mreinman wrote:the fact that we need to ask this question is a problem

The problem is people feel the need to keep beating that thought in our heads.

A triangle player is a good basketball player. The end. We can't get guys that like to go one on one, and free lance... aka low basketball IQ players.

For any team to win you need high IQ players.

That golden state teams offense is pretty complex but because it doesn't have a name nobody has anything to key in on...

anyway...

Knixkik wrote:Since it's all about the triangle, what players do you think Phil is most likely to target (not necessarily who you want)?

It's really not an issue at all. The only players you don't want are selfish players that can't or won't pass. If a player can't be effective unless they have the ball then it's not the most ideal. Guys that have good overall skills, BB IQ and can play well without the ball are ideal.

We're not likely looking at any bigs so really you can limit your search to guards. That makes things a bit more simple. There are not a lot of guards out there worth bringing in. Phil prefers big Combo Guards that can create their own offense, get to the basket but also pass effectively. That's why you see Phil target guards like Jerian, Wroten and guys like Shved. So there are FA's that fit that kind of mold.

Even guys like Seth Curry have popped up on the radar recently. If he opts out I suspect Phil would be interested. So it doesn't have to be a star.

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:the fact that we need to ask this question is a problem

The problem is people feel the need to keep beating that thought in our heads.

A triangle player is a good basketball player. The end. We can't get guys that like to go one on one, and free lance... aka low basketball IQ players.

For any team to win you need high IQ players.

That golden state teams offense is pretty complex but because it doesn't have a name nobody has anything to key in on...

anyway...

'Knicks will go after players who fit triangle system'

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-players-fit-triangle-system-article-1.2597885?

WaltLongmire wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:the fact that we need to ask this question is a problem

The problem is people feel the need to keep beating that thought in our heads.

A triangle player is a good basketball player. The end. We can't get guys that like to go one on one, and free lance... aka low basketball IQ players.

For any team to win you need high IQ players.

That golden state teams offense is pretty complex but because it doesn't have a name nobody has anything to key in on...

anyway...

Yup...

Also have to look at our draft.

Not sure you would consider KP to be a classic candidate for the Triangle.

Grant played in a motion offense at ND, and you would have expected him to easily adapt to the Triangle, but it is taking him longer. Grant looks comfortable in a pick and roll type offense, too.

Hernangomez might be the most Triangle ready guy we took last year. Better interior and midrange game- much more of a classic center.

Good players with some intelligence adapt and find a way to succeed.

I also want players who won't be lost if/when the Knicks modify or ditch the Triangle at some point in the future.

Pau Gasol
Seth Curry
Kent Bazemore
Jamal Crawford

Draft picks
1st round past 15
Denzell Valentine
Malik Beasley
Rd 2
Derrick Jones
Patrick MCcaw
Ben Bentil
Undrafted
well a bunch

Knixkik wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:the fact that we need to ask this question is a problem

The problem is people feel the need to keep beating that thought in our heads.

A triangle player is a good basketball player. The end. We can't get guys that like to go one on one, and free lance... aka low basketball IQ players.

For any team to win you need high IQ players.

That golden state teams offense is pretty complex but because it doesn't have a name nobody has anything to key in on...

anyway...

My question is based on this article. Phil and Kurt don't say we are going after "good" players, he is saying we are going after players to fit this specific system. So my question is what players do you think he has in mind. All of these responses, and not one specific answer. Yeah, no $h!t we want good basketball players. Doesn't everyone?

'Knicks will go after players who fit triangle system'

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-players-fit-triangle-system-article-1.2597885?

We need players similar to guys that play on the spurs or golden state as compared to guys that play for Cleveland.... I use them as an example because the spurs and golden state play team ball while cleveland plays a one on one offense. They all represent the best teams in the nba. The Knicks are trying to play system bask like the spurs and golden state.

anyway as far as free agents. I really like Evan Fournier at the 2. He plays alot like Sasha except he makes his shots.

I like David Lee off the bench. I like Eric Gordon and Marcus Thornton. Derozen would be a dream but he's not leaving Toronto. I'm sure they feel they are one player away from the finals.

EnySpree wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:the fact that we need to ask this question is a problem

The problem is people feel the need to keep beating that thought in our heads.

A triangle player is a good basketball player. The end. We can't get guys that like to go one on one, and free lance... aka low basketball IQ players.

For any team to win you need high IQ players.

That golden state teams offense is pretty complex but because it doesn't have a name nobody has anything to key in on...

anyway...

My question is based on this article. Phil and Kurt don't say we are going after "good" players, he is saying we are going after players to fit this specific system. So my question is what players do you think he has in mind. All of these responses, and not one specific answer. Yeah, no $h!t we want good basketball players. Doesn't everyone?

'Knicks will go after players who fit triangle system'

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/knicks-players-fit-triangle-system-article-1.2597885?

We need players similar to guys that play on the spurs or golden state as compared to guys that play for Cleveland.... I use them as an example because the spurs and golden state play team ball while cleveland plays a one on one offense. They all represent the best teams in the nba. The Knicks are trying to play system bask like the spurs and golden state.

anyway as far as free agents. I really like Evan Fournier at the 2. He plays alot like Sasha except he makes his shots.

I like David Lee off the bench. I like Eric Gordon and Marcus Thornton. Derozen would be a dream but he's not leaving Toronto. I'm sure they feel they are one player away from the finals.