arkrud wrote:So Kobe, Lebron, and Durant do not need point guards but Melo needs one...
It is not about what Melo need but about what Melo accepts.
Melo needs a guy like Billups who is a leader but not center of attention.
Where to get this one in generation player? And is Melo worth the search?

What? They don't need PG's? Sorry Kobe had a tiny Hall of Famer named Shaq, Horry and very good 3pt. Shooting. Lebron has Irving and had Mario Chalmers in his best years. And last I checked Westbrook not bad.

My take away was that no good PG will want to play in the Triangle and Melo's prime years are numbered and needs a good point guard. Like every team does. But what does he know. Just a former Champ. PG and future HOF.

EnySpree wrote:I don't like Chaunceys commentator style. He wants to be hard and no nonsense. He's also using Melo to get that out there. Is kinda disgusting if you ask me. He's a former player and knows what is like to be slandered by the media. Now he's doing it and using his insider information as a former teamate. Also he's trying to bring the Knicks down too. Players holds Chauncey on a pedestal. If he says a point guard will not want to play in the triangle guys will follow that based on that alone. He's disgusting.

I think that he is great and refreshing. He was under appreciated as a player and now as a commentator.

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I don't like Chaunceys commentator style. He wants to be hard and no nonsense. He's also using Melo to get that out there. Is kinda disgusting if you ask me. He's a former player and knows what is like to be slandered by the media. Now he's doing it and using his insider information as a former teamate. Also he's trying to bring the Knicks down too. Players holds Chauncey on a pedestal. If he says a point guard will not want to play in the triangle guys will follow that based on that alone. He's disgusting.

I think that he is great and refreshing. He was under appreciated as a player and now as a commentator.

Not when he's slandering your team. His comments hurt our free agent chances and helps fuel the potential drama surrounding Melo. We don't need that. Nothing refreshing about about slander and sabotage.

not sabotage. He is saying what you don't want to hear and what every PG thinks.

the triangle will get us a wrotten but no way a connelly.

they better fix this stupidity is what he is saying and he is right. This is not your fathers basketball anymore.

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I don't like Chaunceys commentator style. He wants to be hard and no nonsense. He's also using Melo to get that out there. Is kinda disgusting if you ask me. He's a former player and knows what is like to be slandered by the media. Now he's doing it and using his insider information as a former teamate. Also he's trying to bring the Knicks down too. Players holds Chauncey on a pedestal. If he says a point guard will not want to play in the triangle guys will follow that based on that alone. He's disgusting.

I think that he is great and refreshing. He was under appreciated as a player and now as a commentator.

Not when he's slandering your team. His comments hurt our free agent chances and helps fuel the potential drama surrounding Melo. We don't need that. Nothing refreshing about about slander and sabotage.

not sabotage. He is saying what you don't want to hear and what every PG thinks.

the triangle will get us a wrotten but no way a connelly.

they better fix this stupidity is what he is saying and he is right. This is not your fathers basketball anymore.

Saying what I don't want to hear? Not my father's basketball?

It's better to fire Phil.... then murder Dolan. Only then can we get a real owner and a real GM that will hire Thibbs. We could sign Thibbs to a 10 year deal because we're going to need that much time to collect our own draft picks enough to finally get all star players to compete. So by 2021 the knicks could finally start making a run in the playoffs.

Refreshing **** that you daddy don't want to hear because he will die of old age before anything good happens with the Knicks.

By then 2021 Melo will be retired and commentatin . We'll hear him talk about how much Kristaps balls shrink in the shower that's why he can't lead the Knicks to the playoffs. It will be so refreshing.

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I don't like Chaunceys commentator style. He wants to be hard and no nonsense. He's also using Melo to get that out there. Is kinda disgusting if you ask me. He's a former player and knows what is like to be slandered by the media. Now he's doing it and using his insider information as a former teamate. Also he's trying to bring the Knicks down too. Players holds Chauncey on a pedestal. If he says a point guard will not want to play in the triangle guys will follow that based on that alone. He's disgusting.

I think that he is great and refreshing. He was under appreciated as a player and now as a commentator.

