WaltLongmire wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Listen...if you're a superstar in Melo, and you just called out your team after the last game, questioned the direction of the entire organization, publicly said you have no relationship with Phil, publicly said you were frustrated and tired of losing...you CANNOT come out the game after on the road when the rest of the team stepped up their game and showed up and have such a bad game. It makes you look really bad as a leader. And his body language looked terrible the whole game--not to mention losing his cool with the tech which forced us into shooting 3's to tie the game. Just an all around bad look.

Where is this notion coming from that Melo is a leader? He never has been since he's been here.
With that said, I wasn't aware he said all of those things before reading your post. After reading it, I can only agree. Very fair look at everything.

He's been better as a "leader" this year. I've seen him talking to players on the court and during the breaks on numerous occasions.

He just had a bad game. Was also frustrated that a much taller Turner was able to gets shots over him, and this caused him to throw the elbow. You also figure that he wasn't happy with some of the non-calls on his drives to the basket.

Its a shame that his production did not match that of his teammates, though. A few extra shots made could have won the game for us.

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Gotta love the NYK fanbase -

KP misses a wide open three at the top of the key with 6 seconds to go and it's a "tough shot" or a "rookie mistake" to rush it.

Melo misses a rushed turn around three with 2 seconds left to tie because of the KP miss and it's "F Melo!"

Pathetic, NYK fanbase. Pathetic.

Nothing to do with the final shot man. You know very well why people are pissed at Melo since he was reinserted in the 4th quarter after we came back and took a substantial lead with him on the bench. You even took part in defending him earlier. No need to play dumb man its unnecessary

I thought you said the Knicks were bad because of Calderon and their backcourt? So is it just Melo's fault specifically tonight? Not Afflalo's at all?

I'm just trying to figure it all out.

I could care less about tonight. As far as i'm concerned the season is over and the more we lose the more likely there will drastic change in the offseason. It's 50/50 IMO. Either Melo waives his NTC and goes or he stays and Phil goes. Dicey situation as I want Phil to stay but I will take the gamble.

Stop trying to score Melo-defender points Crzy. You are too good for that

Well said guns. Season's toast. Time to sit all the vets and play all the youths. Melo should take the rest of the season off. Rest those $124m old man knees.

Rambis will probably do the exact opposite until the end of the season though.

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Listen...if you're a superstar in Melo, and you just called out your team after the last game, questioned the direction of the entire organization, publicly said you have no relationship with Phil, publicly said you were frustrated and tired of losing...you CANNOT come out the game after on the road when the rest of the team stepped up their game and showed up and have such a bad game. It makes you look really bad as a leader. And his body language looked terrible the whole game--not to mention losing his cool with the tech which forced us into shooting 3's to tie the game. Just an all around bad look.

This times infinity. It's bad when the rookie shows more balls than the supposed superstar.

You know who made the playoffs in his rookie season? Melo. Not KP. Oh smack, son.

This makes no sense since Melo is on this team and plays a bigger role than KP. This is the kind of Melo centric bs I'm talking about

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Listen...if you're a superstar in Melo, and you just called out your team after the last game, questioned the direction of the entire organization, publicly said you have no relationship with Phil, publicly said you were frustrated and tired of losing...you CANNOT come out the game after on the road when the rest of the team stepped up their game and showed up and have such a bad game. It makes you look really bad as a leader. And his body language looked terrible the whole game--not to mention losing his cool with the tech which forced us into shooting 3's to tie the game. Just an all around bad look.

This times infinity. It's bad when the rookie shows more balls than the supposed superstar.

You know who made the playoffs in his rookie season? Melo. Not KP. Oh smack, son.

This makes no sense since Melo is on this team and plays a bigger role than KP. This is the kind of Melo centric bs I'm talking about

HofstraBBall wrote:Liked that Afflalo played less minutes. Think he should be the change in the starting line up. Was there a Reason why Dwill didn't play? Can't We give someone else Sasha's minutes. Don't care who.

