Hollinger Stats - Estimated Wins Added - Qualified Shooting Guards
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
1	James Harden, HOU	81	38.2	.598	20.7	12.7	32.1	2.2	15.7	8.9	25.27	682.2	22.7
2	DeMar DeRozan, TOR	77	36.1	.550	14.5	8.1	28.6	2.6	11.4	7.1	21.63	462.0	15.4
3	Jimmy Butler, CHI	66	37.1	.564	18.6	7.7	23.9	3.2	11.4	7.4	21.34	396.0	13.2
4	Dwyane Wade, MIA	72	30.5	.519	18.0	10.7	30.6	4.4	10.7	7.6	20.67	332.8	11.1
5	Klay Thompson, GS	79	33.4	.597	9.3	7.8	24.3	1.5	10.4	6.2	18.69	322.5	10.8
6	C.J. McCollum, POR	79	34.8	.545	16.4	9.5	26.4	1.8	8.3	5.0	17.76	298.1	9.9
7	Khris Middleton, MIL	78	36.5	.562	18.4	10.1	22.4	1.8	10.3	6.1	16.94	273.2	9.1
8	Andrew Wiggins, MIN	80	35.1	.542	8.8	9.7	25.2	4.4	7.5	5.9	16.58	255.0	8.5
9	Victor Oladipo, ORL	72	33.0	.534	18.6	10.1	22.3	2.2	14.0	8.0	16.78	222.9	7.4
10	J.J. Redick, LAC	74	28.2	.631	9.2	6.8	20.7	0.5	6.6	3.6	17.56	219.5	7.3
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
11	Louis Williams, LAL	67	28.5	.584	14.5	9.3	21.9	1.7	8.1	4.8	17.77	206.9	6.9
12	Nicolas Batum, CHA	70	35.0	.546	25.7	13.1	21.3	2.4	16.8	9.6	15.72	190.5	6.4
13	Evan Fournier, ORL	78	32.5	.584	15.5	9.6	19.3	1.4	8.4	4.9	14.59	154.5	5.2
14	Rodney Hood, UTAH	78	32.3	.544	15.1	8.9	20.8	1.7	10.5	6.1	14.25	141.1	4.7
15	Monta Ellis, IND	80	33.9	.504	22.6	11.9	20.9	1.7	9.2	5.5	13.81	133.9	4.5
16	Bradley Beal, WSH	55	31.1	.547	14.1	9.7	23.8	2.6	9.8	6.2	15.63	130.7	4.4
17	Manu Ginobili, SA	58	19.6	.573	23.3	13.0	23.2	2.7	11.7	7.3	17.88	124.9	4.2
18	Jamal Crawford, LAC	79	26.9	.529	13.5	8.3	23.2	1.0	6.3	3.7	14.06	112.9	3.8
19	Evan Turner, BOS	80	28.0	.513	26.5	12.5	19.1	2.3	16.6	9.3	13.58	103.2	3.4
20	Jeremy Lamb, CHA	65	18.4	.527	11.4	7.1	20.5	3.9	18.5	11.1	15.90	96.4	3.2
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
21	Tyreke Evans, NO	25	30.6	.534	27.7	12.3	25.0	2.8	16.3	9.3	18.00	85.6	2.9
22	Gary Harris, DEN	75	32.0	.567	13.9	9.1	15.8	2.4	7.7	5.0	12.88	85.4	2.8
23	K Caldwell-Pope, DET	75	36.7	.522	10.8	8.0	17.4	2.6	8.6	5.5	12.41	78.5	2.6
24	J.R. Smith, CLE	        77	30.7	.542	12.1	5.5	17.1	2.1	8.3	5.2	12.42	67.8	2.3
25	Eric Gordon, NO	        45	32.9	.565	15.1	9.1	19.3	0.7	6.9	3.7	13.55	67.4	2.2
