree
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4/14/2016  2:38 PM
Nalod wrote:"Carmelo Anthony may need assist from James Dolan on next Knicks coach"

This is fueling the no patience environment where frustrated fans want to be satisfied NOW. Sorry if Im stepping on anyones toes here. Its ignorant.
Buying the past results was how we used to do things over and over again.
Dolan delegated to Phil whom we all expect great things from, but the question nobody knows is when. The dude tore it down, that is a big change.
He has a philosophy that is not easy to implement but is easy to be critical of. Dolan can't buy Phil's coaching record and many of you want phil to coach. SAS wants phil to coach. SAS says PHil has never been president before so he insinuates failure.

If you believe in Chuckbuck over Phil, then I'd say your desire to win is like most of us, we all want to win, but the process by which you think it can happen is not realistic.
Change takes time. The process takes time. How the next coach should be picked should not be based on getting a nice respected name but one that fits within the process of culture and the system.

IN time it would best that the process PROMOTES those already in the system. This is why the Spurs have done well. Those who excel are hired by others. Larry Brown started the Popovitch tree. Pop was a very unlikey candidate on paper given his lack of starphuch history. We started our own tree with a man who knows winning and has the cred to evolve into a very good president that by installing

Rambis IF HE IS THE MAN is being promoted from within. The problem we all have is the culture HERE has not produced results yet so many of us don't have the confidence. Phil has the cred, but some of us doubt him as he has not been a team president.

That might be valid, but its a work in process. To stop now and go back to starphuching name by name without a master plan will only get us back to where we have been since the day Checketts walked out the door, and that's in the hands of Dolan.
For Isola, who hates Dolan to publish this noise means he likes his ratings more than substance.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/isola-carmelo-anthony-dolan-coach-article-1.2600393

Fantastic post bro. It's like flowers in the attic out this mofo.

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crzymdups
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4/14/2016  3:11 PM
Nalod wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Rambis isn't talking to players at their exit interviews, only Mills and Phil. Take that to mean what you will.

Im thinking Phill and Mills (Fill-n'-Mills)asked players about Rambis and wanted feedback on his coaching. They wanted candid response. Since Rambis is "Interim" coach he kind of does not have that "juice" to be there and ask players what their off season regimen should be.

That's kind of boring unless Media serves it up with the insinuation that he won't be back. Then its sexy. Sex, anger and fear sell lots of newspapers.

You think Melo wants him back? I think it's fair to question whether he'll be back. There is clearly tension in the organization on this front.

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Vmart
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4/14/2016  3:18 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Rambis isn't talking to players at their exit interviews, only Mills and Phil. Take that to mean what you will.

Im thinking Phill and Mills (Fill-n'-Mills)asked players about Rambis and wanted feedback on his coaching. They wanted candid response. Since Rambis is "Interim" coach he kind of does not have that "juice" to be there and ask players what their off season regimen should be.

That's kind of boring unless Media serves it up with the insinuation that he won't be back. Then its sexy. Sex, anger and fear sell lots of newspapers.

You think Melo wants him back? I think it's fair to question whether he'll be back. There is clearly tension in the organization on this front.

I think Phil doesn't care what Melo wants. Melo has had way to many coaches in to short a span. I know the last thing Melo wants is to be know as a coach killer. Unless it's a play by Melo to get a foot out the door.

ChuckBuck
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4/14/2016  3:19 PM
All I know is if Phil gets his way and Rambis is named head coach of the Knicks, Melo won't be so mellow.

Would be a full on mutiny by the head banded one. Might even force Melo's hand to knock on Jimmy D's door.

nixluva
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4/14/2016  3:20 PM
Good thread. What bothers me often is that there are some who seem to think that it's supposed to happen almost all at once. There's this need to present things in a negative light who the past is brought up as if it has connection to this current situation. Phil has nothing to do with the lack of picks and chasing big names of the past.

