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EnySpree
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2/17/2016  8:16 PM
Dolan isn't selling the team so save it
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2/17/2016  8:18 PM
Also Melo isn't lifting his no trade clause
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2/17/2016  8:19 PM
EnySpree wrote:Dolan isn't selling the team so save it
dolan selling the team
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2/17/2016  8:29 PM
Baby steps. An upgrade to the backcourt without impacting the future. Getting into this draft (either round), a smart free agent signing or two and a competent coach (could even be Rambis).
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2/17/2016  8:35 PM
I really want somehow someway to find a way to get a first round pick tomorrow although i know that will never happen. The bargs trade is gonna bother me for a while especially if it ends up as a lottery pick
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2/17/2016  8:43 PM
i would LOVE for dolan to sell the team...so since this thats not happening, id settle for Melo lifting his no trade clause. he stagnates any meaningful progression of this team
Knicks should be improved: win about 40 games and maybe sneak into the playoffs. Melo, Rose and even Noah will have some nice moments however this team should be about PORZINGUS. the sooner they make him the primary player, the better
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2/17/2016  9:15 PM
callmened wrote:i would LOVE for dolan to sell the team...so since this thats not happening, id settle for Melo lifting his no trade clause. he stagnates any meaningful progression of this team
The op took those two options off the table.
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2/17/2016  9:18 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
callmened wrote:i would LOVE for dolan to sell the team...so since this thats not happening, id settle for Melo lifting his no trade clause. he stagnates any meaningful progression of this team
The op took those two options off the table.
those are pretty big options to take off the table
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2/17/2016  9:20 PM
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
callmened wrote:i would LOVE for dolan to sell the team...so since this thats not happening, id settle for Melo lifting his no trade clause. he stagnates any meaningful progression of this team
The op took those two options off the table.
those are pretty big options to take off the table
It makes the thread realistic in my opinion. Not my thread I just went with what he asked.
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2/17/2016  9:22 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
StarksEwing1 wrote:
CrushAlot wrote:
callmened wrote:i would LOVE for dolan to sell the team...so since this thats not happening, id settle for Melo lifting his no trade clause. he stagnates any meaningful progression of this team
The op took those two options off the table.
those are pretty big options to take off the table
It makes the thread realistic in my opinion. Not my thread I just went with what he asked.
i guess to make it more positive which is fine
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2/17/2016  9:22 PM
KP6'S growth as a complete player
two way players around KP6
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dacash wrote:KP6'S growth as a complete player
two way players around KP6
agreed. Drafting KP has made me feel hopeful for the first time in years. I feel he already is our best complete player
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2/17/2016  9:37 PM
No miracles. To either get or develop another talent up front. I like melo rolo and kp. We need one other really dynamic talent but not necessarily superstar. Would be ecstatic w KD, and pretty damn happy w Giannis (which will need some work to get).

We also need more talent in back court. I think grant can develop but not sure if we want team success to rely on that actually happening. I like Aa but we need a more complete 2. Someone who does all the little things and who most importantly makes really good and quick decisions with the basketball. Oddly enough I can see Westbrook playing a 2 for us better than a 1. Not sure why but he seems like the anti-triangle as a 1. He too would be a huge win and unlikely. I don't have that plan B, maybe someone from the Blazers. They always seem to have talent there.

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2/17/2016  9:44 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/17/2016  9:47 PM
More things that won't happen, but it would make me happy to hire Thibs and sign Mike Conley to a reasonable deal.


Things that could happen that would make me happy -

1) Hire Luke Walton and he brings in the Triangle, but with some updates and tweaks to it

2) Keep Melo

3) Let Afflalo opt out and go, buyout or stretch Calderon, trade KOQ to create more cap room - with a $92M cap that should give us about $33M in cap room. Cap could be as high as $95M which would give us $36M

4) Sign Nic Batum to a deal starting at $17M per

5) Sign Brandon Jennings to a one and one deal for ~$12-15M - give him an opt out after one year. You're overpaying a little, but when he proves he's healthy he can opt out for a new deal here or he can leave and we can chase Westbrook in 2017

6) Bring over Hernangomez for back up center

7) Re-sign Galloway and Lance and Dwill to reasonable deals.

8) Acquire another defensive PF or C.

PG - Jennings / Grant
SG - Batum / Galloway
SF - Melo / Lance Thomas
PF - KP / DWill
C - Rolo / Hernangomez / defensive big


edit: forgot to add, for this season I'd really like to bring in Tony Wroten and take a look, for the love of Mike.