26	Tony Allen, MEM	        64	25.3	.505	10.3	11.5	16.0	7.0	14.1	10.4	12.94	59.1	2.0
27	Gerald Henderson, POR	72	19.9	.526	10.2	9.2	19.1	2.3	13.8	8.0	12.98	53.0	1.8
28	Devin Booker, PHX	75	27.7	.537	15.0	11.8	22.2	1.4	8.4	4.8	12.16	51.6	1.7
29	Allen Crabbe, POR	80	26.0	.569	11.0	7.3	15.6	1.4	9.8	5.6	12.05	48.1	1.6
     Sean Kilpatrick, DEN/BKN	30	19.5	.584	7.6	9.1	14.4	2.3	7.6	4.9	15.87	46.9	1.6
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
31	Alec Burks, UTAH	31	25.7	.520	12.4	10.0	24.7	2.4	13.6	8.0	14.40	46.4	1.5
        Seth Curry, SAC	        43	15.2	.630	19.2	9.6	16.5	1.3	7.6	4.5	15.01	43.9	1.5
33	Tyler Johnson, MIA	36	24.0	.579	19.9	11.8	16.3	3.8	10.3	7.2	13.78	42.2	1.4
34	Vince Carter, MEM	58	16.7	.525	11.9	7.5	17.7	3.5	13.8	8.4	13.06	37.0	1.2
        Langston Galloway, NY	81	24.7	.493	22.8	6.9	15.4	2.3	13.1	7.8	11.71	36.1	1.2
        Courtney Lee, MEM/CHA	78	29.7	.553	15.1	8.1	14.7	1.4	8.7	4.9	11.52	35.4	1.2
37	R Hollis-Jefferson, BKN	28	21.1	.516	19.0	11.3	13.2	7.3	21.7	14.4	14.20	32.6	1.1
38	Josh Richardson, MIA	50	20.9	.583	18.0	8.6	13.6	2.1	8.2	5.3	12.10	24.8	0.8
        Kevin Martin, MIN/SA	53	19.9	.527	9.8	8.8	21.8	1.4	10.3	5.9	12.08	24.8	0.8
40	Leandro Barbosa, GS	67	15.8	.546	15.5	9.7	17.1	2.9	8.1	5.6	11.89	21.9	0.7
RK	PLAYER	GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
41	E'Twaun Moore, CHI	59	21.4	.548	17.8	9.5	15.5	1.6	9.3	5.5	11.44	17.6	0.6
        Wesley Matthews, DAL	77	33.8	.534	13.1	6.8	16.1	1.1	8.7	4.9	10.93	16.6	0.6
43	Justin Anderson, DAL	54	11.4	.520	10.3	9.9	14.9	3.2	19.3	11.3	12.25	16.1	0.5
        Markel Brown, BKN	61	15.6	.507	18.4	10.7	18.3	2.7	11.2	6.9	11.61	15.7	0.5
        Arron Afflalo, NY	70	33.5	.530	13.3	7.6	17.0	1.1	11.1	6.2	10.94	15.4	0.5
        Jonathon Simmons, SA	53	14.7	.590	15.2	13.8	17.5	2.3	10.5	6.5	11.68	13.7	0.5
47	Archie Goodwin, PHX	56	19.4	.505	16.1	14.1	22.5	2.6	11.6	7.0	11.27	12.5	0.4
        Tim Hardaway Jr., ATL	50	17.0	.555	14.1	6.2	14.9	0.9	9.5	5.3	11.39	11.2	0.4
        Norman Powell, TOR	47	13.8	.508	14.1	10.0	16.7	2.7	14.4	8.7	11.60	10.6	0.4
50	Sasha Vujacic, NY	60	14.8	.510	19.2	10.6	16.4	3.2	14.4	8.9	11.27	10.2	0.3

