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If you put 5-9 Isiah Thomas on the Knicks
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BRIGGS
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3/27/2016  5:23 PM
and put Carmelo on the Celtics as is--what would the teams record be? My bet---flipped or close to it.
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3/27/2016  5:34 PM
Celtics would probably be of similar record imo, maybe slightly better. They have guys who can still facilitate in the place of IT.

Not sure how the Knicks would do. IT needs the ball. if given the same green light, the Knicks would improve as well.

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3/27/2016  6:30 PM
Celtics would make changes to there roster with all the pieces they have and build a winning team regardless.

Y compare him to Isiah Thomas though who was a 2nd round non *blue chip* prospect. Y not compare him to #5 pick blue chip prospect Marcus Smart since lottery picks are what we want to trade Carmelo for.

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3/27/2016  6:53 PM
newyorknewyork wrote:Celtics would make changes to there roster with all the pieces they have and build a winning team regardless.

Y compare him to Isiah Thomas though who was a 2nd round non *blue chip* prospect. Y not compare him to #5 pick blue chip prospect Marcus Smart since lottery picks are what we want to trade Carmelo for.

Isiah Thomas is not draft pick--hes an all star NBA player.

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3/27/2016  7:10 PM
Lol.
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3/27/2016  7:13 PM
The main symptom of winning basketball is efficiency.
Same for winning player.
Melo efficiency was always lacking and is bad-awful lately.
And with his high usage rate it is detrimental to team overall success.
Thomas on other hand is very efficient player even with having ball in his hands a lot.
For Melo to became a plus-sum player he should be complimented with a bunch of rebounders/defenders/facilitators who will clean up his volume shooting mess.
Or he should be on the team with other stars who will take ball out of his hands and use him as sharp shooter/post up player when the game situation is dictated.
Melo was always a master to get away from the situation when he is not the main (and only) focal point.
This is great for his brand and pocket but sucks for the team he plays for.
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3/27/2016  9:53 PM
arkrud wrote:The main symptom of winning basketball is efficiency.
Same for winning player.
Melo efficiency was always lacking and is bad-awful lately.
And with his high usage rate it is detrimental to team overall success.
Thomas on other hand is very efficient player even with having ball in his hands a lot.
For Melo to became a plus-sum player he should be complimented with a bunch of rebounders/defenders/facilitators who will clean up his volume shooting mess.
Or he should be on the team with other stars who will take ball out of his hands and use him as sharp shooter/post up player when the game situation is dictated.
Melo was always a master to get away from the situation when he is not the main (and only) focal point.
This is great for his brand and pocket but sucks for the team he plays for.

I agree with you. Efficiency is the most important aspect of a basketball player Melo is an inefficient scorer. But he has tried to be a better all around player he realizes his inefficiency and now he is implementing assists to his game which was another weakness and also he has given a better effort defensively. He is trying his best he will never be a 50% FG player that is asking to much. Good player who definitely isn't deserving of super star status.

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3/28/2016  12:09 AM
Vmart wrote:
arkrud wrote:The main symptom of winning basketball is efficiency.
Same for winning player.
Melo efficiency was always lacking and is bad-awful lately.
And with his high usage rate it is detrimental to team overall success.
Thomas on other hand is very efficient player even with having ball in his hands a lot.
For Melo to became a plus-sum player he should be complimented with a bunch of rebounders/defenders/facilitators who will clean up his volume shooting mess.
Or he should be on the team with other stars who will take ball out of his hands and use him as sharp shooter/post up player when the game situation is dictated.
Melo was always a master to get away from the situation when he is not the main (and only) focal point.
This is great for his brand and pocket but sucks for the team he plays for.

I agree with you. Efficiency is the most important aspect of a basketball player Melo is an inefficient scorer. But he has tried to be a better all around player he realizes his inefficiency and now he is implementing assists to his game which was another weakness and also he has given a better effort defensively. He is trying his best he will never be a 50% FG player that is asking to much. Good player who definitely isn't deserving of super star status.

The only way to became a superstar in NBA is to win... win a lot.
Not necessary the chip but to be a part of the contender, will you team to be a contender.
Nobody was able to do it all alone even the greatest or great.
And to get into this land player need to sacrifice. Sacrifice some $$$, some comfort, some ego.
So far Melo failed to do that but he is still in position to get it.
Only time will tell.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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3/28/2016  3:11 PM
Thomas is playing great but I worry about how he goes off the rails at times. Not like Nate used to with the Knicks, but enough to give me pause.
If you put 5-9 Isiah Thomas on the Knicks

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