Not when he's slandering your team. His comments hurt our free agent chances and helps fuel the potential drama surrounding Melo. We don't need that. Nothing refreshing about about slander and sabotage.

not sabotage. He is saying what you don't want to hear and what every PG thinks.

the triangle will get us a wrotten but no way a connelly.

they better fix this stupidity is what he is saying and he is right. This is not your fathers basketball anymore.

Saying what I don't want to hear? Not my father's basketball?

It's better to fire Phil.... then murder Dolan. Only then can we get a real owner and a real GM that will hire Thibbs. We could sign Thibbs to a 10 year deal because we're going to need that much time to collect our own draft picks enough to finally get all star players to compete. So by 2021 the knicks could finally start making a run in the playoffs.

Refreshing **** that you daddy don't want to hear because he will die of old age before anything good happens with the Knicks.

By then 2021 Melo will be retired and commentatin . We'll hear him talk about how much Kristaps balls shrink in the shower that's why he can't lead the Knicks to the playoffs. It will be so refreshing.

we should extend phil and melo to 10 year triangle contracts. And give dolan lots of cuddly hugs. That should get us out of this mess.

Or .... bring in guts like ainge and stevens who want to win with todays data and style and not force us to drive a studabaker.

RonRon wrote:I think Billups would do wonders as a development coach or an assistant coach
CA is NOT a leader, it simply is not his game, but we need to be able to groom our players with respectable former players...

Talents such as Billups and Wallace who both played in NY in limited games
They both HAVE NEVER played in the Triangle but certainly would have FIT in the system and would have done very well in their primes...

Rasheed Wallace *would be great for KP and future PF/C's in the Triangle*
Billups *would be great for Galloway and Triangle PG's*

both FIT IN TRIANGLE and provide leadership, that can identify with the current players and have multiple skill sets, with versatile skill sets, high BB IQ, that fit in our system, that were LEADERS on that Detroit team that won 1 ring but were a dominant team with ALL STARS for about 5-6years together

other recent NBA players as development coaches

Shane Battier as a DEFENSIVE coach for our wings and the transition of NCAA to NBA players (as he was once the #1 goto man in Duke and played multiple different roles in his NBA career

Andrew Bynum *if we sign Whiteside*
Lamar Odom *would be great for a point forward such as David Lee*
Pau Gasol when he retires and was crucial with Odom with their versatility, ability to rebound, pass, within the Triangle

Add in Luke Walton as our head coach

other possible cap friendly players

If we can get Shabazz Muhammad to play point forward
Evan Turner as a backup point forward/SG, SF, who can replace Affallo, has improved his post up game

PJ Hairson *dont believe his team option was picked up*
Lance Stephenson *as a backup point forward, and bring in Brian Shaw who ran a bit of Triangle as the Pacers lead assistant*

DMO *has a very good post game but struggled this year as he is recovering from his surgeries*

Wesley Johnson/James Johnson with Lance Thomas *players that could defend multiple position*
Matt Barnes/Jared Dudley

David Lee/Josh Smith
Trevor Booker

Nene/Kris Humphries

Jeremy Lin would be a solid option at PG as well as many other contract friendly players while we maintain our cap flexibility for 2017 cream of the crop

With players such as Lowry/CP3/Curry *unlikely*, Blake Griffen, and many talents that would be attainable ONLY if we can lure Luke Walton over and show much improvements

Will CA opt out of his no trade clause this summer?
We are unlikely to compete for a ring but a deal with Boston and possibly Clippers or another team could help all 3 teams and is realistic....

No doubt in my mind that Walton is the Lakers head coach next season if Scott doesn't come back. He has a much better chance of replicating the conditions that gave GS so much success in LA. Look at their backcourt. Russell is playing like I was confident he would. They will have tons of cap room, probably less Drama, although its still LA, lol.

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I don't like Chaunceys commentator style. He wants to be hard and no nonsense. He's also using Melo to get that out there. Is kinda disgusting if you ask me. He's a former player and knows what is like to be slandered by the media. Now he's doing it and using his insider information as a former teamate. Also he's trying to bring the Knicks down too. Players holds Chauncey on a pedestal. If he says a point guard will not want to play in the triangle guys will follow that based on that alone. He's disgusting.