BRIGGS wrote:

nixluva wrote:Seems a bit much to assume that Bryn would be an upgrade over Gallo at the NBA level. How can you be sure about that? People hate on Gallo but he's not at bad as people make him out to be considering he's in his 1st full NBA season and was undrafted. Look at where he's ranking.

Hollinger Stats - Estimated Wins Added - Qualified Shooting Guards
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
1	James Harden, HOU	81	38.2	.598	20.7	12.7	32.1	2.2	15.7	8.9	25.27	682.2	22.7
2	DeMar DeRozan, TOR	77	36.1	.550	14.5	8.1	28.6	2.6	11.4	7.1	21.63	462.0	15.4
3	Jimmy Butler, CHI	66	37.1	.564	18.6	7.7	23.9	3.2	11.4	7.4	21.34	396.0	13.2
4	Dwyane Wade, MIA	72	30.5	.519	18.0	10.7	30.6	4.4	10.7	7.6	20.67	332.8	11.1
5	Klay Thompson, GS	79	33.4	.597	9.3	7.8	24.3	1.5	10.4	6.2	18.69	322.5	10.8
6	C.J. McCollum, POR	79	34.8	.545	16.4	9.5	26.4	1.8	8.3	5.0	17.76	298.1	9.9
7	Khris Middleton, MIL	78	36.5	.562	18.4	10.1	22.4	1.8	10.3	6.1	16.94	273.2	9.1
8	Andrew Wiggins, MIN	80	35.1	.542	8.8	9.7	25.2	4.4	7.5	5.9	16.58	255.0	8.5
9	Victor Oladipo, ORL	72	33.0	.534	18.6	10.1	22.3	2.2	14.0	8.0	16.78	222.9	7.4
10	J.J. Redick, LAC	74	28.2	.631	9.2	6.8	20.7	0.5	6.6	3.6	17.56	219.5	7.3
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
11	Louis Williams, LAL	67	28.5	.584	14.5	9.3	21.9	1.7	8.1	4.8	17.77	206.9	6.9
12	Nicolas Batum, CHA	70	35.0	.546	25.7	13.1	21.3	2.4	16.8	9.6	15.72	190.5	6.4
13	Evan Fournier, ORL	78	32.5	.584	15.5	9.6	19.3	1.4	8.4	4.9	14.59	154.5	5.2
14	Rodney Hood, UTAH	78	32.3	.544	15.1	8.9	20.8	1.7	10.5	6.1	14.25	141.1	4.7
15	Monta Ellis, IND	80	33.9	.504	22.6	11.9	20.9	1.7	9.2	5.5	13.81	133.9	4.5
16	Bradley Beal, WSH	55	31.1	.547	14.1	9.7	23.8	2.6	9.8	6.2	15.63	130.7	4.4
17	Manu Ginobili, SA	58	19.6	.573	23.3	13.0	23.2	2.7	11.7	7.3	17.88	124.9	4.2
18	Jamal Crawford, LAC	79	26.9	.529	13.5	8.3	23.2	1.0	6.3	3.7	14.06	112.9	3.8
19	Evan Turner, BOS	80	28.0	.513	26.5	12.5	19.1	2.3	16.6	9.3	13.58	103.2	3.4
20	Jeremy Lamb, CHA	65	18.4	.527	11.4	7.1	20.5	3.9	18.5	11.1	15.90	96.4	3.2
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
21	Tyreke Evans, NO	25	30.6	.534	27.7	12.3	25.0	2.8	16.3	9.3	18.00	85.6	2.9
22	Gary Harris, DEN	75	32.0	.567	13.9	9.1	15.8	2.4	7.7	5.0	12.88	85.4	2.8
23	K Caldwell-Pope, DET	75	36.7	.522	10.8	8.0	17.4	2.6	8.6	5.5	12.41	78.5	2.6
