To finish 500, they would have to nearly win out at a clip near GS pace = 15 wins over the last 18 is an 833 winning percentage.

Cold water, not happening.

Chicago and Detroit are both at or above 500.

If they played out the rest of the way at 300 ball, they both finish with 37 wins, 45 losses.

Meaning, we'd have to win 38 games and to do that, we'd have to win 12 of our last 18, or a 667 winning percentage.

The season is over.

At their current pace, they finish the season at 33 & 49 - nearly double our win total from last year.

I'll take it.

Surprising, I think most objective people here and analyses before the season had them pegged right about there.

You can't go through the rotten stretch they did and expect to compete.

arkrud wrote:

franco12 wrote:I think for all intents and purposes, the Knicks are mathematically out of it. They already have 38 losses.

To finish 500, they would have to nearly win out at a clip near GS pace = 15 wins over the last 18 is an 833 winning percentage.

Cold water, not happening.

Chicago and Detroit are both at or above 500.

If they played out the rest of the way at 300 ball, they both finish with 37 wins, 45 losses.

Meaning, we'd have to win 38 games and to do that, we'd have to win 12 of our last 18, or a 667 winning percentage.

The season is over.

At their current pace, they finish the season at 33 & 49 - nearly double our win total from last year.

I'll take it.

Surprising, I think most objective people here and analyses before the season had them pegged right about there.

You can't go through the rotten stretch they did and expect to compete.

Exactly... I put them at 33 and I was very optimistic.
If they will win as much its a huge step forward.
Keep in mind we waste no assets and made no moves to damage our future cap money which is amazing by itself.

I would like Dolan to come out and publicly state that the Knicks will never again trade a first round pick. Ever, under any circumstances. We have simply never come out ahead, and while there are hypothetical scenarios you could throw out there, I'd rather this franchise made it a point of never trading a first round pick again.

StarksEwing1 wrote:I respect the optimism eny but the season is over. All i want is for KP and grant to get more playing time heading into next season.

Agreed

We can be a really good team with our front court of Melo/KP/Rolo and adding two players which we all know is a legit PG and SG and putting Afflalo at 6th man.

knickscity wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:If we finish the season strong it won't be for a chance at the playoffs cause that's not happening but it would be big for how free agents look at this team and for them having any thought about joining this team in the off season which is huge for us. We all including myself have been giving Afflalo hellz for his play but he showed us how good we can play with him playing like Melo's 2nd man which he was supposed to be and what he was playing like when we were winning. When he's hitting his 10/15 jumper and getting some boards we can compete and Rolo has really stepped his game up as well.

We can be a really good team with our front court of Melo/KP/Rolo and adding two players which we all know is a legit PG and SG and putting Afflalo at 6th man.

Afflalo is likely gonna opt out for a longer deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it's us giving it to him. I also see the Knicks matching whatever offer Galloway gets. That's a chunk of the cap space right there.

IF they offer AA more money phill needs to leave. Also, unless gallo sign's an early offer sheet then he will not take up any cap space. They can go over on Gallo. The real FA to worry about taking up cap space is Lance Thomas. His early bird rights only helps so much if he gets offered over the league's avg his money then comes of the cap space.

knickscity wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:If we finish the season strong it won't be for a chance at the playoffs cause that's not happening but it would be big for how free agents look at this team and for them having any thought about joining this team in the off season which is huge for us. We all including myself have been giving Afflalo hellz for his play but he showed us how good we can play with him playing like Melo's 2nd man which he was supposed to be and what he was playing like when we were winning. When he's hitting his 10/15 jumper and getting some boards we can compete and Rolo has really stepped his game up as well.

We can be a really good team with our front court of Melo/KP/Rolo and adding two players which we all know is a legit PG and SG and putting Afflalo at 6th man.

Afflalo is likely gonna opt out for a longer deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it's us giving it to him. I also see the Knicks matching whatever offer Galloway gets. That's a chunk of the cap space right there.

IF they offer AA more money phill needs to leave. Also, unless gallo sign's an early offer sheet then he will not take up any cap space. They can go over on Gallo. The real FA to worry about taking up cap space is Lance Thomas. His early bird rights only helps so much if he gets offered over the league's avg his money then comes of the cap space.

Gallo is likely to get an offer sheet very early. Everyone will have cap space, somebody is gonna test where the Knicks stand with him. the Afflalo part is tricky, but yes, I do think the Knicks resign him.

Funny - I don't care if we lose any of our FAs. Lance, Gallo - they're nice players, but their stats are inflated by playing on a bad team. Do any of them get time on GS? That is sort of the mental exercise I do - take a really good team, and say - do these players get any time?

Answer = No.

If they get offers, congratulate them on their new found wealth, and watch them promptly turn into Landry Fields.

franco12 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:

knickscity wrote:

newyorker4ever wrote:If we finish the season strong it won't be for a chance at the playoffs cause that's not happening but it would be big for how free agents look at this team and for them having any thought about joining this team in the off season which is huge for us. We all including myself have been giving Afflalo hellz for his play but he showed us how good we can play with him playing like Melo's 2nd man which he was supposed to be and what he was playing like when we were winning. When he's hitting his 10/15 jumper and getting some boards we can compete and Rolo has really stepped his game up as well.

We can be a really good team with our front court of Melo/KP/Rolo and adding two players which we all know is a legit PG and SG and putting Afflalo at 6th man.

Afflalo is likely gonna opt out for a longer deal. I wouldn't be surprised if it's us giving it to him. I also see the Knicks matching whatever offer Galloway gets. That's a chunk of the cap space right there.

IF they offer AA more money phill needs to leave. Also, unless gallo sign's an early offer sheet then he will not take up any cap space. They can go over on Gallo. The real FA to worry about taking up cap space is Lance Thomas. His early bird rights only helps so much if he gets offered over the league's avg his money then comes of the cap space.

Gallo is likely to get an offer sheet very early. Everyone will have cap space, somebody is gonna test where the Knicks stand with him. the Afflalo part is tricky, but yes, I do think the Knicks resign him.

Funny - I don't care if we lose any of our FAs. Lance, Gallo - they're nice players, but their stats are inflated by playing on a bad team. Do any of them get time on GS? That is sort of the mental exercise I do - take a really good team, and say - do these players get any time?

Answer = No.

If they get offers, congratulate them on their new found wealth, and watch them promptly turn into Landry Fields.

Malcolm wrote:

franco12 wrote:At their current pace, they finish the season at 33 & 49 - nearly double our win total from last year.

I'll take it.

Of course, it's not the "33" . . . but how they get it that's significant.

Losing the first 49 games and ending on a 33 game win streak . . . is different than the reverse.

Exactly going on an inexplicable losing streak to end the season too me is a lot worse than if they had picked it up after the all star break

wargames wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:I respect the optimism eny but the season is over. All i want is for KP and grant to get more playing time heading into next season.

Agreed

Just something to talk about.

If they did win 5 out of 6, the Knicks could be as much as 3 games out. Maybe more if a team slips a little. The Knicks would be playing for something. 12 games left with a possible 3 games out is worth the fight.