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The Greater Implications of This Trade Deadline.
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NardDogNation
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2/18/2016  6:34 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/18/2016  6:45 PM
One trade that caught my attention and tipped the hand of another team's thinkings was the Lance Stephenson for Jeff Green and a pick deal.

(And for what it's worth)Yes, it was a stupid decision which I've come to expect from Doc Rivers. You give up a first rounder for a 2 month rental on a player that was underachieving the entire season and became a lockerroom cancer due to his poor play? And it isn't even like there was some kind of financial benefit embedded in the deal for the Clippers because Lance Stephenson's contract expires this offseason as well. As puzzling as the deal was, however, two conclusions can be drawn:

The first conclusion is that Doc Rivers, without question, is a ****ing dope who we should look to exploit in the not too distant future.

The second conclusion is that Doc Rivers doesn't give a damn about the future well-being of the Clippers and only cares about what makes the team marginally better in the present. I think this speaks volumes to the prospect of us making the long-anticipated, much discussed Carmelo Anthony for Blake Griffin swap. We'd have to iron out some finer details of the deal but it is quite evident that it is viable, if and when Melo agrees to waive his NTC. The age difference clearly would not be much of a concern for Doc who, for whatever reason, thinks he has the makings of a real champion with or without Blake. After all, why else would he give up something as coveted as a first round pick when Chris Paul will be 34 years old?

Heading into this offseason, we need to get Melo into an office to hash this stuff out with all parties. If there is a plan, I'm sure we could really could change his mind and get the ball rolling for this to happen. And given the climate of the league and needs of respective teams, I feel like we could get teams with connections to Doc Rivers/the Celtics involved to help faciliate the deal. The Celtics, Doc's former employers, naturally have interest in Blake; the Suns, run by Ryan McDonaugh, best friend of Danny Ainge and former Celtic front office guy, are rebuilding and are willing to be sellers (of veterans) on the market, which make them perfect trade partners to fscilitate something that figures to be big. They'd be inclined to deal if for no other reason than to help one another out (see the KG deal to BOS thanks to the McHale-Ainge connection).

I'm thinking a deal that sends: (1)Blake to the Celtics, (2)Financial relief and a first round pick (the one obtained in the Brandon Wright deal back) to the Suns, (3) Melo and PJ Tucker to the Clippers and (4) Brooklyn's pick, James Young and Terry Rozier to the Knicks, could really work, even if that pick turns out to be top 3.

I'm pretty down on Jeff Green but I think he'd be a fantastic fit next to Melo as a hybrid forward. Green's a bit of a jack-of-all trades player, which allows him to compliment the things Melo doesn't do on the floor. He's also a capable defender at either forward spot, which allows Doc to hide Melo defensively especially with DeAndre Jordan on the team. And since both players can hit the 3, you'd have maximal spacing around DeAndre and can continue to play more uptempo, which has made him more of an effective player and contributed to the Clippers success without Blake. Add PJ Tucker to the mix, who offers many of the same advantages that Green does with Melo and I think they'd have a pretty compelling team. Let's discuss....

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NardDogNation
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2/18/2016  6:58 PM
And best of all, this deal can still be made during the season AFTER all teams are eliminated from the playoffs but BEFORE the lottery when Boston would know if it has the no.1 pick on its hands.
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2/18/2016  7:08 PM
Always been a fan of Jeff Green, would be a good player to have off the bench. Lopez and Green in the same lineup at times would do good things, give this team an edge IMO.
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2/18/2016  7:44 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Always been a fan of Jeff Green, would be a good player to have off the bench. Lopez and Green in the same lineup at times would do good things, give this team an edge IMO.

