Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Galloway/Grant (Average age of starting 5 is 26, which is legit young, unlike what we currently sport)

Make the bench stronger with DWill/Thomas/Afflalo/Calderon.

It's worth a try. If one thing you gotta give to Galloway/Grant, they have speed and they give defensive effort. Both will likely be back as Knicks next year, we should consider just giving them the remaining games to learn how to play better successful basketball. I mean it's one thing if we were winning games with Afflalo/Calderon, but considering we aren't, we should considering a longterm re-build in mind.

nyknickzingis wrote:I would like to see a change in starters though. While playoffs look lost, might as well develop some of the younger players chemistry and cohesion. With all due respect to Jose and AA, they likely won't be here in 1-1.5 year, maybe even sooner. Try to play a little quicker with our bigger front court.

Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Galloway/Grant

Make the bench stronger with DWill/Thomas/Afflalo/Calderon.

It's worth a try. If one thing you gotta give to Galloway/Grant, they have speed and they give defensive effort. Both will likely be back as Knicks next year, we should consider just giving them the remaining games to learn how to play better successful basketball. I mean it's one thing if we were winning games with Afflalo/Calderon, but considering we aren't, we should considering a longterm re-build in mind.

Totally agree with this. I've been saying over and over that our current starting 5 is too slow and unathletic with Jose, AA, Rolo and KP out there. That's part of the reason we've been falling behind early so much recently. I think a change in the starting 5 will be forthcoming.

SocraticBallin22 wrote:Rambis just said he liked what he saw from Jerian in this game and the team desperately needs his athleticism and penetration out of the backcourt. I completely agree with this. Look for Jerian to start playing more minutes going forward. This is a positive sign.

yellowboy90 wrote:For a Guy who loves to harp on and on about ball movement Phil did a poor job at hand picking guys that actually moved the ball.

Seraphail
Affalno
Lospaz
O'quit
D.Will-not

nyknickzingis wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:I would like to see a change in starters though. While playoffs look lost, might as well develop some of the younger players chemistry and cohesion. With all due respect to Jose and AA, they likely won't be here in 1-1.5 year, maybe even sooner. Try to play a little quicker with our bigger front court.

Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Galloway/Grant

Make the bench stronger with DWill/Thomas/Afflalo/Calderon.

It's worth a try. If one thing you gotta give to Galloway/Grant, they have speed and they give defensive effort. Both will likely be back as Knicks next year, we should consider just giving them the remaining games to learn how to play better successful basketball. I mean it's one thing if we were winning games with Afflalo/Calderon, but considering we aren't, we should considering a longterm re-build in mind.

Totally agree with this. I've been saying over and over that our current starting 5 is too slow and unathletic with Jose, AA, Rolo and KP out there. That's part of the reason we've been falling behind early so much recently. I think a change in the starting 5 will be forthcoming.

Starters actually played well at start tonight. It was the 2nd half though. Yuck.
In general the Calderon/Afflalo/Melo/Porzingis/Lopez group got it chance. We've seen it.
Time to make some changes. The Knicks need some athleticism, speed, some guys that are not afraid to play man defense.

Just have to accept playoffs are shot, and be willing to finish the season with even 30 wins. If that's what it is, so be it. I'm willing to accept we don't win more than 6-8 more games, so long as we give the starting spots to Galloway/Grant and let them gain experience with KP, RoLO and Melo in the Triangle. Jose/Afflalo can come in off the bench, if they play really well they can close. If not we just stick with our starting 5 that helps the Knicks in the future.

I don't think Galloway or Grant will be Knicks starters on great teams, but giving them playing time now allows them to get major reps and confidence to grow as players. It helped Galloway a ton last year when he was allowed that PT. It'll help Grant as well. Just give them the time.

Great points. At some point this season, you have to hand the reigns over to Jerian to see what we have in him before next season and allow him to devolop. He is part of our future, and--honestly--he's the only guard on our team that is athletic enough to dribble by his defender and get to the rim. He just needs confidence and minutes. Gallo is a solid rotation combo guard off the bench. I would even not mind seeing what Jimmer can do when given starter minutes at the point. From what I've seen, his ball handling has gotten better along with his court vision and he's always a threat on the court. I look forward to these changes.

