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TMS
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7/29/2004  2:03 PM
ESPN radio just reported it...are they stupid or what?

& i thought Scott Layden was a moron...Rod Thorn is outdoing him this summer.

Q. Rich will not have his offer matched, so that means he'll be a Sun next year...i wonder if Joe Johnson will be available in a trade now?
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7/29/2004  2:05 PM
no but you can bet Shawn MArion is available for a) expiring contracts and or b) a good center. Marion has 4-5 years of MAX money left on his deal.

Hey maybe we should get him too
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7/29/2004  2:09 PM
this is all money based. they get rid of 10mm in cap room which will enable them to sign 3-4 players that they need to fill out the roster and stay under 55mm in payroll.

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7/29/2004  2:13 PM
Posted by fishmike:

no but you can bet Shawn MArion is available for a) expiring contracts and or b) a good center. Marion has 4-5 years of MAX money left on his deal.

Hey maybe we should get him too

Yeah we can give them back Penny!

Seriously, though, this takes phoenix out of the running for Dampier. Looks like its our MLE or the Hawks' cap room for him

[Edited by - ctknicksfan on 07/29/2004 14:15:01]
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7/29/2004  2:13 PM
Posted by fishmike:

no but you can bet Shawn MArion is available for a) expiring contracts and or b) a good center. Marion has 4-5 years of MAX money left on his deal.

Hey maybe we should get him too

alrighty...i'll take him if you're gonna twist my arm.
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7/29/2004  2:24 PM
seriously... if TT was in his walk year I have no doubt a TT/Nazr deal would get us Marion. To bad this isnt next year.
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7/29/2004  2:44 PM
Yeah, seriously, I bet Matrix and Steph and Zeke are on a conference call riiiiight...NOW. What package could get us the Matrix? Tim Thomas might work, he does expire soon. Though, Chad Ford was saying they may try to dump Joe Johnson, as he'll be up for a nice extension next summer. Matrix does have a ridiculously long deal and he's getting worse and worse. I honestly Tim Thomas as much, if not more than Matrix.

Also, it does impact the Dampier situation nicely. Though I don't know why in the world Mullin would turn down Kurt Thomas. He loves vets who play D and can't jump.
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7/29/2004  2:45 PM
WOW. Kidd has got to be pissed!
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7/29/2004  2:52 PM
Posted by martin:

WOW. Kidd has got to be pissed!

he'll be next on his way out too i'm sure.
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7/29/2004  2:53 PM
btw, the Nets signed Jacque Vaughn...it wasn't a such a bad offseason for them afterall.
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7/29/2004  2:55 PM
Posted by martin:

WOW. Kidd has got to be pissed!

Looks like they're taking the "blow it up" approach to rebuilding. It's not like they were drawing any fans even when they were winning They didn't get Wilcox or even a first rounder out of it? At this point they should probably trade Kidd for young guys/expiring deals.
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7/29/2004  2:57 PM
Posted by TMS:
Posted by martin:

WOW. Kidd has got to be pissed!

he'll be next on his way out too i'm sure.

yup, right after they move to the Bronx. Man, 2 starting positions for a second rounder and 3 mid to low level first rounds. Rogers, gone.

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7/29/2004  3:01 PM
Kidd's not going anywhere until he proves that he's healthy.

Ratner is a disgrace.
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7/29/2004  3:13 PM
Posted by martin:

WOW. Kidd has got to be pissed!


Forget Craw, how aobut this:

New Jersey trades: PG Jason Kidd (15.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 9.2 apg in 36.5 minutes)
New Jersey receives: PG Moochie Norris (3.5 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.8 apg in 12.8 minutes)
PF Othella Harrington (4.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.6 minutes)
C Cezary Trybanski (0.1 ppg, 0.1 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.1 minutes)
PG Frank Williams (3.9 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 12.8 minutes)
C Dikembe Mutombo (5.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 23.0 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +2.2 ppg, +5.6 rpg, and -4.3 apg.

New York trades: PG Moochie Norris (3.5 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 1.8 apg in 12.8 minutes)
PF Othella Harrington (4.6 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.5 apg in 15.6 minutes)
C Cezary Trybanski (0.1 ppg, 0.1 rpg, 0.0 apg in 2.1 minutes)
PG Frank Williams (3.9 ppg, 1.0 rpg, 2.2 apg in 12.8 minutes)
C Dikembe Mutombo (5.6 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 0.4 apg in 23.0 minutes)
New York receives: PG Jason Kidd (15.5 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 9.2 apg in 67 games)
Change in team outlook: -2.2 ppg, -5.6 rpg, and +4.3 apg.

TRADE ACCEPTED

just kidding

[Edited by - nyballer on 07/29/2004 15:19:07]
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7/29/2004  3:20 PM
Posted by fishmike:

no but you can bet Shawn MArion is available for a) expiring contracts and or b) a good center. Marion has 4-5 years of MAX money left on his deal.

Hey maybe we should get him too

if marion is available, and they want to clear cap room we could send them deke othella and nazr, it should work cap-wise (even though i dont think phoenix would consider it). i doubt they would want to get rid of marion though, hes more of a 3 - joe johnson is probably the one who will be leaving
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7/29/2004  3:37 PM
Kidd for Antoine Walker!!!

then, next year they have no payroll
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7/29/2004  3:39 PM
people on the espn boards are saying they also get a 9.2 mil trade exception from it.
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7/29/2004  3:40 PM
Hehehehehehe!!! Nets fans must be kicking themselves in the head. Wait a min...what Nets fans? Hehehehehe!!!
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7/29/2004  3:43 PM
why? Joe J is only and RFA next year so the Suns wont have to overpay. Marion is owed max money for 4-5 years. Matrix is gone... trust me.
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7/29/2004  4:14 PM
Posted by fishmike:

seriously... if TT was in his walk year I have no doubt a TT/Nazr deal would get us Marion. To bad this isnt next year.
Can it be worked out in a 3 way deal where another team's expiring contracts are sent to Phoenix; we give up our expiring contacts and maybe TT, Frank, and/or Nazy, and take back one reasonably bad contract from each team?
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