It's the oldest tactic. If you can't outscore them then you'd better be able to stop them. Slow their offense down enough to give yourself a chance. Your gonna need 3 perimeter defenders with enough size, lateral quickness and length to deal with all the motion the Warriors run. It's possible to achieve this but you have to be totally committed to it.

ActionJackson wrote:

nixluva wrote:It's the oldest tactic. If you can't outscore them then you'd better be able to stop them. Slow their offense down enough to give yourself a chance. Your gonna need 3 perimeter defenders with enough size, lateral quickness and length to deal with all the motion the Warriors run. It's possible to achieve this but you have to be totally committed to it.

Agreed and I'm not saying that they aren't an amazingly talented shooting team with a great offensive scheme that they execute to perfection but I would love to see what happens if you're allowed to be a little physical with them. Shooters want to shoot without being touched, their arms get a little bit shorter when they get fouled and have to worry about absorbing a blow when they come down. Now maybe Curry could still connect on 60% of those high arcing rainbows while being fouled & maybe he has a the Iverson type toughness to drive into the paint and score or hit free throws after being blasted by the big men but to date I haven't seen that cause we play in a low physicality "don't touch me cause I'm fragile & very marketable" league (except for Melo who gets fouled on every single drive to the basket and yet the refs swallow the whistle every damn time...maybe he needs one of his kids to play up the cutesy angle like Riley). I swear if I saw him get clobbered and that damn mouthpiece was knocked into the 3rd row just one time and he got up limped to the free throw line hit two and then kept playing without fear, I would have an entirely different opinion of him being in the GOAT conversation.

I'm an old school cat too so it gives me a tingle watching centers shooting 3s and watching guys dance around the perimeter untouched. That's the way the nba wants to play the game.

One thing that will kill the league for good is outlawing hack a shack. These guys need to learn to shoot free throws. It's one thing is you want to protect the offense player on the perimeter and allow hither scoring games. It's another thing entirely when you start making it easy for big men to sit in the pick and roller all day and not take a single free throw all game. Makes the game so soft.

Warriors are fully taking advantage of this era's rules....we should applaud them!

Now if you were to have a debate 96 Bulls vs 16 Warriors, you'd have to apply the same logic. Which era's rules would you play in the 90s or 2010's? Either way I'd give the edge to Jordan and Jax Bulls, MJ would not simply allow Curry to go off and would take it upon himself to murder and destroy him mentally and physically. Pip would lock down Klay, and Rodman would give Draymond some noogies.

EnySpree wrote:The Warriors are a product of this eras rules.... that's why our Knicks were so great in the 90s. They dominated the rules of the time. If our 90s knicks played this golden state team with 90s era rules, knicks would sweep them in s 7 game series. In return this golden state team would likely beat our 90s era knicks in a 7 game due to rules.

I'm an old school cat too so it gives me a tingle watching centers shooting 3s and watching guys dance around the perimeter untouched. That's the way the nba wants to play the game.

One thing that will kill the league for good is outlawing hack a shack. These guys need to learn to shoot free throws. It's one thing is you want to protect the offense player on the perimeter and allow hither scoring games. It's another thing entirely when you start making it easy for big men to sit in the pick and roller all day and not take a single free throw all game. Makes the game so soft.

so biased and so wrong. The warriors sweep the knicks and they probably call it after just 2 games because of the 100 point mercy spread.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time. Jordan, the greatest player of all time and greatest competitor of all time, is not as skilled as Curry. And he certainly could not guard Curry better than the best defenders in today's game. You are telling me that as dominant as Curry is, Jordan would be able to chase him around the perimeter and stop him from getting the stuff that he is getting now? Please. Jordan is the greatest of all time, but not a superhero like that. Curry has opened the game up. Jordan was a great defender, but the game was played 22 feet and in, not 30 feet and in like Curry is playing it today. Curry is faster than Jordan too. The Bulls might be the one team that could give this team problems today beccause Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper had a very unique versatility for that era which would translate well today, but in no way is anyone stopping what Curry is doing. He is doing it against better athletes today than existed in the 90s, bottom line. The rules were different, but it doesn't change how good players are today. You and the rest of the old timers (retired players) need to accept players and teams are better today and stop treating it like jordan would average 40/10/10 and hold Curry to 15 ppg.

Knixkik wrote:Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time.

First of all let me just say that as a Knick fan I despise Jordan but this statement of yours is just absolutely ridiculous. Curry is a very skilled shooter and what makes him amazing is the ability to shoot off the dribble with the accuracy formerly reserved for stand in the corner spot up guys but where your argument for GOAT falls flat is what else does he do??? Defense....Not so much...Assits to Turnover ratio....ehhh....Post Up game....to little to even think about it. He is at best a man in the right place at the right time but in any other era he would be what his father was, a very good role player.

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Warriors are quickly becoming the greatest team of all time, no question about it. I don't care about how the eras compare. Old school players need to get real about today's basketball. While a lot of us may like the old school style NBA better, bottom line is in 2016 players are simply better. Players from the 70s, 80s, and 90s don't compare to today's players. Today's players are too skilled and athletic. Yes, many of yester-years stars would translate just fine in today's game, but the average rotation player would not. Today the league is faster, more athletic, and has much more depth. The players get better, not worst. GS would run circles around any championship teams from previous decades.

Not true. Not one of these players are as skilled and athletic as Jordan and Pippen in their prime. Maybe Lebron, but you think Curry could get off those ridiculous shots off with Jordan(9 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS AND 1 DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE YEAR) and Pippen(8 ALL NBA DEFENSIVE FIRST TEAMS, 1 SECOND TEAM) face guarding him all day? These guys were like Draymond Green before Draymond was fashionable. They could guard 3 or 4 positions like an octopus, then punish you on the offensive end. And I won't even bring up Rodman who won back to back defensive player of the year awards in Detroit before leading the league in rebounding for 7 years straight.

Get off your recency bias high horse. Warriors, though great, are a product of their no hand check no breathing on offensive player era.

Just stop. You couldn't be more wrong. Curry is the most skilled player of all time. Jordan, the greatest player of all time and greatest competitor of all time, is not as skilled as Curry. And he certainly could not guard Curry better than the best defenders in today's game. You are telling me that as dominant as Curry is, Jordan would be able to chase him around the perimeter and stop him from getting the stuff that he is getting now? Please. Jordan is the greatest of all time, but not a superhero like that. Curry has opened the game up. Jordan was a great defender, but the game was played 22 feet and in, not 30 feet and in like Curry is playing it today. Curry is faster than Jordan too. The Bulls might be the one team that could give this team problems today beccause Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, and Harper had a very unique versatility for that era which would translate well today, but in no way is anyone stopping what Curry is doing. He is doing it against better athletes today than existed in the 90s, bottom line. The rules were different, but it doesn't change how good players are today.

LMFAO! You don't think Phil Jackson couldn't devise a scheme to stop that bullshyt with his stable of thoroughbreds. His phucking disciple Kerr played on that 96 team!

No, Phil is not some wizard, he would not think of something that today's coaches can't. If he was, the Knicks would already be a contender. You and the rest of the old timers (retired players) need to stop acting like all those teams and players were better. Jordan would not average 40/10/10 today and hold Curry to 15 ppg, Big O would not average a triple double today, Wilt would not average 50 ppg and 25 rpg today, etc. It's just not happening. And while you mention Kerr, would he even be a high-quality NBA player today, when Jimmer can't even make a roster? The game has changed man, players and teams are better and have more depth. Bulls are the one timeless exception that could compete with today's warriors, but you are fooling yourself if you think they would dominate them.