I had a thread about acquiring this dude to play SG, not PF

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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2/18/2016  9:51 PM
my conclusion from the trade deadline was that Detroit is going to be a problem in the near future
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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2/18/2016  9:56 PM
Where did you see a draft pick in the deal? I saw just Green for Stephenson straight up which is a steal for Clippers
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Knicks1969
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2/18/2016  10:00 PM
callmened wrote:my conclusion from the trade deadline was that Detroit is going to be a problem in the near future

We will see. The East has improved tremendously

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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2/18/2016  10:01 PM
their 7 core players are under age 25. youth + talent at each position + good coach = problems
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
Knicks1969
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2/18/2016  10:03 PM
callmened wrote:their 7 core players are under age 25. youth + talent at each position + good coach = problems

That city does deserve a good team. Vangundy has done a great job

Thank God Fisher is no longer our coach, now let's get Calderon out of here:)
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2/18/2016  10:04 PM
BigRedDog wrote:Where did you see a draft pick in the deal? I saw just Green for Stephenson straight up which is a steal for Clippers

Clips sent their 2019 first round pick a long with Lance.
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2/18/2016  10:07 PM
BigRedDog wrote:Where did you see a draft pick in the deal? I saw just Green for Stephenson straight up which is a steal for Clippers

Clippers threw in a first rounder for absolutely no reason. I'm too lazy to post the tweet for reference. That basically summed up the day. If you weren't going to trade a pick you weren't going to make a trade.

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2/18/2016  10:10 PM
EnySpree wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Where did you see a draft pick in the deal? I saw just Green for Stephenson straight up which is a steal for Clippers

Clippers threw in a first rounder for absolutely no reason. I'm too lazy to post the tweet for reference. That basically summed up the day. If you weren't going to trade a pick you weren't going to make a trade.

Yeah. Lance's deal had some value because it clears 8 mil off the cap at the end of the year if he doesn't pan out.
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2/18/2016  10:58 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Where did you see a draft pick in the deal? I saw just Green for Stephenson straight up which is a steal for Clippers

Clippers threw in a first rounder for absolutely no reason. I'm too lazy to post the tweet for reference. That basically summed up the day. If you weren't going to trade a pick you weren't going to make a trade.

Yeah. Lance's deal had some value because it clears 8 mil off the cap at the end of the year if he doesn't pan out.

Same with Jeff Green....

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2/18/2016  10:59 PM
NardDogNation wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
BigRedDog wrote:Where did you see a draft pick in the deal? I saw just Green for Stephenson straight up which is a steal for Clippers

Clippers threw in a first rounder for absolutely no reason. I'm too lazy to post the tweet for reference. That basically summed up the day. If you weren't going to trade a pick you weren't going to make a trade.

Yeah. Lance's deal had some value because it clears 8 mil off the cap at the end of the year if he doesn't pan out.

Same with Jeff Green....


So sending out that pick was DUMB.
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2/19/2016  3:41 AM
Im confused.....is Doc Rivers the Clippers GM?
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2/19/2016  7:26 AM
blkexec wrote:Im confused.....is Doc Rivers the Clippers GM?

Yes coach ang GM like popovich and SVG

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2/19/2016  11:15 AM
He loves Jeff Green.
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2/19/2016  11:30 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/19/2016  11:30 AM
NardDogNation wrote:And best of all, this deal can still be made during the season AFTER all teams are eliminated from the playoffs but BEFORE the lottery when Boston would know if it has the no.1 pick on its hands.

the fact that you would prefer one of the most under achieving half a star players (blake) in the NBA, is retared. Also, you want to bring in a player who's play marginal defense (at best) at a position we have already solidify.

You want to trade the one player that has the most impact on you franchise (kp) player, for a player who knock out his friend/ equipment guy, like he's the kind of player thats a great role model.

Dude think before you ramble on about suspect trades because of their talent

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2/19/2016  5:10 PM
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NardDogNation wrote:And best of all, this deal can still be made during the season AFTER all teams are eliminated from the playoffs but BEFORE the lottery when Boston would know if it has the no.1 pick on its hands.

the fact that you would prefer one of the most under achieving half a star players (blake) in the NBA, is retared. Also, you want to bring in a player who's play marginal defense (at best) at a position we have already solidify.

You want to trade the one player that has the most impact on you franchise (kp) player, for a player who knock out his friend/ equipment guy, like he's the kind of player thats a great role model.

Dude think before you ramble on about suspect trades because of their talent

Find where I said that we should get Blake Griffin. I'll wait...

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2/19/2016  11:00 PM
Honestly Knicks got to hope Melo trades that NTC this summer (so he can get his 8 mil trade kicker) and they got to figure out a trade that gets them picks. I am not even on some "build around KP" nonsense. Its more of a they need more talent than Cap Space is going to fill alone.
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The Greater Implications of This Trade Deadline.

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