So lets say we get our legit point guard and shooting guard to put with Melo, KP and Rolo, do you think Rambis can win with a legit team???

I don't think we can go by what he did in Minnesota cause that team was an absolute mess and every coach they had back then wasn't winning with those teams and he's got a ton of experience since then on the bench of some good teams and learning from great coaches.

SO regarding Rambo, if you give him talent I think he would win with it, just like any other average to good coach in the NBA. Just think about the coaches who run winning teams in the NBA and no one would say that they are all special head coaches. If Rambis had a much better starting Backcourt right now he'd been winning more games.

The Cavs got to the finals with David Blatt and he was replaced by Tyronn Lue. Blatt went 83-40 and was 30-11 this year. Lue has gone 11-5 so far. It's mostly about the talent but the coach can have an impact when you need to get over the top. Rambo has a lot of tests to pass before we can really know his full worth as a coach. I'd love to see him have a winning record as the Head Coach. That would say a lot IMO.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:For me MOST coaches are about the same. You only have a very few Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich level coaches. So what really wins most of the time is TALENT. Yes an inept coach can lose you a few games but a great coach at most is gonna add 8-12 games on top of a great roster and what you need a great coach for is the Playoffs when he faces only good to great teams. In the regular season just about any average coach could win with a great roster.

SO regarding Rambo, if you give him talent I think he would win with it, just like any other average to good coach in the NBA. Just think about the coaches who run winning teams in the NBA and no one would say that they are all special head coaches. If Rambis had a much better starting Backcourt right now he'd been winning more games.

The Cavs got to the finals with David Blatt and he was replaced by Tyronn Lue. Blatt went 83-40 and was 30-11 this year. Lue has gone 11-5 so far. It's mostly about the talent but the coach can have an impact when you need to get over the top. Rambo has a lot of tests to pass before we can really know his full worth as a coach. I'd love to see him have a winning record as the Head Coach. That would say a lot IMO.

of course its about talent man. Even phil and pop needed hall of fame talent in order to have the amount of success they had

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

nixluva wrote:For me MOST coaches are about the same. You only have a very few Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich level coaches. So what really wins most of the time is TALENT. Yes an inept coach can lose you a few games but a great coach at most is gonna add 8-12 games on top of a great roster and what you need a great coach for is the Playoffs when he faces only good to great teams. In the regular season just about any average coach could win with a great roster.

SO regarding Rambo, if you give him talent I think he would win with it, just like any other average to good coach in the NBA. Just think about the coaches who run winning teams in the NBA and no one would say that they are all special head coaches. If Rambis had a much better starting Backcourt right now he'd been winning more games.

The Cavs got to the finals with David Blatt and he was replaced by Tyronn Lue. Blatt went 83-40 and was 30-11 this year. Lue has gone 11-5 so far. It's mostly about the talent but the coach can have an impact when you need to get over the top. Rambo has a lot of tests to pass before we can really know his full worth as a coach. I'd love to see him have a winning record as the Head Coach. That would say a lot IMO.

of course its about talent man. Even phil and pop needed hall of fame talent in order to have the amount of success they had

Right. SO what's your point?

my point was i was agreeing with your post. Why so defensive?

nixluva wrote:For me MOST coaches are about the same. You only have a very few Phil Jackson or Greg Popovich level coaches. So what really wins most of the time is TALENT. Yes an inept coach can lose you a few games but a great coach at most is gonna add 8-12 games on top of a great roster and what you need a great coach for is the Playoffs when he faces only good to great teams. In the regular season just about any average coach could win with a great roster.

SO regarding Rambo, if you give him talent I think he would win with it, just like any other average to good coach in the NBA. Just think about the coaches who run winning teams in the NBA and no one would say that they are all special head coaches. If Rambis had a much better starting Backcourt right now he'd been winning more games.

The Cavs got to the finals with David Blatt and he was replaced by Tyronn Lue. Blatt went 83-40 and was 30-11 this year. Lue has gone 11-5 so far. It's mostly about the talent but the coach can have an impact when you need to get over the top. Rambo has a lot of tests to pass before we can really know his full worth as a coach. I'd love to see him have a winning record as the Head Coach. That would say a lot IMO.

I agree 100% about how it's the talent over the coach that will get you the wins mostly and i add guys like M.Brown and E.Spoelstra as examples of how it's talent over coaching cause Cleveland was great when they had Lebron the first time around when M.Brown was the coach and M.Brown was horrible everywhere he coached without Lebron and the same with Spoelstra when he had the 3-some of Wade, Bosh and Lebron and now the guy still has a lot of talent but they weren't very good last year or this year. I'm actually growing to like Rambis which i never thought i would so i think with a new legit PG and SG he could actually do quite well.

Rambos is a huge question mark for me at the moment but I can't help but hope and will be optimistic.

Chandler wrote:Talent is necessary but not sufficient. There have been many talented teams that have failed. We don't give coaches enough credit. First, a great coach will create talent. They will make a good talent great, or a great talent or a superstar. Second, they are often the difference between winning and losing the big one.

Rambos is a huge question mark for me at the moment but I can't help but hope and will be optimistic.

We consider Thibs a very good coach based on his record, but yet he's still out there with no job. There's no proof that Thibs is a great coach, but we do know he's very good. I have no way of quantifying how much better he actually is than Rambo. Rambo has NEVER had a team anywhere close to as good as the teams Thibs had in Chicago. IMO it's most important right now that Phil improves the roster. That is where the largest improvement comes from IMO.

I think Rambo is pretty capable of developing the young talent we have. He's done a good job with KP this season IMO. It's starting to look like guys are understanding their roles better since he took over. By this I mean that it's not due to Melo playing great that this team has been competitive in the Pacers game and the Magic game. It's easy for a coach to look good when Melo is balling like he was earlier in the season.

If your name doesn't begin with Phil and ends with Jackson, your assistant isn't named Tex Winter, and you don't have Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neill, and Pau Gasol don't run that shyt.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Chandler wrote:Talent is necessary but not sufficient. There have been many talented teams that have failed. We don't give coaches enough credit. First, a great coach will create talent. They will make a good talent great, or a great talent or a superstar. Second, they are often the difference between winning and losing the big one.

Rambos is a huge question mark for me at the moment but I can't help but hope and will be optimistic.

A monkey can couch GS to best record in MBA. Yes talent matters. Coaches only make mediocre teams okay. They don't make bad teams great. Pat Riley, PJ, or any other coach of your choice would not make the Knicks any better with the talent level in last 2 years.

The difference is that Riley was a master at finding unsung talent and having them play out of their minds. Mason, Starks, Whiteside, Tyler Johnson, etc.