24	J.R. Smith, CLE	        77	30.7	.542	12.1	5.5	17.1	2.1	8.3	5.2	12.42	67.8	2.3
25	Eric Gordon, NO	        45	32.9	.565	15.1	9.1	19.3	0.7	6.9	3.7	13.55	67.4	2.2
26	Tony Allen, MEM	        64	25.3	.505	10.3	11.5	16.0	7.0	14.1	10.4	12.94	59.1	2.0
27	Gerald Henderson, POR	72	19.9	.526	10.2	9.2	19.1	2.3	13.8	8.0	12.98	53.0	1.8
28	Devin Booker, PHX	75	27.7	.537	15.0	11.8	22.2	1.4	8.4	4.8	12.16	51.6	1.7
29	Allen Crabbe, POR	80	26.0	.569	11.0	7.3	15.6	1.4	9.8	5.6	12.05	48.1	1.6
     Sean Kilpatrick, DEN/BKN	30	19.5	.584	7.6	9.1	14.4	2.3	7.6	4.9	15.87	46.9	1.6
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
31	Alec Burks, UTAH	31	25.7	.520	12.4	10.0	24.7	2.4	13.6	8.0	14.40	46.4	1.5
        Seth Curry, SAC	        43	15.2	.630	19.2	9.6	16.5	1.3	7.6	4.5	15.01	43.9	1.5
33	Tyler Johnson, MIA	36	24.0	.579	19.9	11.8	16.3	3.8	10.3	7.2	13.78	42.2	1.4
34	Vince Carter, MEM	58	16.7	.525	11.9	7.5	17.7	3.5	13.8	8.4	13.06	37.0	1.2
        Langston Galloway, NY	81	24.7	.493	22.8	6.9	15.4	2.3	13.1	7.8	11.71	36.1	1.2
        Courtney Lee, MEM/CHA	78	29.7	.553	15.1	8.1	14.7	1.4	8.7	4.9	11.52	35.4	1.2
37	R Hollis-Jefferson, BKN	28	21.1	.516	19.0	11.3	13.2	7.3	21.7	14.4	14.20	32.6	1.1
38	Josh Richardson, MIA	50	20.9	.583	18.0	8.6	13.6	2.1	8.2	5.3	12.10	24.8	0.8
        Kevin Martin, MIN/SA	53	19.9	.527	9.8	8.8	21.8	1.4	10.3	5.9	12.08	24.8	0.8
40	Leandro Barbosa, GS	67	15.8	.546	15.5	9.7	17.1	2.9	8.1	5.6	11.89	21.9	0.7
RK	PLAYER	                GP	MPG	TS%	AST	TO	USG	ORR	DRR	REBR	PER	VA	EWA
41	E'Twaun Moore, CHI	59	21.4	.548	17.8	9.5	15.5	1.6	9.3	5.5	11.44	17.6	0.6
        Wesley Matthews, DAL	77	33.8	.534	13.1	6.8	16.1	1.1	8.7	4.9	10.93	16.6	0.6
43	Justin Anderson, DAL	54	11.4	.520	10.3	9.9	14.9	3.2	19.3	11.3	12.25	16.1	0.5
        Markel Brown, BKN	61	15.6	.507	18.4	10.7	18.3	2.7	11.2	6.9	11.61	15.7	0.5
        Arron Afflalo, NY	70	33.5	.530	13.3	7.6	17.0	1.1	11.1	6.2	10.94	15.4	0.5
        Jonathon Simmons, SA	53	14.7	.590	15.2	13.8	17.5	2.3	10.5	6.5	11.68	13.7	0.5
47	Archie Goodwin, PHX	56	19.4	.505	16.1	14.1	22.5	2.6	11.6	7.0	11.27	12.5	0.4
        Tim Hardaway Jr., ATL	50	17.0	.555	14.1	6.2	14.9	0.9	9.5	5.3	11.39	11.2	0.4
        Norman Powell, TOR	47	13.8	.508	14.1	10.0	16.7	2.7	14.4	8.7	11.60	10.6	0.4
50	Sasha Vujacic, NY	60	14.8	.510	19.2	10.6	16.4	3.2	14.4	8.9	11.27	10.2	0.3

