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I didn't think it was possible, but Rambis is trying to sabotage and destroy Porzingis game worst than Fisher.
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ChuckBuck
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3/9/2016  3:00 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/kristaps-porzingis-game-lacking-impact-article-1.2558290

It's bad enough Fisher didn't develop KP properly, never really called plays for him, and relegated him to just playing catch when Melo felt like giving it up. Now Rambis is pretty much trying to destroy the rest of KP's confidence simply to try to impress Jackson. "Hey I can make this triangle thing work! Watch what these vets can do with extended minutes!"

Now is the time to develop the youths as much as possible. Call some plays for him, make him the focal point so he can learn, run some pick and pop with Jerian, spring him on some backdoor lobs...LET THE ROOKIES PLAY GODDAMIT!!!

Instead we're on some triangle vision quest for a playoffs that's vanished a long long time ago...
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sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.
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3/9/2016  3:24 PM
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.
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3/9/2016  4:03 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/9/2016  4:04 PM
I'm not a fan of Rambis and think he's a pretty terrible coach, but in his defense, KP looked horrible last night. He couldn't establish position in the paint; he was fumbling the ball on every pass and his jumper was way off. He was also bad on the defensive end getting abused down low by Jokic. He didn't deserve minutes last night--not that many of the other players did.
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3/9/2016  4:07 PM
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I agree he has hit a wall, but we should never bench him. Manage his minutes but keep him starting. No need to destroy his confidence with so little to gain this season.
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3/9/2016  4:22 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.

Then why are you all TMZ and "Rambis is trying to sabotage and destroy Porzingis game worst than Fisher"?

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martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.

Then why are you all TMZ and "Rambis is trying to sabotage and destroy Porzingis game worst than Fisher"?

He's not exactly inspiring KP's best play either. Actually KP's worst stretch as a rookie so far, no double doubles since Fisher's firing.

He's a big man coach that isn't coaching his prized big man. He's coaching like we're a game out of the 8th seed, instead of throwing the youths out there to gain valuable NBA action. We definitely should bring as much attention to this as#hole as humanly possible.
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3/9/2016  4:44 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.

Then why are you all TMZ and "Rambis is trying to sabotage and destroy Porzingis game worst than Fisher"?

He's not exactly inspiring KP's best play either. Actually KP's worst stretch as a rookie so far, no double doubles since Fisher's firing.

He's a big man coach that isn't coaching his prized big man. He's coaching like we're a game out of the 8th seed, instead of throwing the youths out there to gain valuable NBA action. We definitely should bring as much attention to this as#hole as humanly possible.

You are like a pouty, cranky child who is throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't immediately get what he wants.

You think Rambis is an *******? Is this the extent of your posting? Seriously man WTF

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3/9/2016  4:54 PM
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.

Then why are you all TMZ and "Rambis is trying to sabotage and destroy Porzingis game worst than Fisher"?

He's not exactly inspiring KP's best play either. Actually KP's worst stretch as a rookie so far, no double doubles since Fisher's firing.

He's a big man coach that isn't coaching his prized big man. He's coaching like we're a game out of the 8th seed, instead of throwing the youths out there to gain valuable NBA action. We definitely should bring as much attention to this as#hole as humanly possible.

You are like a pouty, cranky child who is throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't immediately get what he wants.

You think Rambis is an *******? Is this the extent of your posting? Seriously man WTF

I'd much rather have Thibs, a real coach, but let's see what Zenmaster decides to do this summer.
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3/9/2016  5:38 PM
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
martin wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.

Then why are you all TMZ and "Rambis is trying to sabotage and destroy Porzingis game worst than Fisher"?

He's not exactly inspiring KP's best play either. Actually KP's worst stretch as a rookie so far, no double doubles since Fisher's firing.

He's a big man coach that isn't coaching his prized big man. He's coaching like we're a game out of the 8th seed, instead of throwing the youths out there to gain valuable NBA action. We definitely should bring as much attention to this as#hole as humanly possible.

You are like a pouty, cranky child who is throwing a temper tantrum when he doesn't immediately get what he wants.

You think Rambis is an *******? Is this the extent of your posting? Seriously man WTF

I'd much rather have Thibs, a real coach, but let's see what Zenmaster decides to do this summer.

that's nice, what's all this other crap about sabotage, destroy and *******? just a TMZ spaz moment?