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2/17/2016  10:06 PM
In other words everyone here would rather wait till the off season to spend cap.

Also you would like to slide Commissioner Silver a $20 so he can let the Knicks get a lottery pick.

so everything now is just bull**** cuz you all would rather wait 3 years for KP to develop.

Fuck all you guys.... every last one.... in the butt

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2/17/2016  10:10 PM
EnySpree wrote:In other words everyone here would rather wait till the off season to spend cap.

Also you would like to slide Commissioner Silver a $20 so he can let the Knicks get a lottery pick.

so everything now is just bull**** cuz you all would rather wait 3 years for KP to develop.

Fuck all you guys.... every last one.... in the butt

What do you want to do? Spend the cap space now? That's not how it works. We have zero trade chips.

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crzymdups wrote:
EnySpree wrote:In other words everyone here would rather wait till the off season to spend cap.

Also you would like to slide Commissioner Silver a $20 so he can let the Knicks get a lottery pick.

so everything now is just bull**** cuz you all would rather wait 3 years for KP to develop.

Fuck all you guys.... every last one.... in the butt

What do you want to do? Spend the cap space now? That's not how it works. We have zero trade chips.

You can't spend cap now.

Right now I lost all hope of making a trade cuz of the idiots running franchises out there. A guy like Courtney Lee has more trade value than our players. Garbage....

What would make me happy? Getting a point guard. I have a list of guys I want....but I would gladly take Tony Wroten for the remainder of the year. He's the only player available that actually wants to be here. I guess we have to wait and see if other guys become available via buyouts...but Tony wroten would make me happy

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2/17/2016  10:17 PM
EnySpree wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
EnySpree wrote:In other words everyone here would rather wait till the off season to spend cap.

Also you would like to slide Commissioner Silver a $20 so he can let the Knicks get a lottery pick.

so everything now is just bull**** cuz you all would rather wait 3 years for KP to develop.

Fuck all you guys.... every last one.... in the butt

What do you want to do? Spend the cap space now? That's not how it works. We have zero trade chips.

You can't spend cap now.

Right now I lost all hope of making a trade cuz of the idiots running franchises out there. A guy like Courtney Lee has more trade value than our players. Garbage....

What would make me happy? Getting a point guard. I have a list of guys I want....but I would gladly take Tony Wroten for the remainder of the year. He's the only player available that actually wants to be here. I guess we have to wait and see if other guys become available via buyouts...but Tony wroten would make me happy

Wroten was on my list, too

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2/17/2016  10:23 PM
crzymdups wrote:
EnySpree wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
EnySpree wrote:In other words everyone here would rather wait till the off season to spend cap.

Also you would like to slide Commissioner Silver a $20 so he can let the Knicks get a lottery pick.

so everything now is just bull**** cuz you all would rather wait 3 years for KP to develop.

Fuck all you guys.... every last one.... in the butt

What do you want to do? Spend the cap space now? That's not how it works. We have zero trade chips.

You can't spend cap now.

Right now I lost all hope of making a trade cuz of the idiots running franchises out there. A guy like Courtney Lee has more trade value than our players. Garbage....

What would make me happy? Getting a point guard. I have a list of guys I want....but I would gladly take Tony Wroten for the remainder of the year. He's the only player available that actually wants to be here. I guess we have to wait and see if other guys become available via buyouts...but Tony wroten would make me happy

Wroten was on my list, too


Would be fine and excited to have Wroten.
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EnySpree wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
EnySpree wrote:In other words everyone here would rather wait till the off season to spend cap.

Also you would like to slide Commissioner Silver a $20 so he can let the Knicks get a lottery pick.

so everything now is just bull**** cuz you all would rather wait 3 years for KP to develop.

Fuck all you guys.... every last one.... in the butt

What do you want to do? Spend the cap space now? That's not how it works. We have zero trade chips.

You can't spend cap now.

Right now I lost all hope of making a trade cuz of the idiots running franchises out there. A guy like Courtney Lee has more trade value than our players. Garbage....

What would make me happy? Getting a point guard. I have a list of guys I want....but I would gladly take Tony Wroten for the remainder of the year. He's the only player available that actually wants to be here. I guess we have to wait and see if other guys become available via buyouts...but Tony wroten would make me happy

i still cant believe you are blaming other franchises for our inability to make trades.
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