Galloway is a 2 guard with a mechanical jump shot in a 1 g body. Bryn is a pure shooter

You totally miss the point! There's more to success at the NBA level than being a Pure shooter at the NCAA level. Gallo isn't even fully developed yet and he's not far off from being a very solid NBA player. Just cuz you don't like his shot doesn't mean Gallo isn't going to be able to continue to develop as a player. He actually made progress from last year to this year. I just think you're assuming an awful lot about Bryn Forbes.

I'm not saying you're wrong just that it's a long way to go for this kid to just come in and perform at the level that Gallo is at even if Gallo is not blowing anyone away just yet. Technically Gallo shouldn't even have made it to the NBA but he is here and actually performing pretty well.

I get that sometimes folks here are spitballing about what they WANT to happen. But in terms of what WILL happen - I think Galloway has been a good soldier for Phil and Rambis and will get a fair contract.

crzymdups wrote:I think the fact that the Knicks let Galloway go over the 2,000 minute mark that essentially tripled his qualifying offer from 1.1M to 2.8M means that they are bringing him back. He's as much a part of the Triangle culture Phil is trying to build as Rambis is.

I get that sometimes folks here are spitballing about what they WANT to happen. But in terms of what WILL happen - I think Galloway has been a good soldier for Phil and Rambis and will get a fair contract.

Well thats the whole gig. Can we find a player for 600k that can do what he does(probably better) and save that money?

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I think the fact that the Knicks let Galloway go over the 2,000 minute mark that essentially tripled his qualifying offer from 1.1M to 2.8M means that they are bringing him back. He's as much a part of the Triangle culture Phil is trying to build as Rambis is.

I get that sometimes folks here are spitballing about what they WANT to happen. But in terms of what WILL happen - I think Galloway has been a good soldier for Phil and Rambis and will get a fair contract.

Well thats the whole gig. Can we find a player for 600k that can do what he does(probably better) and save that money?

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I think the fact that the Knicks let Galloway go over the 2,000 minute mark that essentially tripled his qualifying offer from 1.1M to 2.8M means that they are bringing him back. He's as much a part of the Triangle culture Phil is trying to build as Rambis is.

I get that sometimes folks here are spitballing about what they WANT to happen. But in terms of what WILL happen - I think Galloway has been a good soldier for Phil and Rambis and will get a fair contract.

Well thats the whole gig. Can we find a player for 600k that can do what he does(probably better) and save that money?

Gallo is performing at a level that is higher than you give him credit for. He's coming off the bench and really is close to putting it all together. If he improves his shooting a bit he be an above average guard. If he goes to the basket just a bit more he could get there. The HARD PART is finding a good defensive SG. If his flaw is needing to improve his jumper I'd stick with him.

boy are you an annoying homer - Gallo sucks and he is gone (I HOPE!!)

That comment seems a bit rough! Gallo was a Undrafted player and he didn't even play a full season in his rookie year! Still his improvement is a fact. Dude is just a bit more experienced than a rookie and he can still refine his game. Why is he not afforded any credit for improving? He's had a better season than some guys that were drafted.

You're dissing him like he's been around for a long time and hasn't improved when in fact he has improved in his 2nd season. If the Knicks can find a better player of course they should look to bring him in but Gallo off the bench has a chance to be better next year.

martin wrote:

nixluva wrote:

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

crzymdups wrote:I think the fact that the Knicks let Galloway go over the 2,000 minute mark that essentially tripled his qualifying offer from 1.1M to 2.8M means that they are bringing him back. He's as much a part of the Triangle culture Phil is trying to build as Rambis is.

I get that sometimes folks here are spitballing about what they WANT to happen. But in terms of what WILL happen - I think Galloway has been a good soldier for Phil and Rambis and will get a fair contract.

Well thats the whole gig. Can we find a player for 600k that can do what he does(probably better) and save that money?

Gallo is performing at a level that is higher than you give him credit for. He's coming off the bench and really is close to putting it all together. If he improves his shooting a bit he be an above average guard. If he goes to the basket just a bit more he could get there. The HARD PART is finding a good defensive SG. If his flaw is needing to improve his jumper I'd stick with him.

boy are you an annoying homer - Gallo sucks and he is gone (I HOPE!!)