They forced Afflalo to start lifting in hopes that he will stop hitting the front of the rim on all his shots. hey maybe it will help him defend as well

TeamBall wrote:

WaltLongmire wrote:

TeamBall wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Listen...if you're a superstar in Melo, and you just called out your team after the last game, questioned the direction of the entire organization, publicly said you have no relationship with Phil, publicly said you were frustrated and tired of losing...you CANNOT come out the game after on the road when the rest of the team stepped up their game and showed up and have such a bad game. It makes you look really bad as a leader. And his body language looked terrible the whole game--not to mention losing his cool with the tech which forced us into shooting 3's to tie the game. Just an all around bad look.

Where is this notion coming from that Melo is a leader? He never has been since he's been here.
With that said, I wasn't aware he said all of those things before reading your post. After reading it, I can only agree. Very fair look at everything.

He's been better as a "leader" this year. I've seen him talking to players on the court and during the breaks on numerous occasions.

He just had a bad game. Was also frustrated that a much taller Turner was able to gets shots over him, and this caused him to throw the elbow. You also figure that he wasn't happy with some of the non-calls on his drives to the basket.

Its a shame that his production did not match that of his teammates, though. A few extra shots made could have won the game for us.

He's definitely been better at leading by example this season. I am all for that. I just don't see him as the "rally the troops" leader but he doesn't have to be. As long as he consistently keeps up his play, I have no complaints. Off game like you said but if you're going to make comments like that (assuming those were his actual words), then it is a bad look to have a game like this directly after.

Hahn just said the same things. Calling out the team, playing like crap & losing his cool with the tech but according to Crzy its the fans fault

WaltLongmire wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:I like Melo and defend him often but think even he would agree, this loss was on him. He just missed way too many shots tonight. KP, Calderon, KO and Galloway played well. LT, Imo, should have been out and KO in a bit more at the end of game. KP's shot at end was fine. Don't think anything else was open once Galloway stopped his dribble. Just stinks we can't pull a game like this out.

Sounds like he may have been playing injured.

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/702686421895639040

oh how comforting

Means his leg might be worse than we thought...not something to get angry with him about at this point.

Nope especially if when you knew what the outcome would be before re-signing him for the max

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:Gotta love the NYK fanbase -

KP misses a wide open three at the top of the key with 6 seconds to go and it's a "tough shot" or a "rookie mistake" to rush it.

Melo misses a rushed turn around three with 2 seconds left to tie because of the KP miss and it's "F Melo!"

Pathetic, NYK fanbase. Pathetic.

Nothing to do with the final shot man. You know very well why people are pissed at Melo since he was reinserted in the 4th quarter after we came back and took a substantial lead with him on the bench. You even took part in defending him earlier. No need to play dumb man its unnecessary

I thought you said the Knicks were bad because of Calderon and their backcourt? So is it just Melo's fault specifically tonight? Not Afflalo's at all?

I'm just trying to figure it all out.

I could care less about tonight. As far as i'm concerned the season is over and the more we lose the more likely there will drastic change in the offseason. It's 50/50 IMO. Either Melo waives his NTC and goes or he stays and Phil goes. Dicey situation as I want Phil to stay but I will take the gamble.

Stop trying to score Melo-defender points Crzy. You are too good for that

I could care less about tonight, too. I thought your stance was that the problem was the backcourt?

crzymdups wrote:

gunsnewing wrote:

crzymdups wrote:

ChuckBuck wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Listen...if you're a superstar in Melo, and you just called out your team after the last game, questioned the direction of the entire organization, publicly said you have no relationship with Phil, publicly said you were frustrated and tired of losing...you CANNOT come out the game after on the road when the rest of the team stepped up their game and showed up and have such a bad game. It makes you look really bad as a leader. And his body language looked terrible the whole game--not to mention losing his cool with the tech which forced us into shooting 3's to tie the game. Just an all around bad look.

This times infinity. It's bad when the rookie shows more balls than the supposed superstar.

You know who made the playoffs in his rookie season? Melo. Not KP. Oh smack, son.

This makes no sense since Melo is on this team and plays a bigger role than KP. This is the kind of Melo centric bs I'm talking about

So wait, KP is playing with a better player than Melo did during his rookie season and still can't make the playoffs in a weaker conference? Do I have that right? I'm just trying to get the facts straight on how much Melo sucks.