StarksEwing1 wrote:

yellowboy90 wrote:For a Guy who loves to harp on and on about ball movement Phil did a poor job at hand picking guys that actually moved the ball.

Seraphail
Affalno
Lospaz
O'quit
D.Will-not

lets be honest so far phil hasnt shown he can be successful as a executive. His one shining moment is drafting KP. Either way i expect him to bolt to LA eventually

That's why I hope Shelly wants her man this summer. Maybe the knicks could receive some compensation for letting him go. The only problem I could see is Dolan/Thomas taking over again.

nyknickzingis wrote:

SocraticBallin22 wrote:

nyknickzingis wrote:I would like to see a change in starters though. While playoffs look lost, might as well develop some of the younger players chemistry and cohesion. With all due respect to Jose and AA, they likely won't be here in 1-1.5 year, maybe even sooner. Try to play a little quicker with our bigger front court.

Lopez/Porzingis/Melo/Galloway/Grant

Make the bench stronger with DWill/Thomas/Afflalo/Calderon.

It's worth a try. If one thing you gotta give to Galloway/Grant, they have speed and they give defensive effort. Both will likely be back as Knicks next year, we should consider just giving them the remaining games to learn how to play better successful basketball. I mean it's one thing if we were winning games with Afflalo/Calderon, but considering we aren't, we should considering a longterm re-build in mind.

Totally agree with this. I've been saying over and over that our current starting 5 is too slow and unathletic with Jose, AA, Rolo and KP out there. That's part of the reason we've been falling behind early so much recently. I think a change in the starting 5 will be forthcoming.

Starters actually played well at start tonight. It was the 2nd half though. Yuck.
In general the Calderon/Afflalo/Melo/Porzingis/Lopez group got it chance. We've seen it.
Time to make some changes. The Knicks need some athleticism, speed, some guys that are not afraid to play man defense.

Just have to accept playoffs are shot, and be willing to finish the season with even 30 wins. If that's what it is, so be it. I'm willing to accept we don't win more than 6-8 more games, so long as we give the starting spots to Galloway/Grant and let them gain experience with KP, RoLO and Melo in the Triangle. Jose/Afflalo can come in off the bench, if they play really well they can close. If not we just stick with our starting 5 that helps the Knicks in the future.

I don't think Galloway or Grant will be Knicks starters on great teams, but giving them playing time now allows them to get major reps and confidence to grow as players. It helped Galloway a ton last year when he was allowed that PT. It'll help Grant as well. Just give them the time.

HofstraBBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

StarksEwing1 wrote:The only good news about losing is that it puts more pressure on melo to accept a trade and we can build the right way around kp

Ummm NO, The right way? Excellent meaningless descriptive. So no Melo and lots more of Grant like hyped up college players that flop in the pros. Then add
other teams throw aways like DWill, Rolos, KO, Seraphins who people think will all of a sudden change. Do you watch basketball? You do realize how many guys from the draft actually make it? Get a clue. We need more Melo level guys not less. You dreamer fans make me laugh. Talk up all possible pick ups like they are the next MJ's only to disappear when they show their true talent level. Please tell me the superstar we gave up to Denver via our picks that you feel so bad we lost. And please tell me which draft pick we have had in last 16 years that has turned things around? The right way is to have at least three high level players and hope other good players want to play with them to win a chip. The draft is just a lottery. And BTW, did you watch tonight's game? And you think the problem is Melo? Not the scrap that surrounds him? Come on. What a joke.

do i watch basketball? Yes, in fact i have played every day since i was 4 so i think i know a little about it

So your 8? Lol. Listen, I am sure you know basketball. I just don't think the answer is starting from scratch. I just don't want another 5 to 10 years of rebuilding, which hasno guarantee. We have two good players. We should attract one more high level player and sure add some young talent. But talent that has been proven in the pros. Just not big on rookies. They need lots of time to grow. And not always do. You need a crystal ball to succeed in the draft. And again, Denver did what you claim you want to do when they traded Melo. And how did that work? They just started all over again.