That comment seems a bit rough! Gallo was a Undrafted player and he didn't even play a full season in his rookie year! Still his improvement is a fact. Dude is just a bit more experienced than a rookie and he can still refine his game. Why is he not afforded any credit for improving? He's had a better season than some guys that were drafted.

You're dissing him like he's been around for a long time and hasn't improved when in fact he has improved in his 2nd season. If the Knicks can find a better player of course they should look to bring him in but Gallo off the bench has a chance to be better next year.

I am back and forth on Gallo and can't decide if he's just a very young guy going thru the development stages still before his real game appears or if he's just not cut out for more than 15th man on a good team. His first month was excellent offensively; since then he couldn't shoot, and it was very bad. Doesn't handle ball well, makes not good decisions with the ball, not really a plus defender. Excellent rebounder.

Don't know what to make of him. I'd keep him at $1-2M tops, after everything else is done.

Guys like Gallo are always the tough call, cuz they're just on the edge of being a useful reserve. The reason I keep posting advanced stat lists of players is to kind of have a gauge to measure our players against. Our guards are pretty much at the bottom, but Gallo for a good stretch was doing very well. I don't know what happened to him in terms of his shooting but it seems he lost something in his mechanics. There's a chance he can get that figured out over the summer.

I just hate to kill the guy when I think we highlight his flaws more than appreaciate what he's done in less than 2 full seasons of games!!!

2015-16 Real Plus-Minus - Shooting Guards - Defensive Real Plus Minus
RK	NAME	                TEAM	GP	MPG	ORPM	DRPM	RPM	WINS
1	Danny Green	        SA	79	26.1	-0.03	2.36	2.33	6.76
2	Tony Allen	        MEM	64	25.3	-1.48	2.34	0.86	3.93
3	R Hollis-Jefferson	BKN	29	21.2	-1.74	1.83	0.09	1.18
4	Iman Shumpert	        CLE	54	24.4	-1.48	1.64	0.16	2.67
5	Manu Ginobili	        SA	58	19.6	1.90	1.45	3.35	4.64
6	Jeremy Lamb	        CHA	66	18.6	-0.56	1.43	0.87	3.00
7	Kyle Korver	        ATL	80	30.0	-0.19	1.31	1.12	6.19
8	Justin Anderson	        DAL	55	11.8	-2.27	1.26	-1.01	0.78
9	Andre Roberson	        OKC	70	22.2	-1.79	1.11	-0.68	2.32
10	Jimmy Butler	        CHI	67	36.9	2.77	1.04	3.81	10.35
11	Garrett Temple	        WSH	80	24.4	-1.05	0.94	-0.11	3.73
12	Victor Oladipo	        ORL	72	33.0	1.68	0.77	2.45	8.44
13	Monta Ellis	        IND	81	33.8	0.16	0.75	0.91	7.00
14	Khris Middleton	        MIL	79	36.1	2.94	0.68	3.62	11.67
15	O.J. Mayo	        MIL	41	26.6	-1.64	0.68	-0.96	1.49
16	K Caldwell-Pope	        DET	76	36.7	0.76	0.40	1.16	7.41
17	Langston Galloway	NY	82	24.8	-0.65	0.31	-0.34	3.39
18	Evan Turner	        BOS	81	28.0	-1.67	0.22	-1.45	2.40
19	Alan Anderson	        WSH	13	14.8	-0.40	0.19	-0.21	0.27
20	Randy Foye	    DEN/OKC	81	20.3	-1.95	0.17	-1.78	1.35

Gallo is ranked 26 in RPM and 21 in RPM Wins. I don't think this is the best we'll see of him. Let's remember that he played 45 games in year one and this year was his 1st full season. As a bench player I don't think he's bad at all.