It's clear as day that Phil cleaned house last year and that this season was year one of the rebuild. Even tho the team didn't make the playoffs that doesn't mean this was a total failure for the franchise rebuilding process. Still you read media mentioning the total W/L record since Phil took over so that it presents the most stark and depressing picture possible. The losses in the 17-65 season are not the story. Who is really sorry we ended up with KP?

The future of the team is still very much up in the air. This summer will be another important part of the rebuilding process. I fully expect Phil to take this as seriously as he did last summer. Remember all the doubts going into last summer? Some were sure he would strike out in FA or make horrible signings. Instead Phil made very practical decisions and killed it in the Draft. Despite what the Media and some fans keep writing, Phil has not demonstrated an undisciplined approach. In fact it's been quite the opposite. Phil left some openings for cap space in FA. So yes they lost 50 games this year, but there was roster progress and hopefully there will be even more this summer.

matt
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4/14/2016  3:25 PM
now Jackson says "the interview will only involve people I know"

Super. Hopefully he actually knows Thibs and is playing coy

newyorknewyork
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4/14/2016  4:09 PM
Vmart wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
Nalod wrote:
crzymdups wrote:Rambis isn't talking to players at their exit interviews, only Mills and Phil. Take that to mean what you will.

Im thinking Phill and Mills (Fill-n'-Mills)asked players about Rambis and wanted feedback on his coaching. They wanted candid response. Since Rambis is "Interim" coach he kind of does not have that "juice" to be there and ask players what their off season regimen should be.

That's kind of boring unless Media serves it up with the insinuation that he won't be back. Then its sexy. Sex, anger and fear sell lots of newspapers.

You think Melo wants him back? I think it's fair to question whether he'll be back. There is clearly tension in the organization on this front.

I think Phil doesn't care what Melo wants. Melo has had way to many coaches in to short a span. I know the last thing Melo wants is to be know as a coach killer. Unless it's a play by Melo to get a foot out the door.

In 7.5yrs Melo played for Denver he had 2 coaches.
In the same 7.5yrs the Knicks had 5 coaches.
In the 5.5 yrs Melo played in NY the Knicks have had 4 coaches.
In the 5.5 yrs Denver has had since trading Melo they have had 4 coaches.

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newyorknewyork
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4/14/2016  4:11 PM
Nalod wrote:"Carmelo Anthony may need assist from James Dolan on next Knicks coach"

This is fueling the no patience environment where frustrated fans want to be satisfied NOW. Sorry if Im stepping on anyones toes here. Its ignorant.
Buying the past results was how we used to do things over and over again.
Dolan delegated to Phil whom we all expect great things from, but the question nobody knows is when. The dude tore it down, that is a big change.
He has a philosophy that is not easy to implement but is easy to be critical of. Dolan can't buy Phil's coaching record and many of you want phil to coach. SAS wants phil to coach. SAS says PHil has never been president before so he insinuates failure.

If you believe in Chuckbuck over Phil, then I'd say your desire to win is like most of us, we all want to win, but the process by which you think it can happen is not realistic.
Change takes time. The process takes time. How the next coach should be picked should not be based on getting a nice respected name but one that fits within the process of culture and the system.

IN time it would best that the process PROMOTES those already in the system. This is why the Spurs have done well. Those who excel are hired by others. Larry Brown started the Popovitch tree. Pop was a very unlikey candidate on paper given his lack of starphuch history. We started our own tree with a man who knows winning and has the cred to evolve into a very good president that by installing

Rambis IF HE IS THE MAN is being promoted from within. The problem we all have is the culture HERE has not produced results yet so many of us don't have the confidence. Phil has the cred, but some of us doubt him as he has not been a team president.

That might be valid, but its a work in process. To stop now and go back to starphuching name by name without a master plan will only get us back to where we have been since the day Checketts walked out the door, and that's in the hands of Dolan.
For Isola, who hates Dolan to publish this noise means he likes his ratings more than substance.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/isola-carmelo-anthony-dolan-coach-article-1.2600393

We brought in big names such as Lenny Wilkens, Larry Brown, Mike D'Antoni in the past. They don't guarantee success here because they had them with other orgs. Phil needs to up the talent level so that we can accurately judge.

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