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ChuckBuck wrote:
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.

I hate the way Rambis takes him out when he is getting mauled by opposing centers. Or when he is shooting 25 footers at an alarming pace for a 7'3 guy. And what gives shortening his minutes when he has a bruised shin and is showing signs of fatigue. Who does he think he is? The coach. But if he takes him out one more time when he misses defensive assignments, I am just going to lose it.

Btw, you do know that most rookies sat in their first year and learned from the bench and practices.
And there are negatives to putting rookies in too early as it may affect their confidence. (Grant)
But it's definately the coach that went 3 for 11 and made Jokic look like an All Star last night. F#**n Rambis!

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ChuckBuck wrote:
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.


"Rambis is trying to sabotage and destroy Porzingis' game"................"I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. SMDH. LOL
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newyorker4ever wrote:
ChuckBuck wrote:
franco12 wrote:sorry - I think its simply that KP has hit the rookie wall.

Just cause he's 7'3" doesn't mean he is a man. He is a 'boy' in many ways. He's never played this many minutes/games/level of play.

He should probably go to the bench, start D Will, and bring KP along slowly for the rest of the year.

I do have concerns about Rambis, but I don't think he is trying to ruin KP per se.

I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se, but he's probably utilizing him wrong, and not running KP off enough screens and such. Or putting him where he can face and shoot over anyone 10-15 feet away from the basket.


"Rambis is trying to sabotage and destroy Porzingis' game"................"I don't think he's personally trying to ruin KP per se" Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. SMDH. LOL

if he was doing it on purpose I would respect that/him. His incompetence is gross and his cobol training really hurt him.

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/9/2016  9:51 PM
Rambis is really messing up KP. You don't bench your prized player. You Coach him up. Benching is for lazy or stupid players. KP is neither
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3/9/2016  11:13 PM
Would rather KP get the minutes, but in this case I dont mind KP sitting some. You can see the difference in approach towards the players. Rambis is more confrontational, first time he pulled KP aside as head coach, he took Porzingis aside, and judging from the look on his face it must have stung a bit. He's been tougher on KP than Fisher, and it looks sometimes like its wearing on him. Would rather KP sat instead of KP catching more flak than he can handle right now.

This tougher approach with Porzingis might in fact pay off down the road, but combine it with everything else KP has had to deal with at 19-20 its probably getting to him now and then. Rambis has to strike the right balance with KP. We'll see what happens.
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3/10/2016  1:19 AM
Kp is kind of caught between positions and also has a bit of a problem with body control because of his height. In the off season he's going to need to work on core strength and if the Knicks are smart hook him up with Kevin Mchale for a few weeks
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3/10/2016  4:07 AM
KP has played and learned enough this season- I'm happy for him just to play 20mins per game going forward. Really he's just at the point where he needs to get some work done in the offseason
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3/10/2016  4:51 AM
See you guys are looking at this all wrong. I was too but now I see what's going on. KP is getting the Kevin Love treatment when Rambis did similar things to him. Look a=how that turned out for Love after Rambis left.
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3/10/2016  10:33 AM
yellowboy90 wrote:See you guys are looking at this all wrong. I was too but now I see what's going on. KP is getting the Kevin Love treatment when Rambis did similar things to him. Look a=how that turned out for Love after Rambis left.

damn! you'raaaa good

so here is what phil is thinking ....
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3/10/2016  11:48 AM
KP is in the wrong position. He's not a PF with todays small ball teams. Melo is not a SF (anymore). Take KP out, and everybody is lined up in their natural positions.

The problem is KP is in between positions right now (as Briggs stated). Depending on which capability comes first, he either needs to bulk up and play more center. Or increase his agility and play more PF. I think both strategies is difficult for KP. He's not going to get any faster in 1 year. And he's not going to gain enough weight to play center in 1 year.

The best position for KP right now is a 6th man role. Been saying this back when I was the only one. Yes he was a high pick and high picks should be able to impact right now. But KP is an international high pick player. As you can see, most of the players his age are physically ready to play their position. KP isn't there yet. To me, KP looks like a late bloomer. The question is, will NY have the patiences to let KP develop?

As a 6 man....the coach can bring him in at either PF or center, depending on the matchups. Thats a better strategy than forcing KP to play every PF in the NBA. Right now you have to play him based on matchups, until he fully develops.

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