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6/24/2015 11:48 AM LAST EDITED: 6/24/2015 11:49 AM

Norman Powell will be THE absolute steal of the draft. Great second round--heck he may go 27 and down but I would LOVE to get this guy. His abilities scream that they translate to the NBA in a BIG way. Powerful long super athletic great defender beautiful penetration from any angle can push from 1 or 2. Hs a mid range jumpshot. Willing passer solid rebounder from 2 G can play bigger in terms of D. VERSATILE

You want to play good defense in the NBA? You better find defenders like Powell and Justin Andersen on the wing. Andersen will go to high but Powell can be had

Gallo fell off on his shooting but still ended up better than Powell in Real Plus Minus.

2015-16 Real Plus-Minus - Shooting Guards
RK	NAME	                TEAM	GP	MPG	ORPM	DRPM	RPM	WINS
1	James Harden	        HOU	82	38.1	5.27	-0.74	4.53	15.35
2	Jimmy Butler	        CHI	67	36.9	3.00	0.87	3.87	10.84
3	Khris Middleton	        MIL	79	36.1	2.98	0.73	3.71	12.19
4	Manu Ginobili	        SA	58	19.6	1.92	1.72	3.64	4.93
5	Danny Green	        SA	79	26.1	0.13	2.66	2.79	7.59
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26	Langston Galloway	NY	82	24.8	-0.79	0.39	-0.40	3.42
27	Eric Gordon	        NO	45	32.9	0.23	-0.69	-0.46	2.54
28	Josh Richardson	        MIA	52	21.3	-0.26	-0.32	-0.58	1.75
29	K.J. McDaniels	        HOU	37	6.4	-0.95	0.36	-0.59	0.39
30	Vince Carter	        MEM	60	16.8	0.02	-0.65	-0.63	1.59
31	Sasha Vujacic	        NY	61	14.9	-0.74	0.10	-0.64	1.43
32	Alan Anderson	        WSH	13	14.8	-0.67	-0.02	-0.69	0.30
33	Norman Powell	        TOR	49	14.8	-0.63	-0.07	-0.70	1.09

mreinman wrote:

nixluva wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:BRIGGS
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6/24/2015 11:48 AM LAST EDITED: 6/24/2015 11:49 AM

Norman Powell will be THE absolute steal of the draft. Great second round--heck he may go 27 and down but I would LOVE to get this guy. His abilities scream that they translate to the NBA in a BIG way. Powerful long super athletic great defender beautiful penetration from any angle can push from 1 or 2. Hs a mid range jumpshot. Willing passer solid rebounder from 2 G can play bigger in terms of D. VERSATILE

You want to play good defense in the NBA? You better find defenders like Powell and Justin Andersen on the wing. Andersen will go to high but Powell can be had

Gallo fell off on his shooting but still ended up better than Powell in Real Plus Minus.

2015-16 Real Plus-Minus - Shooting Guards
RK	NAME	                TEAM	GP	MPG	ORPM	DRPM	RPM	WINS
1	James Harden	        HOU	82	38.1	5.27	-0.74	4.53	15.35
2	Jimmy Butler	        CHI	67	36.9	3.00	0.87	3.87	10.84
3	Khris Middleton	        MIL	79	36.1	2.98	0.73	3.71	12.19
4	Manu Ginobili	        SA	58	19.6	1.92	1.72	3.64	4.93
5	Danny Green	        SA	79	26.1	0.13	2.66	2.79	7.59
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26	Langston Galloway	NY	82	24.8	-0.79	0.39	-0.40	3.42
27	Eric Gordon	        NO	45	32.9	0.23	-0.69	-0.46	2.54
28	Josh Richardson	        MIA	52	21.3	-0.26	-0.32	-0.58	1.75
29	K.J. McDaniels	        HOU	37	6.4	-0.95	0.36	-0.59	0.39
30	Vince Carter	        MEM	60	16.8	0.02	-0.65	-0.63	1.59
31	Sasha Vujacic	        NY	61	14.9	-0.74	0.10	-0.64	1.43
32	Alan Anderson	        WSH	13	14.8	-0.67	-0.02	-0.69	0.30
33	Norman Powell	        TOR	49	14.8	-0.63	-0.07	-0.70	1.09

you just jumped from win shares to real plus minus?