I think that he is great and refreshing. He was under appreciated as a player and now as a commentator.

Not when he's slandering your team. His comments hurt our free agent chances and helps fuel the potential drama surrounding Melo. We don't need that. Nothing refreshing about about slander and sabotage.

not sabotage. He is saying what you don't want to hear and what every PG thinks.

the triangle will get us a wrotten but no way a connelly.

they better fix this stupidity is what he is saying and he is right. This is not your fathers basketball anymore.

Saying what I don't want to hear? Not my father's basketball?

It's better to fire Phil.... then murder Dolan. Only then can we get a real owner and a real GM that will hire Thibbs. We could sign Thibbs to a 10 year deal because we're going to need that much time to collect our own draft picks enough to finally get all star players to compete. So by 2021 the knicks could finally start making a run in the playoffs.

Refreshing **** that you daddy don't want to hear because he will die of old age before anything good happens with the Knicks.

By then 2021 Melo will be retired and commentatin . We'll hear him talk about how much Kristaps balls shrink in the shower that's why he can't lead the Knicks to the playoffs. It will be so refreshing.

we should extend phil and melo to 10 year triangle contracts. And give dolan lots of cuddly hugs. That should get us out of this mess.

Or .... bring in guts like ainge and stevens who want to win with todays data and style and not force us to drive a studabaker.

+1. Some fans on this board just don't get it. The Knicks roster and the Triangle are the fat ugly 40 year old girl that thinks she is still single because no one gets her. Why the heck would a solid PG or top free agent come here. And let alone any good coach that would become the next puppet?

HofstraBBall wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

mreinman wrote:

EnySpree wrote:I don't like Chaunceys commentator style. He wants to be hard and no nonsense. He's also using Melo to get that out there. Is kinda disgusting if you ask me. He's a former player and knows what is like to be slandered by the media. Now he's doing it and using his insider information as a former teamate. Also he's trying to bring the Knicks down too. Players holds Chauncey on a pedestal. If he says a point guard will not want to play in the triangle guys will follow that based on that alone. He's disgusting.

I think that he is great and refreshing. He was under appreciated as a player and now as a commentator.

Not when he's slandering your team. His comments hurt our free agent chances and helps fuel the potential drama surrounding Melo. We don't need that. Nothing refreshing about about slander and sabotage.

not sabotage. He is saying what you don't want to hear and what every PG thinks.

the triangle will get us a wrotten but no way a connelly.

they better fix this stupidity is what he is saying and he is right. This is not your fathers basketball anymore.

Saying what I don't want to hear? Not my father's basketball?

It's better to fire Phil.... then murder Dolan. Only then can we get a real owner and a real GM that will hire Thibbs. We could sign Thibbs to a 10 year deal because we're going to need that much time to collect our own draft picks enough to finally get all star players to compete. So by 2021 the knicks could finally start making a run in the playoffs.

Refreshing **** that you daddy don't want to hear because he will die of old age before anything good happens with the Knicks.

By then 2021 Melo will be retired and commentatin . We'll hear him talk about how much Kristaps balls shrink in the shower that's why he can't lead the Knicks to the playoffs. It will be so refreshing.

we should extend phil and melo to 10 year triangle contracts. And give dolan lots of cuddly hugs. That should get us out of this mess.

Or .... bring in guts like ainge and stevens who want to win with todays data and style and not force us to drive a studabaker.

+1. Some fans on this board just don't get it. The Knicks roster and the Triangle are the fat ugly 40 year old girl that thinks she is still single because no one gets her. Why the heck would a solid PG or top free agent come here. And let alone any good coach that would become the next puppet?

Some fans want to get it.

they want Brad stevens, thibbs, Danny ainge, poppovich, pat Riley, steve kerr, luke Walton and whoever else to **** them in every hole in their body until surgery is required to get them back to normal.

state the truth. You want everyone that's won in the league to come to the Knicks so they all can empty their loads inside your bodies. That's the only way to satisfy some of you.